User talk:Shougan

Proposed deletion of Taro Achi
Hello, Shougan. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Taro Achi, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Taro Achi to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

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Thanks, Vanjagenije (talk) 21:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

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Yoshiharu Habu
Hi Shougan,

I just wanted to let you know that I am undoing a recent edit you made to the Yoshiharu Habu page. I think the phrasing "studied under" is much more natural sounding and appropriate than "is a disciple of" in this context. I understand that 師匠 and 弟子 can be translated into English as "master" and "disciple", but I think those are too literal to be used in this context. I think it is much more natural sounding in English to use "teacher" and "student" when referring to games such as Chess, Go and Shogi. The word "disciple" has a very strong meaning, sometimes fanatical, that implies a total devotion of one's self to a certain person, philosophy or a way of life. For example, a disciple of Jesus Christ or a disciple of Marx. However, I believe the relationship between Habu and Futagami was more teacher-student. If you want to discuss this more or ask for the opinions of other native English speakers then leave a message on my talk page. Thanks --- Marchjuly (talk) 16:15, 4 January 2014 (UTC)