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Shivashambo (talk) 04:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Sir, The page Sthanika brahmins has be meddled with some people again and again without any reason and the citation and ref removed. please check it out. Even though page has the highest references than other pages like shivalli, haveeka, koota, namboodri, brahmins; those pages are not being questioned.This shows conflict of interest. (Shivashambo (talk) 04:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC))


 * I don't see any indication of a conflict of interest. What removed here was unsourced. I am also somewhat skeptical regarding the source added here. It's more than 70 years old; ethnographic works published during the British Raj are often of dubious quality. Surely there are newer works on the Sthanika Brahmins; those should be given preference over ones that very likely are outdated and no longer represent the current state of scholarship. In fact,  removed various sources of dubious reliability, including this one, some time ago. If you disagree with Sitush's assessment, you should probably discuss the issue on the article's talk page. Huon (talk) 12:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Indeed, Huon. I have added a comment to the article talk page that refers to this type of poor sourcing. - Sitush (talk) 13:06, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

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sir agreed that surnames of sthanikas are unsourced. But there are sthanika tulu brahmins families even to this day living with those surnames. why was that removed. Everything cant be found in textbooks for references in ethnic contexts and anthropology.For eg Tomorrow if i write one text in the modern era of 21st cent A.D. on sthanikas should that be belived as ref source. Shivashambo (talk) 08:09, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds like this would be something that should be discussed on Talk:Sthanika Brahmins. For information about identifying reliable sources, please read WP:IRS. Sam Sailor 10:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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sir if texts written during british raj is dubious how do you believe in recent texts of history on ethnography and anthropology where it derives heavily on those texts Shivashambo (talk) 08:14, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Meta question, see above. Sam Sailor 10:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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please go through K.g vasantha madhava and B.A. Saletore books on sthanikas and see the epigraphs for surnames and differents names of sthanikas as sthanadhyaksha etc. Shivashambo (talk) 08:16, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I am afraid that request falls outside the use of the help me template. A better way forward is to discuss with other editors on the relevant article talk pages. Sam Sailor 10:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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Sir what about the deletion in tuluva brahmins. Not all brahmins of tulunadu are called tulu brahmins and not everybody came in 380 B.C.Only sthanika tulu brahmins are original inhabitants of tulunadu and remaining brahmins are immigrants and exodus from north india setteling in tulu nadu.Certain facts has to be deduced logically in history and anthropology Shivashambo (talk) 08:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Again, discuss this on the article talk page Talk:Tuluva Brahmins, please. Sam Sailor 10:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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shivalli Brahmins are famous for Udupi hotels (vegetarian restaurants) known for serving typical south Indian dishes like idli, vada, dosa, shira and upma etc.[2] Shivalli Brahmins have a unique style of cooking, serving and eating meals. The meal is served on a plantain (banana) leaf and is usually eaten by hand, seated with padmasana like position on the floor.[3] As per traditions male members must be bare chested while eating meal and must not talk except for deveranama (bhajan). While having meals, all Brahmins including women and children must start and end their meal together. No one should get up during the meals. The meal is wholesome and elaborate in preparation, serving and eating. Which citation is there for this in shivalli brahmins page Shivashambo (talk) 08:42, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Some reliable sources supporting that would be required. It may also be considered too detailed, I suggest you discuss with other editors involved on the different article talk pages. Sam Sailor 10:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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sir, thanks for your suggestions. I am extremely obliged .In the page tuluva brahmins all the references are put up by me.The real extant rigvedi brahmins of tulu nadu are Sthanika tulu brahmins with history predating 380 B.C.i.e nearly 2000 years.Even if you refer thiruananthpuram temple records of kerala which is parashurama kshetra it states that it was founded by Divakara muni during the begining of kali yuga.i.e 50000 years back by sthanika brahmins. Remaining brahmins mentioned there in the tuluva brahmins page are immigrants exodus.They cant claim to be tuluva brahmins.Since only 900-1000 years has elapsed since the exodus.Thus i wrote in the page of tuluva brahmins as sthanikas are the oldest brahmins of parashurama kshetra and the original inhabitants .While writing ethnography and anthropology lot of deducing facts from logic have to be done on practical analysis Shivashambo (talk) 08:16, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You have been told repeatedly that the respecitve articles' talk pages are the appropriate venues to discuss the articles' content. Please make use of them. Huon (talk) 10:43, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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sir, thanks for your suggestions. I am extremely obliged .In the page tuluva brahmins all the references are put up by me.The real extant rigvedi brahmins of tulu nadu are Sthanika tulu brahmins with history predating 380 B.C.i.e nearly 2000 years.Even if you refer thiruananthpuram temple records of kerala which is parashurama kshetra it states that it was founded by Divakara muni during the begining of kali yuga.i.e 50000 years back by sthanika brahmins. Remaining brahmins mentioned there in the tuluva brahmins page are immigrants exodus.They cant claim to be tuluva brahmins.Since only 900-1000 years has elapsed since the exodus.Thus i wrote in the page of tuluva brahmins as sthanikas are the oldest brahmins of parashurama kshetra and the original inhabitants .While writing ethnography and anthropology lot of deducing facts from logic have to be done on practical analysis. Just dont delete some information since you didn't find ref sources and citations. Please do cross check it. Shivashambo (talk) 08:19, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll add that the burden of evidence is on the editor who wants to include content. Just don't add some information if you didn't find ref sources and citations. Huon (talk) 10:43, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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Reason of editing adi shankaracharya page and tuluva brahmins
Sir , As far as the date of adi shankaracharya is concerned it is highly shrouded in mystry and exact references according to sringeri peetam is 786A.D.Now Nambudiri brahmins came as an exodus to kerala in later part of 9'th A.D.according to many historians.They migrated from eastern part of godavari. So writing that Shankaracharya was born to nambudiri brahmin family is highly questionable. So i deleted that sentence. In tuluva brahmin page i edited that Sthanika tulu brahmins were present right from the begining of kaliyuga as from the record available from trivandrum ananthpadmanabha temple. All other brahmins are exodus immigrants from other part of the country. Thanks Shivashambo (talk) 11:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

March 2019
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Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Sthanika Brahmins. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. - Arjayay (talk) 09:37, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Sthanika Brahmins. - Arjayay (talk) 09:42, 11 March 2019 (UTC)