User talk:Shshshsh/Archive 20

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Shahid change it or I'll do it. You said you;d change it when you hit 20,000  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 23:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I had a look at some of the "lists" yesterday. I seem to average about 3rd or 4th on them! Did you know in the month of May my talk page was the 27th most edited page on the website!!! Why do they construct these lists!! I guess I'm equally guilty for bothering to look at them. Your name was quite high on various lists too. Hope you are well! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 10:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Shahid, I know it was very rude of me to not respond to your previous message but sorry about that!! I AM JUST SO BUSY THESE DAYS!! I ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO TIME TO DO ANYTHING!! Every day, I wake up at 6:00 AM in the morning to go to work and come back around 8:00-9:00PM. When I come back, I have no energy to do anything. I just revert some vandalism and go to bed as I have to wake up early the next day. Please don't feel that I am leaving all the work to you!! I seriously don't have much time these days!! Don't worry!! We can take Kapoor's article slowly!!! I'll try my level best to work on it. If you don't have time, don't work on the article. Just work on it when you have time!! (P.S. I am going to go take a shower right now and will try to take a look at Kapoor's article after that.) Best Regards -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  01:07, 28 June 2008

15 hour work days at McDonald's? My, somebody should give Mr. Ronald a whack on his nose for overworking his staff. I'd be whacked doing that day in day out  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 12:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah buddy, I have seen the stills of Heaven on Earth!! It looks like a really poweful role!! I am glad that Zinta is reinventing herself these days!! It just goes to show how great of an actress she really is. (BTW, Blofeld, I don't work 15 hrs a day at McDonald's. I'd die if I did!! LOL.. I work two different jobs hence it pretty much takes up the whole day!! :( By the time I get home, I am dead and out of energy!!!) -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  20:42, 28 June 2008

I know I was kidding. I'm wondering why you;ve gone all "bold" (bald lol) font all of a sudden  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Ilary Blasi Hot? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 10:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuch Meetha Ho Jaye
Hi. re your removal of prod from this article - yes, IMDB is reliable, but it doesn't imply notability - WP:MOVIE states "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.

This guideline includes published works such as books, television documentaries, full-length featured newspaper articles from large circulation newspapers, full-length magazine reviews and criticism excluding the following:
 * Media reprints of press releases, trailers, and advertising for the film.[1]
 * Trivial coverage, such as newspaper listings of screening times and venues, "capsule reviews," plot summaries without critical commentary, or listings in comprehensive film guides such as "Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide," "Time Out Film Guide," or the Internet Movie Database.

or in other words, IMDb verifies that the film exists, but doesn't supply notability for the film - that's why I tagged it as prod. Yes, there are lots of films like this on WP, which may or may not qualify for deletion, but I can only do them one at a time :-) CultureDrone (talk) 15:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

