User talk:Shreshth91/Archive8

This page documents all of the messages I received between 12:53, 4 July 2006 and 14:30, 22 July 2006. For more info, leave me a message on my talk page and I will get back to you. Thanks -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 15:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:ESP/UPA note
Greetings, Shreshth91. The judges would like to announce that the winner for the Esperanza User Page Contest has been chosen. Congratulations to Fir0002  for winning the contest. The winning entry can be found here.

If you'd like to participate in the contest again, check by the contest page in a few days and sign up. See you around.  fetofs  Hello! 12:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * As you put up the note about next round starting etc- am I right in thinking you're signing up to be the overseer for it? (that's fine AFAIK). Petros471 21:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks
Hi Shreshth - many thanks! Being so close to D.C., I'm lucky enough to be able to go see the annual fireworks, which is quite beautiful. This Fire Burns  15:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * In your administrative capacity, I request your attention to this: . Need your help. This Fire Burns   15:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

First half
First half was never used throughout the entirety of the group stage, and though I have been on the page constantly during the duration of the tournament I have never once seen it used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eightball (talk • contribs)

thanks!
Hi Shreshth - thanks! Coincidentally I was thinking that your meticulous and determined efforts for FR/DP/FD and FD-India, stretching 4 PRs, deserves this -




 * P.S. - please have a look at Muhammad Iqbal's FAC. I'm not soliciting your vote, but I do need another input becoz of dear Anwar's objection and the continual reverts by anons. This Fire Burns....Always   05:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yo - reminding you to check Sheikh Mujibur Rahman again. This Fire Burns.....Always   05:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

pls check out
Hi Shreshth - there is a rising issue on the usage of "India-Indian" for different periods in history apart from the Republic of India, please weigh in again here. We're trying to make absolutely sure that there is a general agreement. This Fire Burns.....Always  06:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

FR, DP, and FD of India
Hi Shreshth. You could approach User:Tom Radulovich or User:Taxman for a copyedit. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

FR/FD/DP
Hi,

I see that you have improved these set of articles a lot. Have you thought about nominating the completed set (probably that would require an article on Fundamental Duties) for Featured topics? &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Directive Principles in India

 * Congrats! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph11:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Red link
Junior Science Talent Search Examination ← I want to see this blue. BTW, linking to elections is probably not allowed/frowned at. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

re:Happy First Edit Anniversary Day!
Thank you for your wiki-anniversary wishes! *Eyes sparkle over pretty banner* o_0 Cheers! — The King of Kings  17:04 July 10 '06
 * Same here =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Law
Hi Shreshth, Folks at WikiProject Law might be able to help you with the copyedit. Place a request there for a review and copyedit. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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Mujib FAC
Hi Shreshth - your points have been addressed (I think). Please take another look. I hope you will revisit your opinion on the issue of references. A book is a serious ref, but there are many FAs without book refs (even citations are not a requirement). In the circumstances, Ragib and I have done the very best we can, taking research and study papers, USgov documents and Banglapedia notes. In taking the Awami League as a reference, we've taken great care to leave out POV - as for the source itself, its a major B'desh political party. I will continue to seek out more references, but I hope you understand that we've used only credible references with verifications from cross-checking. This Fire Burns.....Always  16:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * There are now 2 book references (albeit linked thru a website) to the collection of citations. This Fire Burns.....Always   22:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Signature and banner
Hi Shreshth,

First remove the election banner from the top of your user and talk pages.

Now coming to signature. You shouldn't have asked me as I am one of those who prefer the vintage signatures (see mine). Although I am quite tolerant to most signatures (except those that violate WP policies), I must admit that I find some confusion that may result from your signature.

Suppose you warn a vandal. Here's how it would look like:
 * Don't vandalize the foo article. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91

Why would you want the force to be with the vandals. Most of the times you will tell the force to be with genuine editors, but it will send confusing signals to the vandals. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry to interrupt, but strictly in a Star Wars context, its wishing a person well. A vandal today maybe a good user tomorrow. This Fire Burns.....Always   22:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I know. I was just pointing out the funny situation that might arise. It is also likely that the vandal wouldn't know this is part of his signature and feel that Shreshth actually conforms to his views and says MTFBWY. No need to change; just pointing out as Shreshth asked for my feedback on his sig. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Airtel Ad
Hey Shresth, you've got the (copyrighted?) text from the Airtel commercial advertisement on your userpage, but you've Multi-licensed your text contributions into the public domain. Vorpal Blade snicker-snack  18:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Coffee Lounge: Games subpages
Hey! Hope you're well.

