User talk:Shock Brigade Harvester Boris/Archive 5

Phantom time
Actually the theory is not completely insane. There is more coverage in German scholarship than in English, and it touches in a weak point in historiography: we have few manuscript sources from that period. It is not politically correct to call it 'the Dark Ages', but it does not reflect much light. Most manuscript sources date to much later, i.e. they are copies of earlier texts that did not survive (and which never existed, per the theory). A lot of dating involves more estimation than you would like. For example, if x mentions y, then we infer that x is later than y, and if z mentions x, we infer that x is earlier than z, and so you get an ordering with anchor points from which a whole chronology can be reconstructed. The anchor points are often coronations or papal appointments or something like that. An infuriating aspect of medieval scholarship is that unlike Wikipedia, writers rarely mention sources. They say things like "some people say that ... other people say that ...", so you have to guess who 'some people', 'other people' actually were. Perhaps they thought it was impolite to mention people by name, but it makes the history of ideas a minefield. Peter Damian (talk) 11:16, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Flipora
Got it. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 19:14, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

 * Not sure what this is all about but I'll eat the cupcake anyway. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 12:54, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Not a biggy. One Click Archiver issue. Enjoy the cupcake.  SMirC-angel.svg  --Atsme ��&#x1F4E7; 13:07, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Boris, I am happy that you will be monitoring WP:Advocacy ducks. It's on my Watchlist, too. I have no qualms admitting that my first attempt at writing an essay was extremely raw and lacked insight. The criticisms in the first MfD taught me a lot and you can rest assured, the lessons did not go to waste. --Atsme &#x1F4DE;&#x1F4E7; 13:21, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the correction
I wasn't sure which of the templates to use. Thank you for adding the correct one. I also removed the duck template which seemed to have gotten some underwear in a wad. Maybe they'll be more comfortable now. --Atsme &#x1F4DE;&#x1F4E7; 13:57, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Per Sting. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 14:29, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions on climate change
Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions on alternative medicine
Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Not at all
I have NO affiliation with LRX in anyways whatsoever. I was the one who added critical material to the program that is the version of the article I left it in before it got blanked out.--Taeyebaar (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 20:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Not a massive fan of yours....
All things considered I AM NOT A MASSIVE FAN 81.153.22.140 (talk) 22:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

I wish to retract the above statement
I am much more of a fan now due to your cooperation. Please consider joining my army of 748 dedicated vandals to improve the talk pages of wikipedia. 81.158.98.246 (talk) 01:51, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

RPP & posting at the bottom
The main reason things like that happen is because WP:Twinkle automatically adds the reports to the top of the page. So it's not so much a case of people not reading as of people not noticing. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah, Twinkle. The festering boil on the bottom of so many errors and misunderstandings... Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 00:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Twinkle certainly has its downsides, yes. Still useful as a tool, though, provided one either knows how to avoid the pitfalls or keeps a proper eye on what they're doing and is fast in undoing whatever stupidity came from the use of Twinkle this time. (Then again, keeping a proper eye on one's edits is always good advice, manual or assisted edit/action...) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:32, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

RFC closure challenge
The closing of an RFC in which you participated, is being challenged at WP:AN -   Cwobeel   (talk)  00:14, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

CC Denial stuff
I suppose I earned your rebuke, but let me unpack my comment a bit.

I'm old enough, that, when I was a kid in Stillwater, Oklahoma, we still had "white" and "colored" bathrooms at the train station. (And several passenger trains a day.) Plus a segregated neighborhood for poor blacks, known to all kids as "niggertown". "Colored town" to more polite adults. Compare "Denier" to "Denialist".

Why you would care about this, I don't know, except that I recall you also expressing distaste for the Denial propaganda-page AWB. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC) [Deleted by author, restored by page owner 06/30/15]


