User talk:Shirahadasha/Archive Jul 2007

"God" article suggestion
I'm not biased for or against religion or faith; I was merely trying to help Wikipedia be more informative.

...I did read the NPOV page. 61.68.143.181 04:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Criticism of various movements of Judaism
Hi. Why is it that there exists criticism included (or trying to be included) in each and every article on the various movement of Judaism except for Orthodox Judaism? Could this be an indicator that Orthodox Judaism is the original and with each offshoot comes the associated criticism from the right? I appreciate that each individual can only perceive the world from his own standpoint, so perhaps I perceive what I perceive as a result of my Orthodoxism, but what do you think? DRosenbach (Talk 12:27, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm specifically interested in the forum here at Wikipedia, because while it may be quite difficult and require a lot of determination to publish a text on anti-religious rhetoric, it is quite easy to post a few sentences into an article or on a talk page. With the extremely polarized character of the Wikipedia fan base, I'm just saying that I find it a sort of support for Orthodoxy when there is no retaliatory remarks on the Orthodox page. DRosenbach (Talk

Hi. In reviewing Conservative Judaism's talk page, I found a similar argument to one that I began making presented by Nkras, who after attempting to learn more about, arrived at the conclusion that he had been banned from futher editing. I can't help but wonder if the catalyst to this was his being in opposition to the consensus and thus making many people angry at him. As I hope this is an inaccurate depiction of past events, would you be at liberty to explain why he was banned. As I had been engaged in similar exploits, am I or was I ever in danger of being banned? I mean, if there is a legitimate argument being mounted, even if one side is incorrect based on forum policy, etc., is that really grounds for a complete and irrevocable ban on editing? DRosenbach (Talk 12:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

G_d and Intelligent design
I thought further about your comments to me and your reversion of my reversion. Now I remember why I reverted it. Technically, if you read Intelligent Design and the Discovery Institute, they go to great lengths to not identify the designer. Yes, Kitzmiller, the Wedge Document, etc. indicate otherwise (and I'm a proponent that it indicates otherwise), but in the context of this article, it is not an argument for the existence of G_d because of two points. From the POV of thinking that ID proves nothing (my POV), then it shouldn't be in the article. If you actually buy into Intelligent Design, then technically you're buying into the whole argument that it does not identify the designer, therefore, it is not an argument for the existence of G_d. Thus, I would say that it does not belong in the article, because it fails to be a good argument if you support or do not support Intelligent Design. I am back to defending my revert. Orangemarlin 19:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Requests for mediation/Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty)
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Requests for mediation/Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty), and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible. IZAK 17:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Prostration
Thanks for your edifying contributions to both the main article and Talk page of Prostration. Thoughtful, scholarly, broad-ranging and well articulated. Kudos! LarryR 12:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I am wondering if you might be interested in starting an article titled Prostration in Judaism or similar giving what you've collected about the history of the custom and its surviving practice. It sounds like there's a lot of history and other detail here that might possibly better be in a separate article than the Amidah article. Thanks for all your research. Best, --Shirahadasha 16:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that this is a great idea... but I don't have consistent access to a computer or the internet... I can give you information, sources, references, etc.. if you or someone else could organize the article. Thanks a lot. Omedyashar 16:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation
This message delivered: 08:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC).

Ritual hand washing in Judaism
Thanks for taking this on. It was clear that the person re-writing it was using extremely outdated sources, and was unfamiliar with actual modern day practice. Jayjg (talk) 23:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Please restore my edits about contemporary practice regarding tvila, or let me know when you are through so that I can put them back in. (BTW mayim acharoinim is not 'just a custom'.)--Redaktor 08:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

