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RE: Edit Summary at 2009-10 Orlando Magic season
I didn't mean anything like that, I just meant that I wish all these wins the Magic have gotten in the preseason so far carried over into the regular season so they would have a good head start on everyone else. :)

But I agree with you about the poor maintenance on the NBA season articles. For exapmle, the one thing that has really caught my eye, is the game log templates for each team this season. I don't know if it's because the templates have been created and just haven't been added to the category for 2009-10 season game log templates, but there are only 4 teams with game log templates for this season, including the one for the Magic that I just created two nights ago. And the ones that have been created don't have a link to that team's 2009-10 season schedule on ESPN.com because they don't have the end_year=2010 at the top and bottom. The only template that does have that is the one for the Magic, because I caught that while I was making the template and saw how to fix it on the page. I imagine there are several major problems that you may have already seen with the other teams, but I don't involve myself with any of the wikiprojects so I've never brought it up with anyone. Tampabay721 (talk) 03:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm still a little skeptical about the Vince Carter acquisition, but that's only because I keep thinking about it like the Rays getting Pat Burrell in the last baseball offseason, and instead of being this monster home run hitter like he had been pretty much his entire career with the Phillies, he turned out to be a huge disappointment this year. And I know comparing basketball players to baseball players is like comparing apples to space shuttles, but I have had some horrible luck in terms of sports in the last year, so I'm hoping Carter does well and the Magic can be even stronger than they were last year! Tampabay721 (talk) 04:32, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

CIS standings templates
Hi, Glad to see you work on these articles. I know that the new CIS website lists conference wins and losses for Canada West and OUA but they don't actually have any cross-conference games, are erroneous, and ought to be omitted. I also wonder if there is any need of the boxes being templates at all, if they are not to be transcluded in multiple places. It might as well be substituted, hadn't it? I've been too busy lately to do a reasonable job of keeping up with these articles but hope to get them up to proper snuff at some date. Cheers! Double Blue (talk) 02:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Of course, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference if it's a template or not, except that it may be slightly less obvious how to edit for new editors, it just doesn't seem needed either and especially not by year if it's not going to be needed to be multiply transcluded and forever updated.
 * The Pre-season games should not and are not included in the standings. The weird hiccup of having "non-conference games" erroneously showing up on the new CIS website I suspect is due to the drive to quickly and belatedly put up the site before the season is finally over. You can see that some games are mistakenly listed as non-conference, for example the October 3 McMaster @ Western game http://english.cis-sic.ca/sports/fball/2009-10/schedule?team=Western which ends up showing the OUA standings for both Western and Mac with only 7 conference games in an 8 game schedule. Double Blue  (talk) 04:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Canada West had two pre-season games; they are not counted in the standings by Canada West or anyone nor should they be. No league I know of in any sport counts pre-season games in standings; they are practice work-outs and often looser rules. The Canada West schedule webpage labelling them as "non-conference" is certainly a misnomer. The QUFL/AUAA games are true inter-conference games. Double Blue  (talk) 04:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * They're pre-season games that do not count in the standings and allow the coaches to work-out their players, plays, rookies. They can choose to take it somewhat seriously, of course, to get things started on the right foot, but they also know, in the end, it does not count. Double Blue  (talk) 04:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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World Juniors
I'm pretty sure they don't. I recall reading somewhere that they don't, but that was at least a year ago. I did some digging on the IIHF site and found a couple of things: last year's championship, at the very bottom, it says Canada wins gold and Kazakhstan and Germany are relegated. But for division I, all it says is who's relegated and promoted, which I interpret as no medal given. This isn't exactly damning evidence, though. Feel free to change it back if you think it would be best. Or perhaps something like, "only those in the top division can be named champions" until we can confirm it. Schmloof (talk) 03:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Each group is awarded medals with the year and division. Raul17 (talk) 22:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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FYI Kudpung (talk) 02:35, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Louisiana IceGators
I do not know the story about the IceGators's mistaken affialiation with the New York Islanders, but I know that NHL clubs are only officially affiliated with AHL and ECHL clubs. On November 4, Mike Sellito (a player who was signed to an AHL contract) was announced by the Bridgeport Sound Tigers of being cut by the team and was being sent to the IceCats. I think the IceCats announced that they are affiliated with Islanders on October 18(?), but it seems that is not so. (The Sound Tigers club is owned by the Islanders so any agreement that the IceCats thought they had with Bridgeport is also an agreement with the Islanders.)

But I think your concern was the levels of hockey. The AHL can be considered as the AAA of hockey and the ECHL AA, but the CHL also thinks itself as AA. The other hockey leagues do not officially call themselves the A level of hockey. For this reason, I do think list any ECHL club being affiliated with any of the other hockey leagues. If you take a close look at the transactions between the AHL and ECHL (take the player movements between the AHL's Lowell/Albany Devils and the ECHL's Trenton Devils), you will notice that you do not see any recalls or assignments between the two leagues. You will sometimes see the ECHL loaning players to the AHL or those players being signed to PTO's (Professial Tryout Contracts) who are then released from the AHL club back to the ECHL. This also happens with ECHL clubs and those clubs in the other leagues.