 * This is hands-down the most disgusting thing that has ever appeared on my talk page. Pete, you're smarter than this, so why are you doing it? Are you deliberately trying to provoke? Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 00:04, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Boris, I'm sorry you didn't care for my little story of how things were, not so many years ago. But it's an accurate memory, and a cautionary tale. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * And I'm mystified as to why you find this little bit of history "hands-down the most disgusting thing that has ever appeared on my talk page." So, if you care to unpack your comment, fine. Otherwise please just leave it deleted, as I already did. I wasn't trying to be offensive. If you can't see that the Skeptic = Denier campaign is a political campaign intended to marginalize/stigmatize opponents, well.... maybe you need to read some history and/or social psychology. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 03:40, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Wise counsel?
So, do you have any to offer, re the situation outlined at Talk:Climate change denial? Other than, "stay the hell away?" I am thinking pretty seriously about following your advice. And also thinking about staying the hell away, and let the fucking thing lie in its own stinking sty. Which should it be? Your pal, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * With pals, who needs anemones? Your input at that talk page section will be greatly appreciated. Or as comrade Trotsky may have said, take your pick. . . dave souza, talk 21:43, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the word that the young people use is "meh." I've chosen to (mostly) stay away from that topic for various reasons -- partly because I'm more interested in the scientific aspects of the topic, partly because those on both sides are getting overwrought about things that (IMNSHO) aren't hugely important, partly for still other reasons. Dave, you should be punished. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 22:31, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Anemonies... OK, now I get it. I was picturing.... --Pete Tillman (talk) 23:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That wasn't the wurst of it -- check his last sentence. (Google "Trotsky pick" if you're not up on Soviet history.) Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:41, 4 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah, the ice pick. The Soviets. The Russians.... lovely people--Pete Tillman (talk) 20:55, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Arb CC notifications
Hi Boris,

Re this.... FYI, in case you don't know, the DS system for enforcing arb rulings was overhauled. In case you notify anyone besides yourself, under the new system we're explicitly told to use only the DS template. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 05:39, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * That's what I did -- I think? The diffs include the string "Derived from Template:Ds/alert" so it looks like the text shown was auto-expanded from the DS template. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 12:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * We're not using the "notifications" section of the rulings anymore. All notices posted in ARB cases have expired (I think).  Instead, we're supposed to notify someone by creating a new section and providing the new DS alert template, and nothing else.  I do that by typing
 * cc ~
 * maybe there are other ways. I also self alerted and tested how it works, there's ramblings about the testing here. We're supposed to look for prior alerts for that topic area within past 12 months before doing it again, too.   Afterwards, any further comments can be added to follow up posts.   Meanwhile, I look forward to whatever supplemental statement you make at AE, whether it reflects poorly on me or not.  There has indeed been too much table pounding and not enough vigorous policy and RS-based debate. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:24, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * More information can be found here: Template:Ds/alert. Liz  Read! Talk! 16:44, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Tropical cyclone
You might like to check your recent edit at Tropical cyclone. I looked because the article is now in an error tracking category and the diff includes changing "order=flip" (good) in a convert to "disp=flip" (deprecated) and lots of other changes which made me wonder whether it was intentional. Johnuniq (talk) 03:21, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, very weird stuff is been happening with my edits tonight. See here for another example, and here for another. I don't have the slightest idea what's causing this so I'm going to shut down for the night. Thanks for the heads-up. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Palestine-Israel articles 3 arbitration case opened
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Urban heat island
Feel like improving the "causes" stuff at urban heat island? I'm not convinced the article currently does very well (esp. lede) and this is close to your stuff. IPCC is a touch vague - because they're not terribly interested in the causes, only in the effect on the record (e.g. https://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch7s7-2-2-2.html#box-7-2) William M. Connolley (talk) 17:30, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I might work on it now and then but can't put in a concentrated effort -- lots going on now. While abusively stalking your contributions I noticed HadCM3 and made some minor changes which you may want to double check. Do you remember where the top level is? My recollection is that it's in the single digits of mb (3 mb? 5 mb?) but have forgotten the exact value and would like to say something more specific than "way up high."  Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:50, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

only one MATLAB script?
Most of Woodcock's work has been in computer modeling - so I find that claim unconvincing. The Monte Carlo simulation based on Woodcock's original Fortran program is, in fact, a major part of MATLAB AFAICT, not a mere "single script". . Collect (talk) 13:07, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The way you wrote the text made it look like Woodcock's program was the source of all of MATLAB: "MATLAB was based on his Fortran program." The source only acknowledges his Fortran program as the source of the MD_LJ script. And it's a script the textbook authors developed themselves -- not a part of the MATLAB distribution, much less a "major part." Suggest more careful reading in future. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 13:17, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I possibly misread the footnote as implying that MATLAB uses Woodcock's Fortran Monte Carlo simulation itself. Mathworks definitely uses and promotes Sandler's works.    Collect (talk) 13:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