I've had a brief attempt at a template to link all of the game pages in the coffee lounge if we decide to create the game subpages- it's here, so feel free to comment on my talk page or on the coffee lounge page, where I've also posted it.

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 17:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've made a minor change; changed the " >>> " to " | ", since it looks better.-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)  17:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, does look better: I had originally thought of using them anyway! Hopefully with the template, the main page will load faster and alleviate any worries about people just coming here to play games (hence the link to the main Esperanza page and coffee lounge).

Thanks for your feedback, anyway!

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 17:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Myanmar article
Do you have any more recommendations or critiques for the Myanmar article? All of your suggestions have been dealt with. Thanks. Hintha 05:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for bothering you, but do you have further recommendations to improve the article? --Hintha 06:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:Ahmedabad
Hi Shreshth - thanks for the nomin. I certainly welcome everybody to chip in, but I also agree with Ambuj's point that perhaps a week-long collaboration should be given for another article that needs this kind of work. Not to be pedantic, but this is Akash's FA-in-waiting. He did most of the work and we're just helping him finetune it. On the article, apart from copyediting if you can get hold of a few books, it would be appreciated. I know its sapped some momentum, but don't give up on FR/DP/FD becoz you're nearly there!

P.S. - I had just fixed your concern on references on Mujibur Rahman with additions from 3 books, but Raul suprised me by making it an FA even as I was addressing your and Shmitra's concerns. This Fire Burns Always  18:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

young admins
Perhaps you are the third youngest? According to the calendar, Sango123 was made an admin on July 2005 and was born in September 1991, so 13 yrs and 10 months. Blnguyen | rant-line 04:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Personal info
This is just a tip, bit i think u shud get rid of ur personal info like age and location; there r alot of sick people on the internet that cud find u. Just some friendly advice. (11987 23:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC))

OK sorry. (11987 16:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC))

For bothering you. (11987 16:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC))

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Coffee lounge
That logout link was a brilliant idea. Keep it like that for a while! -- Steel 14:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Coffelounge Warning
Nice touch Ch ild zy  ( Talk 14:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well at least its not just me that thought the warning we got was un-warrented. Some people.... Ch ild zy  ( Talk 15:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza/Coffee lounge
Thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Coffee lounge, but we are trying to write an encyclopedia here, so please keep your edits factual and neutral. Some readers looking for a serious article might not find them amusing. Remember, millions of people read Wikipedia, so we have to take what we do a bit seriously here. If you'd like to experiment with editing, use the Sandbox to get started. I hope you can help us out!  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  15:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey there, I saw that you reverted my edits on the said page, and warned me using joke. I just wanted to question whether the warning was warranted, since the edit in question was in good faith, and most importantly, not to an actual article, but to the dumb coffee lounge of all pages! Also, the "new messages" bar is such a clichéd joke, that most people check the link before clicking on it. Those who fall for it can always log back in, and there's no harm done. I guess you should lighten up ;) -- May the Force be with you!  Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)  15:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I will accept that there is a difference of opinion - you thought that the practical joke was funny, I did not. The coffee lounge is for fun and games - chess, hangman, etc. The practical joke does have its place and I have seen it multiple times on User pages. I was even fooled by it once or twice and laughed along too! The fun aspect of the practical joke is subjective, as indicated by this correspondance. What might be funny on a User page isn't so funny on a Project page. The joke template was the mildest thing that I could find. I didn't intend any offence by it, as you didn't intend any with the message bar. My mood is very light for the hottest day of the year! Everyone has an opinion as to what is and isn't funny, so there's no point in arguing about it. Regards,  (aeropagitica)   (talk)   16:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza/User Page Award
Hi Shreshth91! You've signed up to be a judge for the Esperanza User Page Award! You'll have three user pages to examine. The user pages you get coincide with your signup number. So if you signed up to be a judge in spot 1 than you will get nominations 1-3. Pick your favorite one, and list it in the finalist section. After all 5 judges have chosen a finalist it's time to award them 1-10 points in the four categories:


 * Attractiveness: general layout, considering colour scheme and/or use of tables if applicable
 * Usefulness: links to subpages or editing aids, helpful information
 * Interesting-ness: quirky, unique, captivating, or funny content
 * General niceness: at the judges' discretion

Please see the Scores section on this page for additional information on your job as a judge.