✅ I've added a reliable source in the article. Though this has been addressed, the article needs more expansion. Mspraveen (talk) 17:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Bollywood
hi. when i edited that article and added that it is the largest producer in the world in terms of number of films produced why did you delete that cause its true mate you may even click the source link beside that link. Thanks and please correct me if im wrong.Raghav016 (talk) 06:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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Hey buddy, I got out early from work today thus I had some time to work on Kapoor's article. Regarding the JWM image, I don't find it blurry... It might just be a temporary problem!! I don't know what image to put. Initially Blofeld had put but it looks like Shahid is the one that is talkative and full of life. LOL. is not bad though I like the one that is already on the article! If you find another image that is better than the one that is already on the article, I would be happy to replace it. Best Regards -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  20:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Kareena Kapoor
I'm sorry Shahid but I wondered why you didn't want to speak to me about it. You do have a way at times, unintentionally I'm sure of emphasising my limited knowledge of Indian cinema whether directly or indirectly to the point I feel subdued at editing an article incase I "get it wrong". I get the impression on many occasions you think, thats good editing Blofeld but why are you bothering to edit an article you know nothing about. You have zilch knowledge of Bollywood, therefore how can you improve it? Then when I try to make a suggestion on how to improve it or to organize an article or get something going as a group, I repeatedly get the message that I am unaware, or have no idea, I know nothing about it, or you seem surprised when I know a film like Dhoom 2 is a blockbuster. However much I try to help, there will always be that barrier. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 21:33, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello!!! I agree my friend. I would love to know more about Bollywood!!! This is why I try to see as many clips as I can on youtube, whether they are only ten minute clips or not and try to cover as many Bollywood articles as I can because I want to learn about them. There are so many films though!!! that there are always films I come across which I've never heard of!!! I would love for you to educate me more, I always greatly appreciated your messages before about certain films and actresses like Hema Malini and sharing your great knowledge of it. I know you always appreciate my work and copy editing and efforts at trying to help the Bollywood articles, but being honest I often feel a little out of sorts because I am not Indian and am not in a socirty where Bollywood dominates. It is kind of a limitation to what I can do in this department. This is why I deeply appreciate you sharing stuff with me and communicating on such articles so I don't make any major errors in judgement in the future. Now Best Regards  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:54, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I've created more Bollywood articles than anyone, really? Wow I didn't know that what about that Haphr guy I thought he would have created more!!! Well its kind of a hope that Indians who use wikipedia will expand them and soon enough we have half decent articles on each film. WHat we really want is several thousand GAs!!! Given the size of India and the many who speak English you;d expect there to be more active Indian cinema editors other than those who are here to vandalize or treat it as a fan site. Sorry if I seemed to have boomed at you, I just wanted to find a way to discuss and plan the next stages of the developing it as a group as I think eventually it could be developed to FA and we need to begin to evaluate how to achieve this (including a peer review). I think it is already GA level. I haven't read the article again yet fully today, but it seems you have made many wise decisions on cutting down the waffle. But there is a fine line between a fully informative and comprehensive article and one which resembles a Birdseye Potato Waffle and is not as comprehensive as it should be. Now I have finished ranting at you, can you give Mr Bigglesworth a pat on the back and forgive the Bald One for making you feel as if you've committed an error. Sometimes I think too much about planning and how to develop something that my Bald head forgets to be sensitive to everybody. All the best amigo and please keep me posted!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 22:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Wimbledon
Wow did you see the mens final? Thats how tennis should be! When I was growing up it was always Sampras and his aces, his matches were always pretty boring and one sided and always based on serve. Its great to see a proper battle!. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 20:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi how are you? Whats keepin you so busy huh? Yes it was the best match I've ever seen. Read the news on it everybody seems to agree. I'm gradually getting back into editing films and actors again which I had intended to do this year but have spent ages trying to get Africa and much of Asia and Latin America off to a start. I've been looking through some of the films and biographies. The state on so many major films amazes me, I haven't seen any change in all the areas I've looked at since Christmas. You;d think the global size of wikipedia they'd all be up to at least a start class level. Although the number of people who casually use wikipedia is huge, the amount of active editors is unfortunately extremely low. I guess not many people like working on something which doesn't pay,  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 17:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thats exactly why I seem to spend some days on here and I'm away for others, or my editing seems spaced out of late. I try to edit as much as I can, but I need some money for living on!! Do you reckon I should get hold of Bollywood DVDs in bulk and sell them on ebay for a profit? This way I'd be getting some money for it and also increasing the number of Bollywood films out there in the UK!!! I've found an American website which sells them in lots of 50. I wonder whether I could sell them....  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 10:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

LOL I didn't mean as a sole income LOL. Just for some extra cash. I don't know I'd have to see usually they are expensive to buy on ebay. If I could get hold of some cheap in bulk from elsewhere and sell them off at a resonably good price I'd make a fair bit on them. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 12:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, sounds a bit awkward in terms of structure and repetition. What about something like: The film, set in contemporary urban Mumbai focuses on the life routine of affluent Indian youth, exploring a major period of transition in the lives of three young friends.[22] Zinta starred as Aamir Khan's love interest, Shalini. According to critics, the film broke new ground by illustrating the reality of Indian youth in the city today. Despite being well received critically however, it was only a moderate box office success overall. It performed well in Indian cities but failed in the rural areas, which critics attributed to the urban-oriented lifestyle depicted in the film. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 15:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Contemporary may refer to: Modern times in its generic sense, living, occurring, or existing, at the same time; often also used as a synonym for "modern"  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 15:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Change it then. LOL I'm wondering why you're still thinking about writing an article which is already FA you perfectionist you!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 16:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Dunno, depends on whether it was successful in cities all across the world or not. Hey I've begun developing 1950s Bollywood by year