The "Nature News" stuff looks like amateur content aggregation (and adds very little - we establish the person is notable, and that there is the single "interview" (which no one seems to have ever proofread at the newspaper) and that this is discordant with consensus). I think the "Noah's Ark" aside should be given in the full context where he also mentions ancient desert floods - else it makes him sound like a loon while it is reasonably likely he was making a general reference to traditional stories about floods, and the actual accepted belief than some deserts were, indeed, flooded in the past. Collect (talk) 13:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * All the sourcing in that article is lousy. Even the best of the sources, the esteemed Yorkshire Evening Post (mostly a sports paper, from what I can tell), makes a howler: quoting Woodcock, “We can go back to great floods and Noah’s Ark in the Middle East regions which are now desserts." I seriously doubt Woodcock meant that entire regions were creme brulee or German chocolate cake. And that's my main point: we just don't have enough sourcing for a decent bio on the guy. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 13:53, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * "YEP" is a splendid example of horrid journalistic standards.  Though I do like great desserts.  Woodcock does appear to be widely known for his computer modeling in the sphere of thermodynamics -  I would not trust YEP for accuracy regarding Woodcock's words in context , but that does not mean he is not reasonably well-known within his field, and we can afford having him with a short article without the added (and likely quite irrelevant) "climate change" stuff in it.  Collect (talk) 14:43, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

New name
I like the new name. I trust it symbolises an change of attitude - no more of this namby-pmaby pandering to denialists William M. Connolley (talk) 08:18, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Great new name! Bishonen &#124; talk 09:13, 27 September 2015 (UTC).
 * Change came as a shock but accepted. I recommended reading your essay about arbitration ("Disregard the commandments herein at your peril.") a lot recently, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's bothered me for a while. I've listened over and over again and still think Phil Proctor is saying "short" instead of "shock." But "shock" is correct. And as the young people say it's "edgier".
 * Here is the closest I've been able to find to the source for the Firesign skit (headline "To each according...") though instead of Boris they call the protagonist Ivan Rostov. Doesn't have nearly as nice a ring to it.
 * As William implies there will be severe consequences for shirkers and the politically unreliable. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 14:31, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Serves them right! --Stephan Schulz (talk) 14:45, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hey
Just wanted to let you know that your warning notice on the top of your talk page is perhaps the funniest thing I've seen on this entire site. Cheers, GABHello! 23:02, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a drunken drummer. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:39, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

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temptation
My sole comment on such a person (hypothetically) is that their sole ideology is based on votes, and not on anything else, and that the key issue is likely to be one of their long-term health, which no one dares raise . And that this comment applies to a large number of people. Cryptic enough for any IP lurker . Collect (talk) 12:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Genetically modified organisms arbitration proposed decision posted
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2016 year of the reader and peace
Thank you for good comments last year. I recommend your arbcom essay a lot! 2016 had a good start, with a Bach cantata (a day late) and an opera reflecting that we should take nothing to seriuz, - Verdi's wisdom, shown on New Year's Day, also as a tribute to Viva-Verdi. (Click on "bell" for more.) Miss Yunshui (among others) and his harmonious editing. We can only try to follow the models of those who left. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