Keep in mind that your scores are confidential! Email Banes with your scores and final picks. As soon as all the scores have been tallied, a winner will be announced! Thanks. May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 10:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

UPA
Thanks for nominating my page: I was thinking about it anyway! EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 12:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi, thanks for the addition to my userpage. User:Demonicanglian

Castes and Tribes of the Punjab
Hullo. I am asking your opinion on this festering dispute that has developed between myself and Satbir Singh since the past few days.

The facts of the matter are like this:

I created a template called Castes and Tribes of the Punjab with a view to studying the caste and tribal groups that exist in what was the ancient Punjab region (Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (India), Haryana and Himachal Pradesh). My intention, unlike any Ibbetsons, Todds or Cunninghams was to study these groups from a purely anthropological perspective sans any controversy so that people visiting this portal would get to know about the huge mosaic that my province (I am a Punjabi) is.

I started with a few groups. But soon enough the groups began to increase. For the sake of brevity, I grouped them under Categories. As the template evolved, I learnt not to name any category speculatively.

The final categories were:

Brahmin groups. Dalit groups. Jat clans. Khatris and other groups. Rajput clans. Shaikhs and other groups. Tarkhans and other groups. Others (groups to which i could not attribute any specific status). In the last (Others), I also included groups such as Kamboj, Khasa, Ahir and Gujjar. However, Satbir Singh separated them and bunched them under a new category called "Surviving Ancient Kshatriya Tribes".

Since that day, a revert war has been on between the two of us. According to Satbir, these groups such as the Ahirs (the ancient Abhiras), the Gujjars (Gurjaras), the Khas (the Khasas), the Kamboj (Kambojas) and Yadav (Yadavas) are ancient Kshatriya tribes mentioned in a number of ancient Sanskrit texts.

My own personal opinion is that all this is true. However, some points must be noted:

The Varna System is a topic subject to a lot of controversy and dispute. I have been noticing this in recent weeks. Pages such as Khatri, Rajput, Kayastha and Bhumihar have been vandalised because many people don't agree with the Varna status of these groups. If the Ahirs, the Gujjars, the Khasaa, the Kambojas and the Yadavas are Kshatriya groups, then so are the Rajputs, Jats, Khatris, Tarkhans et al. I did not create a category entitled "Kshatriya groups" in the first place because I knew I was treading on soft ground. All the above mentioned castes claim Kshatriya status. But we all know, how disputable these claims are. The rigmarole that is the Varna System is known to us all. For example, the Jats, who in the Vedic and Mythological periods were workers should be placed in the Shudra Category under the Varna System. But many Jats clans consider themselves the equal and perhaps the superior of Rajputs as adhrents of Kshatriya Dharma. My own caste, the Khatris and related groups such as Aroras claim Kshatriya status. But we have seen on the Khatri page as to what became of that claim. Ahirs, Gujjars and Yadavs are considered to be OBCs in most Indian states inspite of their being the descendants of ancient Abhiras, Gurjaras and Yadus. There is a controversy raging on the Yadav page presently if I am not wrong, on the status of the caste. Taking all these points into consideration and being aware of the fact that there are users (say Sanjay Mohan and Holywarrior, who have caused great disputes on various caste pages, I proposed categories such as "Kambojs and related groups" (Kamboj, Kamboja, Kamboh and Khasa) and "Gujjars and realted groups" (Ahirs, Gujjars, Dhangars and Bakarwals). But Satbir Singh and another user named Sze cavalry01 objected to it. They returned to "Ancient Kshatriya Tribes". I did a little compromise by making it "Ancient Warrior Tribes", which I later realised would also be POV. Therefore, I changed it to just "Ancient Tribes" - A completely unspeculative term.

However, Satbir Singh does not agree. He calls it a "gross suppression of known historical facts", "a crime against history" and "a political agenda" and has termed me a "Vandal". I have put forward my points. But both of us are yet to agree.

I have fighting a revert war with him for almost a week now. Have a look at the template's history page and Satbir Singh's talk page to get a complete idea of the whole fracas.

This fight has become downright silly. I surely don't expect myself to spend my time, money and energy on such a silly matter. And I am sure neither does the other party.

Therefore, I urge you to have a look at the whole matter. Whatever is you opinion would be agreeable to me.

Regards. Rajatjghai 04:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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