God Talk
It was a valid and relevant question. It happened to have an obvious answer, but it was still valid and relevant to ask, discuss and answer. --Serge 23:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Kabbalah article edit?
The Kabbalah article, which is quite long, has sections on Hermetic Kabbalah, Christian Kabbalah, and Kabbalah in the Orthodox Church. I think that the two that do not have their own articles should be move to their own pages (Christian Kabbalah, and Orthodox Church Kabbalah), and the Hermetic (which has its own article) removed. I tried to move the Christian Kabbalah section, but because of my low level computer skills and lack of understanding of how Wikipedia works, wound up moving the entire article, so I had to revert it. Since you have posted to the WP Kabbalah Group page, I thought you might be willing to go to the trouble of explaining. Kwork 14:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Kabbalistic angelic hierarchy
As per your suggestion, I did create the article. See it at Kabbalistic angelic hierarchy and feel free to improve it in any way you see fit. Thanks for the (unofficial) mentoring. Jason Harvestdancer | Talk to me 16:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Advertisements
Hi. Three of my userboxes have recently been deleted because two individuals felt that they represented impermissible advertising. I agreed that they were too overt, and removed external links. However, I contest that any reference to brands or companies is advertising. They feel differently, however. I want to restore the three userboxes, in lieu of the ubiquitous prevelance of userboxes containing brand name and company references (please see the bottom of my user page for coverage of this alteration. Thank you in advance for your consideration of my issue.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 13:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Tribes of Israel articles
I am seeking a way to remove the large amount of POV and weasel-word type additions that have been made to the articles on the Iraelite tribes (see my comments here and here as well as my changes to some of the articles themselves. It seems like it would be a lot of work, and the easiest thing to do at this point might be to revert the articles to the version prior to FDuffy's changes - because a lot of information was deleted in each case - and preserve his additions in a section specifically designated for higher/textual criticism.  Any thoughts on this? Thanks.  ◄   Zahakiel   ►  07:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

User:Catanich
Possible? He admits it here. Thanks for the heads-up! --Butseriouslyfolks 03:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

This foolish user has wrecked his reputation. If you Google for "Catanich Internet Marketing," the name of his business, a very ugly result shows up from his Wikipedia user page. It would be a good deed to delete or rename his user page (with permission, of course). Your block will prevent the user from damaging Wikipedia further, but we should not vindictively destroy his business. Do you understand the problem here? For the record, I've never communicated with this person. I don't know him at all. Jehochman Talk 04:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * As a new administrator, I have to point out to you per Blocking policy, indefinite blocks of IP addresses such as are out of the question for all but open proxies. If you had bothered running an RDNS look up on that address, it resolves to pool-71-252-185-90.dllstx.fios.verizon.net. "pool" addresses are dynamically allocated and I find your block very vindictive considering he complained on your RFA. Next time please refer such cases to the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents before acting unilaterally. --   Netsnipe  âº  06:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think this administrator has been acting in good faith and this is just a simple mistake, not vindictiveness. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%

3AConflict_of_interest%2FNoticeboard&diff=133788141&oldid=133745372 this thread] where Shirahadasha is offering to unblock Catanich. Jehochman Talk 14:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

As the target of this incident, user:Shirahadasha did not make a simple mistake nor was her actions vindictive. They were using the Wikipedia as a weapon. This incident was not a minor incident, it cost me my job.

You see, the people thought Wikipedia had integrity and has checks and balances in place. Therefore, when Wikipedia states that there are “Copyright Violations”, they think “violations of the Copyright Laws”. And then... Wikipedia is indexed by Google.

But she is not responsible for what has happened, User:Butseriouslyfolks is. He made the accusations without verifying the facts. Then, they did not allow me to defend myself. And finally, he has continued to create statements that were unfounded and baseless. It was his statements that influenced her actions and I hold him responsible.

Mistakes happen, I made one, Shirahadasha made one, but User:Butseriouslyfolks was completely out of line. User:Butseriouslyfolks’ original actions were overaggressive and vindictive but his additional actions were unnecessary, untruthful and the weapon.

71.252.158.207 22:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Hi...would you be so kind as to drop me a line at shatnes551@yahoo.com.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 03:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)