AE notification logging
Hi Boris,

I noted your addition of Hugh to the log of ARBCC notices and just FYI that log is now for historical purposes only. Instead, logging takes now takes place with a tag on the server, and the tag is set by issuing someone cc ~. All of the notices that were posted in the old log ceased to be effective on 5-3-15. Thereafter, an AE complaint has to show someone "had notice" once every 12 months. The new system is more nuanced, but that's the gist. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:50, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Himmler
Hi there. Can you provide a page number for your recent addition to Himmler? Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:53, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I tried, but looks like I messed it up. Apologies -- I've never been any good at those reference templates. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:36, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed, no huhu. Thanks — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:57, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion
Hello, Shock Brigade Harvester Boris. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I rather doubt he's a climate scientist as claimed
Indeed, more of a wannabee William M. Connolley (talk) 22:24, 30 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Probably so. I think he means well. But one of the hardest things I have to do is un-teach the "blanket" analogy he promotes along with other incorrect explanations that students have absorbed. In comparison students pick up supposedly more complex ideas like equatorially trapped Kelvin waves fairly easily, because the topic is completely new and they have no pre-existing incorrect mental model to unlearn. More at the excellent "Bad Greenhouse" Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:38, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Comment at AE
I'll respond here instead of AE to this. One of the reasons why we wanted discretionary sanctions on the topic was to avoid the circus at ANI with never-ending threads as opposed to word limits at AE. I know AE isn't the greatest either, but it would seem less likely to get derailed than ANI as admins are theoretically supposed to be able to cut through the cruft a little easier there. Not to mention that a cut and dry case like this should be easily handled by a single admin. I could be wrong too, but being a sanctioned topic usually means these cases should go to AE, so that's all why I've stuck with AE. I definitely hear you though that AE hasn't been perfect either though. Kingofaces43 (talk) 02:10, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of User:Jonas Vinther
I saw that you would like to have a friendly word with me about the subject of this section. -- GB fan 19:27, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking in. I assume you're aware of the backstory on Jonas. Anyway I've looked into this a little more and found you were completely in the right on policy grounds -- it was a page in user space to which (I assume) no other editors had contributed. Jonas has left enough of a trail at WP:ANI and elsewhere that while burning the user page hides the worst, there's enough left to piece things together.
 * Also, on re-reading my comment I see that it could have come across more snarky than I meant -- sometimes my attempts at humor work out that way. Please accept my apologies for that. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:38, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I was not aware of the backstory when I deleted the page, I really don't pay attention to who the person is when I evaluate U1s. I saw the stuff happening at the RFA but I did not put two and two together until I found your note.  Whenever some questions a deletion I go back and look again to make sure I didn't miss anything.  I deleted over 1500 revisions.  Not all were made by Jonas, (didn't count how many exactly) but it looks like less than were made by other editors.  None of them were substantial edits, some vandalism and reverts and the rest were editors removing non-free images.
 * The comment could come off as a little snarky, but I always try to remember that the written language is hard to assign emotions to and try to take things at face value. Thank you for the apology, it is definitely accepted.  -- GB fan 03:45, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


 * By the way, guys, Ideology of the SS, to which I was alerted by that RfA, can use some editing help, as can the main article. The problem is the tendency of that article to lapse into SS jargon. Just in case you're interested. Coretheapple (talk) 17:19, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh and I wanted to add that Schutzstaffel itself can use more eyes, for those so inclined. Frankly I don't quite understand why it isn't known as simply "SS" but I guess they have their reasons. Coretheapple (talk) 14:05, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Peter Langdon Ward?
You might be interested: Peter Langdon Ward William M. Connolley (talk) 16:28, 6 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Nice little advertisement he's got there. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 17:11, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

MilHist discussion
Hi, just a note that there is a WikiProject Military history discussion on WWII GA/FA articles that you may be interested in. K.e.coffman (talk) 18:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I don't get involved in GA/FA stuff. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 19:34, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Please undo your revert
Your reversion was quite inappropriate. Keep in mind that this is the talk page of the Heartland Institute, and a specific section discussing a specific statement in the article. A newish editor, who can be forgiven for not yet knowing how things work, started with an on topic response to Heartland issues, but then began a rambling rant on various global warming issues, which are interesting but have no bearing on the Heartland issue. I didn't collapse the discussion as an administrator but as an editor. The other editor is quite welcome to start a new section but links to articles such as the deep ocean explanation for the hiatus, while quite interesting, are unrelated to the Heartland discussion. I respectfully request that you reverse your reversion and help explain to this new editor how to contribute in a positive way.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  16:27, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * First, let me acknowledge that you did this action in your capacity as an editor and not as an admin. You promised at your RfA that you would recuse yourself from acting as an administrator on the topic of climate change and you very commendably have stuck with that commitment. My statement that "as an administrator you should know better" was intended to say that administrators should be especially cognizant of editing norms, not that you were acting as an administrator. Please accept my apologies for any misunderstanding.
 * Which brings us to the second point. You hatted part a discussion in which you had commented extensively, including responses to your comments (such as my response on the point of scientific consensus). That's inappropriate and we'd expect admins in particular to know better even when acting as editors. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The discussion had veered from the subject. Poodleboy is trying to explain why it is on-topic, and not doing very well. As you well know, it is quite common to hat discussions when they veer off-topic, and there is no requirement that I'm aware of, that such hatting is not permitted if one has commented. If you read my comments, you will see my comment was specifically noting that the subject was off-topic, and that wasn't working so I decided to try plan B.


