User talk:Shirtquire

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NFU Mutual page
Hi @Shirtquire, you are regularly repeating and re-adding spurious and uncited claims on this page and putting information in incorrect sections. I'm trying to improve the page and have looked at all the citations you've included but its clear that many of them are reported incorrectly by yourself with opinion once you go to the link. Your edits are counter-productive, and if you do not stop I'll have to report you for vandalism. Do you have a conflict of interest with the business? BaltiPie (talk) 11:20, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


 * they are all properly citated my angel - please say hi to Nick - and so sorry to see you lost 1 billion pounds  Shirtquire (talk) 18:15, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Shirtquire, I haven't lost anything. Cited information reported correctly is good! I take issue with inaccuracies or skewed presentation, either way. BaltiPie (talk) 13:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Edits at The Shire
Hi, and welcome to WikiProject Middle-earth. Sorry about the edit-conflict, and thanks for waiting. I'm removing all "new" edits to the lead section, as the lead is just a summary of the main text, which is already fully-cited. Putting refs in the lead is confusing and misleading, as it makes the rest of the lead look either uncited (not true, it's all cited in the article body) or cited to your new sources (not true either).

If you are sure you have a reliably-cited fact that is needed in the article (i.e., not a piece of trivia; not a publicity mention by someone who has a bit of land/a mill/a tower/etc that they hope a Tolkien association might be useful for; not a vague mention in the Birmingham Mail; and definitely about The Shire as opposed to Middle-earth more generally, then of course feel free to add it. The mentions of The Wrekin do not substantiate any connection with The Shire, and are so vague (Tolkien was stationed near there in the war...) as to be basically unusable, sorry.

I'm just going through the other refs you put in the lead to see if we can use them for something definite in the article body. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Done that; the Countryfile ref is now in the "Childhood" section; the other refs I looked at did not mention The Shire at all, so we obviously can't use them in the article. I do hope this is clear. Also, to repeat, we do not add refs to the lead of established articles, there is no need and as I explained above, it's actively misleading. All the best, and hope this is not too disappointing, Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:59, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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