"a moderate box office success in India; it performed well in the major cities but failed in the rural areas". SHould be fine. The only thing is isn;t this normal that a film does well in the cities and not so well in rural areas? Isn't it true that Bollywood films win most of their taking in the cities, I remember exmaning the Bollywood films in America which also seemed this way with "failure" in the countryside. Yes I added 1950 for now. I'll add the titles of the others gradually  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 17:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 17:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey buddy, sorry for the late reply!! I didn't add the Verve magazine list of influential women from India; someone else did! I wanted to go through this with you too as I wasn't sure about it. The reason I expanded the 06 paragraph a bit is because Blofeld says that we should equally focus on her success (notable films) and her failures (non-notable films). I didn't go that much into depth but gave a very brief description about them. Blofeld told me the same about her 2001 films, indicating that only MKKH, Asoka & K3G were given footage due to the films giving her commercial success or critical acclaim. However, Yaadein & Ajnabee were not even talked about much. Therefore, he added the thing about Yaadein being critcized for its script and etc. Do you think we should add a brief synopsis or a small description of her roles in those two films? Also one more things.. from all the reviews I looked for Chameli.. the film did receieve pre-dominantly positive reviews. I was thinking of adding at least that part back. -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  17:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the long explanation!! LOL :) Anyways, I think that the article has improved a lot and majority of the sections are well-written. The only section that needs to be worked upon is the "In the media" section. I would really appreciate it if you can help me think of ways to rewrite it, something along the lines of how it is written on Preity Zinta and Angelina Jolie's pages. BTW, have you watched Thoda Pyaar Thoda Magic, Love Story 2050 and Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na?? -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  01:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * After we re-write the "In the media" section and a peer-revier, I think it would be safe enough to nominate the article for a GA!! I haven't seen any new films recently as I have been really busy these days!! The last new movie I saw was Tashan. LOL!! This weekend will be a movie catch-up day for me, as I will probably watch Jaanat, TPTM, LS2050, JTYJN & Jaanat!!! Rani is a really good actress but I feel sorry for the way her carrer is going right now. After 2005, things started going downhill for her and now that TPTM is a flop, things are not looking up for Ms. Mukerji. I really hope she bounces back!! As for Bebo's next release, it will be Roadside Romeo and Golmaal Returns, both of which release on October 24, 2008. BTW, what's up with you these days?? -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  02:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Filmfare Best Actor
I am sorry you think I am inserting POV comments, but don't you agree that there is a difference between 7 or 8 wins and 3 or 4? As it is, drawing the line at 3 wins seems arbitrary-- POV, if you will-- to me. Shouldn't there be some sort of delineation between multiple winners and frequent winners? Once again, apologies if you think I inserting my point of view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.115.38 (talk) 05:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Bollywood lists
Hi I'm making good progress on the lists I've reached 1957 now but ideally we need people to work on a year of Hindi cinema at a time and standardize existing articles and add missing ones. What I want is to have a summary of each year of Bollywood at the top of each page, e.g a summary of what films won the most notable awards, the highest grossing etc or any events that occurred in the calendar. Do you think you could have a go at summarising some of them? I had wanted to make them the "years in Bollywood film" like we have with 1956 in film etc etc. I thought you'd be interested in having a specialized Bollywood coverage ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 11:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes but it is the same with the Oscars isn't it. ET in 1982 etc. Often the best films aren't the ones that reap all the awards. COuld you point me to a reliable site that list the top gorssers of each year too? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 12:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Do I use the gross or nett gross figure? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 12:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't completely trust those figures anyway and in the english speaking world rupees and the unusual fugure system with two and three digits is hard to follow anyway. I'll just list them as the top ten recorded earners  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 12:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

OK I've begun doing Bollywood films of 1950. I think I'll probably add a notes columns to fill out the gap. OK? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 12:49, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry I'll try to get them blue linked and fill in each gap  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 12:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Thats over 500 Bollywood edits in succession in two days!! Its starting to take shape. If I spent time dedicated to Bollywood rather than worrying about everything on here I'd get things moving quickly! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 20:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The reason I nominated it for a GA is because good new articles like 2002 Bou'in-Zahra earthquake reached a GA within several days of creation and was up for FA candidacy in just 10 days. There appears to be different expectations for what is expected of a GA. For Indian cinema is seems hard to achieve but in other subjects seems very straightforward. There is absolutely no reason why you should feel stressed. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 09:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh sorry if you felt pressured to improve it quickly!! Its just when I see articles reaching GA within four days of creation I kind of get itchy to promote a several year old article!!! There shouldn't be any problems from what I can see anyway. It is annoying how some articles are revieweed immediately while others you have to wait months  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 10:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Whats the matter with her? She looks tired and ill. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 13:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I know. Compare this to this for instance. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 13:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I had a huge crush on her in the 1990s when I was a teenager, you know the type I like with the blue eyes and chesnut coloured hair. I was shocked to see that image too! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 13:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