 * What's done is done - I request that you join in the discussion, and see if you can help get it back on-topic. As you well know, climate issues have a checkered hsitory of getting far off-topic, and I want your help in keeping it on track.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  17:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC)


 * The "deep ocean explanation" for the hiatus was about a mechanism which attributed roughly half the warming phase to a different mode of the same cause. It was on topic because the HI statement about 2 thirds of the 90s being natural was mentioned and misunderstood to be outside the consensus. Poodleboy (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You seem to be debating whether HI might be right, which is NOT the topic heading. (Sorry, SBHB, I though it polite to let Poodleboy know I mentioned him, but I didn't intend to transfer the debate here.)-- S Philbrick (Talk)  16:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Rfc?
Hi, Boris. I was wondering if you have some background in seismology (no?). If so – but even if not! – I wonder if you might be interested in pursuing the material at Talk:Earthquake_prediction and commenting. I would appreciate it. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:13, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Good lord what a mess. It's not really my field so I'm inclined to give it a pass. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 23:57, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Sea Lions. Thank you. Guy Macon (talk) 14:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Idle chatter
Hey, I replied on my talk page. That's not why I'm telling you this. It's because I tried to ping you with a template and I wanted to know if it worked, so I needed to make sure you were at least aware of this enough to answer "no" if it didn't. Go ahead and erase this discount TB because I saw you don't like TBs. Sorry! MjolnirPants  Tell me all about it.  02:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback regarding the ways in which I should be editing content. It has helped me navigate the complex web that is Wikipedia. Lawrence Hirst (talk) 15:19, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Tl;dr
I'm just gonna comment on how ironic it is that the WP:Tl;dr essay needs to be shortened.  — Gestrid  ( talk ) 22:33, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. There's a bit of history to that -- see the spate of edits in late 2010 through early 2011. I couldn't tell whether the editors involved were serious in their defense of verbosity, or were just taking the piss. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 00:26, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Ref desk deletion
Hey, just curious why you deleted this. Thanks. Someguy1221 (talk) 02:27, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * It was totally unintentional. According to my browser I was deleting the question from the ref desk troll (which I had mistakenly interpreted as a question from an uninformed kid). But somehow your edit and mine crossed.
 * I've had this kind of edit collision (or whatever it's called) happen several times before. No idea whether it's a bug in the MW software, or a browser issue, or something else. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

December 2016
Before adding a category to an article, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. Categories must also be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 20:10, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * And that is a final warning! One last chance before you're drawn and quartered. Bishonen &#124; talk 20:20, 10 December 2016 (UTC).
 * What can I say? It's not my fault that the name of the template is too good to resist. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 20:25, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

December 2016
This is your only warning. Editors on Wikipedia are sometimes required to have fun in order to avoid the potentially serious consequences of Wikipedia related disorders, especially those which become chronic. Please do not attempt to interfere in this process. Further disruption will result in a report being filed at the appropriate noticeboard. Timothy Joseph Wood 20:43, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Putin
Hi and thanks for the heads up.

Just to comment in regards to edit summaries and tone down - this userTalk:Vladimir_Putin is a banned violator for years, if I sounded less than serious with them, it is because I see no benefit in reporting them, they will only return. that is the meaning of lala lala lol Govindaharihari (talk) 19:38, 26 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The proper response to a suspicion of sockpuppetry is to file a report at WP:SPA; if the case is complex, a noticeboard report (such as WP:ANI) may be preferable instead. Sure it can be frustrating (several long-term sockpuppets have hundreds of accounts) but that's the only way. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 20:37, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks. The user in question appears to have hundreds of accounts which he uses for a day and moves on so I won't report at this stage. Happy new year to you and thanks for the advice and sanctions notice. Govindaharihari (talk) 14:16, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

you, yeah YOU
FYI, I linked a 2011 diff of yours at talk GW. No biggie, I just wanted to beat William to the punch posting something here, though I'm pretty sure he'd be funnier. Bwwww ha ha I win. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:27, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


 * YOU? That probably wasn't funnier but I do like it. Someone needs to do a Trump version William M. Connolley (talk) 08:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you catch this one at ANI? I'll have to dust off my  dictionary. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 13:12, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I especially liked the "sorry for my English", and nice twist on "pardon my French" NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Barielle Nail Strengthening Cream


A tag has been placed on Barielle Nail Strengthening Cream, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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 * WP:DTTR. Seriously. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:12, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