I hope that helps a little. Thanks, Raul17 (talk) 10:46, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I misspoke a little. There are recalls & assignments between the AHL & ECHL, but I was pointing out that most of those movements are PTO deals. Last season, I mistakenly thought that any transaction between the Lowell Devils and Trenton Devils were normal recalls & assignments because both are own by the [New Jersey Devils]]. Lowell was actually signing the Trenton players to PTOs when they were in the AHL and then releasing them when they returned to Trenton (see below). Every AHL team except three are affiliated with the ECHL. The Providence Bruins are not affiliated like their parent, the Boston Bruins with the Reading Royals; the Portland Pirates with the Buffalo Sabres have no ECHL affiliation; and the Lake Erie Monsters with the Colorado Avalanche also do not an ECHL affiliate but both are affiliated with CHL's Tulsa Oilers. When the Rochester Americans were part of the Buffalo Sabres organization, they would have their own ECHL affiliate while the Sabres who did not.

Player movement between leagues
Raul17 (talk) 18:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * NHL contracted players are loaned from NHL clubs to AHL/ECHL clubs or re-assigned from AHL to ECHL by NHL clubs.
 * NHL contract players are 'recalled from loan by NHL clubs from AHL/ECHL or re-assigned from from ECHL to AHL by NHL clubs.
 * AHL contracted players are loaned from AHL to ECHL or assigned to CHL/AAHL/FHL/SPHL clubs(which is listed as loaned in those leagues' transaction).
 * AHL contract players to NHL: those players are released from their AHL contracts & signed to at least 2-way NHL contract.
 * AHL contract players are 'recalled from loan from ECHL and other minor leagues.
 * ECHL (and other minor leagues) contracted players are loaned to AHL: those players are signed to AHL Professional Tryout Contract (PTO).
 * ECHL (and other minor leagues) contract players are returning from loan from AHL: those players are released from their AHL PTO.

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Speedy deletion nomination of 1914 Saskatchewan Huskies football team


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Proposed deletion of Sean Michael Lucas


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Washington Nationals
Consensus can change, it has in the past. The earlier merge proposal that you referenced on the Nationals talk page was not filed properly in accordance with WP:MERGE, which clearly says that the discussion should take place at the destination talk page, which I have done. The other discussion took place at the Expos talk page, which may have affected the outcome. Also you failed to give a policy reason for your opposition, since all Merge/deletion discussion are not votes, but are based on wikipedia policy and guidelines its usually customary to list a reason why you are either for or against a particular proposal. If you would like to do so now, it would be appreciated.--Jojhutton (talk) 00:46, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Regina Rams
Thanks for your help, I couldn't have done this without you! Cmm3 (talk) 02:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Roster updates
Please do not add players in the system to the rosters like you did to the Oilers and Kings. Use the official roster list on their websites as guidelines. Roster spots are for players that play on the team. Not players that they have signed and are playing elsewhere. Thanks --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 05:44, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * We do not change rosters until free agents have moved or players have been traded in the offseason. The removing of the UFA and RFA things were a copy edit mistake from me trying to undo the edits. --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 05:58, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Michael Schumacher (ice hockey)
Would you mind requesting the article to be deleted, I feel it's much better to have a red link then a misleading blue link. See discussion here. Regards. —KRM (Communicate!) 22:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

We do not change rosters until free agen
 * Come again? —KRM (Communicate!) 15:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like the person leaving a comment above, started putting it here and didn't fully delete it. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 20:10, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Michael Schumacher (ice hockey)


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NFURs
When writing rationales please do not just copy/paste them changing the article titles. those are not valid rationales. ΔT The only constant 02:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Andy Andreoff


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Brett Ritchie
Just a note that I have undeleted this article per a request at WP:REFUND. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Articles_for_deletion/Brett_Ritchie. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:34, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Dallas Baker
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Red links
Please stop your blanket and indiscriminate removal of red links from articles as you have done at List of Los Angeles Kings draft picks. Many of the red links in that list served to indicated that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable per WP:NHOCKEY. Only remove red links from such lists after you have confirmed that the subject is not verifiably notable. "Good red links help Wikipedia—they encourage new contributors in useful directions, and remind us that Wikipedia is far from finished." Dolovis (talk) 04:23, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Australia 2011 IFAF World Cup roster navbox
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Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlanta Aliens
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Ruslan Salei
Hi. I am sorry to hear he died, just as I am sorry that all of the people died on the flight. I have no dog in this fight. I never heard of any of these people before today. I have been trying to keep track of which Alexander reportedly survived (Galimov or Sizov) -- apparently Galimov is the one who died -- and haven't been keeping track of Salei, except to remove an unregistered user's restoring of the text indicating that he Salei wasn't on the flight, when I know that was disputed. I did not mean to mess around with Salei, but the problem is that there is so much editing, including several instances of vandalism, by unregistered users, that by the time I am updating something another edit has gone through before my update goes through.

I am on your side - I am trying to keep out the OR, speculation, etc. If I deleted something I shoudn't have it was probably due to the above.

By the way -- the list of names add up to 44, not 45, last time I checked (see above), so it appears one name is missing. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 18:34, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

P.S. - Maybe the page should be protected -- limited to registered users only, given the above. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 18:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jordan Nolan


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