The thing is lots of women who are "stunning" in the media as they appear in films or on the catwalk and high profile events look rather less attractive without the makeup and the gloss. Even Shania looks less stunning in her daily routine without makeup and wearing casual clothes. Some women can still look stunning without the gloss, the true natural beauties, but there are few women who can look equally as good without any make up whatsoever. The thing is it is quite normal for even the most attractive women to have off days when they look washed out or jaded, I;ve seen pictures of even Halle Berry looking pretty average. The problem is because the media is used to seeing them as nothing less than perfect, they have a field day picking up on it. There are countless magazines here in the UK which are dedicated to bringing down female icons and slagging them off without make up or in bad clothes, not nice is it. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 14:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, in fact I prefer women with light makeup rather than caked in it. Katie Price for one looks better with less make up I think. Tabu the actress seems great doesn't she? BTW I've started watching Mother India all the way through. They have the entire film on youtube in 16 parts. Shame there isn't english subtitles  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 14:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah Shahid!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am nervous yet excited!! Do you think it will pass?? :- I -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  01:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I've have only just started watching Mother India. I can see already that it is a classic. I'll watch it is parts, so I'll finish watching part 1 now. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 10:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I've seen the croc scene before. Thats Kabir Bedi on the boat isn't it. I've just bene listening to some classic country music on youtube. You like Emmylou Harris? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 13:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes you showed me that clip before and the after clip. Oh I know Kabir Bedi as Gobinda in Bond and I've also seen him in The Bold and the Beautiful. Aside from this he has appeared on TV in the UK on numerous occasions. He's supposed to be big in Italy I think  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 17:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Bevvy of Beauties
Wow Shahid isn't she hot!!! Thats one hot Venezuelan Miss Universe!

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 14:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

No. Have a look at User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Blofeld's Angels of Death. Prepare to be stunned! Note this was the name for the girls in On Her Majesty Secret Service  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Boo hoo they;ve deleted the lovely Venezuelan ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank You
Hey Shahid, there is good news buddy!! Yesterday, Kareena Kapoor's article was promoted to a GA and it's all thanks to your and Blofeld's help!! Thanks for all your help on the article!! Best Regards --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 01:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words friend!! I know that bringing Kapoor's article to a GA level was my belief but you and Blofeld have played a big hand in bringing the article to the place it is today. :) Blofeld was suggesting that "with a fair bit of development", Kapoor's article could go all the way. I would really like that to happen but as of now, I am happy that the article is a GA. Let's see what the future has in store. Just like you, I am really happy to see the way Indian articles are shaping up. I am glad that they are improving!! It just goes to show that with hard work and determination, nothing is impossible!! Best Regards --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 16:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bother you buddy but I needed to go through something with you. Remember, I told you that I wanted to rewrite Kapoor's "In the media" section... well yesterday.. I came up with a brief intro to that section. Here it is: ("Although Kapoor made her acting debut in 2000 in the film Refugee, coming from a film oriented family, she was introduced to the media at a very young age. As a teenager, Kapoor used to attend award functions with her mother Babita and sister Karisma Kapoor, as well as accompany her sister on her shooting schedules. Known in the media for openly talking about her on-screen or off-screen life, Kapoor quickly became a tabloid's favorite when she entered the film industry in 2000.") - This is just a rough sketch of what I am planning to add. What do you think of it?? --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 17:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do!!! --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 17:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for the explanation!!! That's why before I added it to the article, I wanted to go through it with you and Blofeld. There are many sources but I used this and this as my main sources. --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 18:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, no.. LOL.. the first source that I provided was to show that she was introduced to the media at a very young age, such as when she accompanied her sister on her shooting schedules. The second source is to show about the tabloid's favorite part.. :))) --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, no.. check out the edit history. I didn't get the "since" part thus I added "over the past several years". :) --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 18:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Shahid, add whatever you think is appropriate for the article. I have no problems!! I have noticed that instead of telling each other what to add, it is easier to add it by yourself and let other people fix it afterwards. LOL ;))) --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 18:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

That sounds good Shahid. I can see though Rahul is upset by me editing the article. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Here is the new evidence to suggest that acting is not a taboo. In an interview with her father in Encyclopedia Britannica, remember that notable book I said about before see this. Her father is directly asked whether it is a family taboo and he says it isn't only that acting and domesticity are not compatible.:

Due to family tradition, her father insisted that she married early and avoid acting. According to an interview with her father, Randhir Kapoor, the problem was not acting itself, given that both he and his brother married well-known actress as did their uncles. Rather, her father's concerns arose from the purported incompatibility between acting and the maternal duties and responsiblity of women in the family. "When you get married and want a family, acting is a very tough life. Beneath all the tinsel and glamour it is a lot of very hard work. Women cannot do full justice to their film careers and motherhood at the time same".