That section you restored is still bugging me!
Talk:2017 Women's March took to TP per your request. Would you care to comment there? Would you object to the well-sourced content being moved to the other celebrity section in the article? TeeVeeed (talk) 23:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Trend?
Just curious if you think the general direction of the Satellite article is pos or neg? Don't really want to get into details here though NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 21:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Eh. These things happen. I see WMC has effected repairs. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:10, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Spoilsport!
...I was already looking forward to learning some interesting new details about electrochemistry. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 22:12, 11 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I need cataract surgery on my other eye. So kill me. It does make for some very entertaining misspellings as well as slightly psychedelic responses to misreading, which I often leave uncorrected even when I notice them. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 22:18, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Oy! Speedy recovery. My personell prefered mispelling is is errors off word and lettter multiplicity. And I start too mix up to many homophones, which may mean I start too sink in acoustic English. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 22:27, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Your email
Unfortunately, I can't suggest anything; I've only been here since October (I moved from 500 miles away) and don't know much of anything about historical sources for this part of the country, aside from National Register documentation. I can give you a link to this place's NR documentation, since it's online, but I won't unless you tell me that it's okay to mention on-wiki the place you asked about. Otherwise, go to that state's section at WP:NRHPHELP and follow the links; the PDF nomination is online. Nyttend (talk) 00:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

the mail
hello - to quote you - some of which you already have participated in - would you please link to those discussions, thanks - or retract your comment, regards. 20:13, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Actually, reading your post I think you have missed my position completely - my point of discussion is about a new approach to all similar publications in general - to create a new BLP standard for such sources, one that would ultimately not totally reject any single source. It is not a new location for a similar discussion - it is a completely new idea and discussion point. Govindaharihari (talk) 20:35, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Notice old RfC withdrawn and recreated with a clarified question
This is to notify you that the prior RfC at Talk:List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming was withdrawn as the question confused several people, and instead it was re-opened with a new clarified question. I am notifying all those that responded to the old RfC (except those that have already responded) so that they may comment on the new RfC. The new RfC is here: Talk:List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming Obsidi (talk) 23:39, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Good article reassessment of Alkaline diet
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Personal attack
wp:npa - this edit of yours labelling me a troll and a vandal [here] - you linked to wp:deny - This is a personal attack, I request you apologise and retract it. I am not a wp:troll or a wp:vandal by any description. I am a good faith en wikipedia user for two and a half years with almost seven thousand improvement contributions with a clean block log. Govindaharihari (talk) 06:04, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * That was not a personal attack, nor did it use the either the word "troll" or the word "vandal". It was an observation; editors are allowed to make observations about other editors and to suggest ways of responding to them. Your continued harping, on the other hand, accorss multiple talk pages and in multiple venues, is disruptive editing, and sooner or later is going to get you blocked -- at this rate I'm predicting sooner. Softlavender (talk) 07:03, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ta for replying as a talkpage stalker but I am seeking a reply from the actual commenter in regards to their linking to Deny recognition. Just to also note, after the above user Softlavender commented here without links I have requested links on their userpage, here - Govindaharihari (talk) 07:09, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

The sandbox material could not evolve into a mainspace article in anything remotely resembling its current form.
work in progress... Initial efforts may not be to your standards but, with contributions, it could serve to document something not being covered I.E. coup d'état. btw, impeachment is only part of the ongoing coup d'état efforts. Let us eat lettuce (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ccprobation
Template:Ccprobation has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:44, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Capitalization of job titles
It is covered in WP:JOBTITLES, which makes no exception for "formal" job titles. WP does not capitalize executive director or senior executive director or shipping clerk or senior shipping clerk or assistant shipping clerk, not even pope, which is decidedly an official title. Please help clean up Roy Spencer (scientist).
 * OK. Wiki has some odd rules sometimes, but I guess we have to follow them. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 18:10, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

You were right
You were totally right, at.

I hope things can settle down some.

Let me know if you have any other advice, I'm all ears. Sagecandor (talk) 16:51, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * As the saying goes, "all's well that ends." Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 17:40, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Unless the thing that ends well is ground water depletion. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:52, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Roswell That Ends Well. Sagecandor (talk) 21:29, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Brain fart, I just realized I read your prior comment wrong.  That version was even better!  So, for me, this thread is "all's well" because it now, well..... you know. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:42, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * QED. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 22:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

JUNE 2017
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 * Thanks for letting me know. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

aen
Any chance of an example of an unclear or incomplete sentence? Regards Keith-264 (talk) 01:09, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Trout
From a loving fan

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Climate science opinion graph
Moving off Connolley's talk page. I believe that File:Climate science opinion graph 3 Sans.svg is sanserif. See c:User talk:Jim1138 for discussion. fixed up my botched attempt here - File:Climate science opinion graph 3.svg replacing the font with sanserif and doing other useful things as well. InkScape's file was 17k v JoKalliauer's file 7k. I guess I need better software. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 04:47, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks good. Thanks for your effort on this. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 12:25, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Organ Cave
I just noticed that you sent me an email in March regarding Organ Cave. I'm really sorry that I never responded! May I post here the general question/comments about the cave? You gave some family history, which of course I won't post on-wiki.

You requested sourcing. I'm not familiar with the site; I'm growing gradually more familiar with Virginia, but I nearly never cross into West Virginia or use its sources. I can work on finding sources if you wish, but I'd really be starting from scratch. Nyttend (talk) 23:33, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the followup. Please don't go to any trouble.  I was asking in case you happened to know of something off the top of your head. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:38, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Climate change discretionary sanctions notice
Hi, I noticed that you placed a notice on my talk page regarding the Climate change discretionary sanctions notice. Now, all I have done on the topic was change some cumbersome wording in the Wikipedia article on John Christy, and propose in the talk page to amend the title of the "climate change denial". You also reverted my changes on the John Christy page. If could you please elaborate on the reason for posting the sanctions notice on my talk page, and tell me why you believe that my changes to John Christy's page were not an improvement, that would be helpful. Actuarialninja (talk) 13:22, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note the wording at the bottom of the message Boris left you: Please keep in mind that this notice is for informational purposes only and does not imply any accusation of wrongdoing on your part. Guettarda (talk) 14:39, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * But also note that you have made several reverts to the John Christy page, but have not used an edit summary to describe your changes (which is helpful) or attempted to open a discussion on the article's talk page (which is the appropriate thing to do if you try to make a change and it gets reverted). Hope this helps. Guettarda (talk) 14:42, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Guettarda - I did use the edit summary for my initial change to John Christy's page and to my latest revert. Unfortunately, Shock Brigade Harvester Boris didn't put any useful info in the edit summary when undoing my change, and did not use the talk page, so I cannot know where I went wrong. I thought my edit was helpful and improved the quality of the article. If Shock Brigade Harvester Boris disagrees and does not think it is an improvement, I would like to know why. Actuarialninja (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

IP vandal
SBHB - I reverted that inappropriate comment because it was from a vandal, and have seen other users do the same thing at his page, (and at Jimbo's page) so why did you choose to revert mine, considering my name was also included and I didn't want it to be associated with such nonsense? I figured Drmies would have known what I did the same way I know what gets posted and removed on my TP.Atsme 📞📧 23:34, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

File:Climate science opinion2.png
has done an excellent job on a replacement for File:Climate science opinion2.png. Ordered per my perceived quality: JoKalliauer appears to have bypassed the Wikirenderer by converting the text to a path. You can see the files on my commons talk page: c:User talk:Jim1138 What do you think about replacement of File:Climate science opinion2.png with one of these? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 22:41, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Climate_science_opinion_graph_3Path.svg
 * File:Climate science opinion graph 3 Sans.svg
 * File:Climate science opinion graph 3.svg
 * Wouldn't it make sense to have the bars in chronological order left to right? FourViolas (talk) 12:58, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Jim1138, I agree with your ranking. It would be fine to replace the png version with the first listed of the svg graphs.  FourViolas, the surveys were done during such a narrow window of time that they can be viewed as contemporaneous. One could argue that the bars should be in some order, but there could be a better choice than chronological Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:58, 11 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Bleh. Science. Drmies (talk) 01:59, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Who asked you, Drmies? Go write a quatrain or a pentameter or something. Me, I'm going to spend some quality time playing with my new toy. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:05, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Through a Marshall Lead, Lemmy? (Ha, I'm old school too--I am playing A Day at the Races, just procured on vinyl.) Drmies (talk) 02:09, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Ha that's funny--John Deacon played one too, apparently, but I can't hear it on this album. Drmies (talk) 02:12, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I thought he mostly used a Precision. Anyway, after I win the lottery and buy a house big enough to fit it'll be twin SVT stacks. With the Rick-O-Sound you need one for each pickup. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:21, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

- Jim1138 (talk) 07:16, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Replaced.
 * Surveys of scientists' views on climate change
 * List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming
 * Scientific opinion on climate change
 * Global warming controversy