User talk:Shshshsh/Archive 24

Thank you, friend
Ahh I'm extremely sad that you won't be here. I am going to miss you a great deal. Your words echo mine and what I think of you exactly, I can't really think of what to say. Please email me though as you did say you would when you were leaving. All the best for the future and please try to stay in contact when you can by email and on wikipedia when you can. Best wishes for everything and best of luck for the future, whatever it may hold. Tear tear LOL. Count Blofeld  17:34, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh I thought you had gone? Half of those articles were on my watch list anyway. Just try to look in when you can. Don't do a Pa7 whatever you do! Count Blofeld  21:21, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

"Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna" Dost!!! Hum "Phir Milenge"!!! LOL. Thank You very much for your really kind and thoughtful words. What makes it more special is the time you took to write this heart-warming message. Over these past years, we have become really good friends and I will miss you a lot. Words cannot express the respect and gratitude I have for you!! Hope to see you soon :(( Wish you all the best for the future!! Please come back and visit!! Best Regards --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 03:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow that was a short break! Count Blofeld  17:28, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I know I'm sorry about that. Look after yourself. Oh I am tired of more editors I encounter on here than I like, almost everyday, most of the time with Wp:Films as you well know who have never appreciated the work or suggestions I have to improve it except one or two like Nehrams and Lugnuts. Most of the editors I come across are either as dull as dish water or/and are set in their ways, or are stuck up and pretend they are lawyers and try to rule over people. Most of the people who I try to make an effort with never return the kindness and don't appreciate my help or have a distinct lack of a personality to want to talk to me. Thats why people like you, Rahul, Albert, Editor, Callio, Travelling cari etc and a small amount of others are so valuable to me. Count Blofeld  17:42, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey I found a way to get content onto here quickly for Bollywood films. See Bollywood films of 1970 ,Bollywood films of 1971 and Bollywood films of 1972 No red links now! Thats about 150 Bollywood film article started in just a few minutes! I think I'm going to start Blofeld botting films by year at the rate of five a minute and then adding the details afterwards. It seems to be a very efficient way of doing it. Oh I also like Mumtaz (actress), seems like a beautiful woman. Count Blofeld   13:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

nana patekar
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sukh#Urdu_scripts azimsultan (talk) 00:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Good News :))
Hey Shahid, I just found out that Zinta\s article will be featured on Wikipedia's Main Page on December 23, 2008!! Time to rejoice and have a party!! :)) --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 01:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Come back NOW The Bald One       White cat 22:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I miss you very much! I;ve started Bollywood films of 1970 all films, and 1971 and 1972 too! About 250 new articles? This week I think I'm just going to start all of the 1970s films in the lists to rid of those ugly red links! I;ve filled in Bollywood films of 1977 anyway. Today I've been developing the Michael Crichton article from crap status. He was such a brilliant writer and so clever! Shame he died. Hope you are well  The Bald One       White cat 23:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I do but my camera doesn't do very good pictures of the computer screne, I've tried it before. You will see it but it won't be of high quality  The Bald One       White cat 11:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Shahid, today is the day that we all have been dreaming of, especially you. I have taken an image of the Main Page featuring Zinta's article as "Today's featured article". Hope you like it!! :)) Best Regards --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 02:38, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * CONGRATULATIONS! Universal Hero (talk) 12:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey Shahid! good job on the Preity Zinta article! So proud of you man, btw User:Ashiwin sent his regards to you too bro, take care aite =) kotak kasut 14:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, congrats!!! wow...--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Gorgeous women
Uploaded this from flickr. Don't you think it looks like Aishwarya Rai with Sarah Alexander? The Bald One      White cat 18:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
 Hello Shshshsh! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from  The Bald One       White cat 11:22, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year
All the best Shahid, hopefully you won't incur nay more of my monkeybrained errors.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 05:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe you didn't even stop by and just say happy christmas or happy new year of something. I find this absense very peculiar, particularly as you promised you'd inform of what you were doing. You will be missed. The Bald One      White cat 17:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hope you are well. The other day I started 350 Bollywood films in one day, the 1970s. I now have 200/350 remaining to fix but I'll have them done soon enough. The Bald One      White cat 18:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * You're most welcome my dear friend!! Hope you are doing well!! Looking forward to hear from you again!! Come back and visit more often!! :) (P.S. Happy New Year and Merry Belated Christmas!!) Best Regards --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 20:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello, amazing I was only just thinking about you. I was going to tell you I've been making loads of flickr agremeents and just got us some nice ones of Shania Twain!! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:24, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Life has been great!! I am currently tied up with University though I try to come on as frequently as possible. How are you?? BTW, have you seen Slumdog Millionaire?? The film has been doing really well all over the world and is receiving numerous awards. --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 02:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)



How to use this top Indian Wikipedian list for effective collaboration
Hi, I have added a section 'How to use this list for effective collaboration' on User:Tinucherian/Indians WP page to see if we can put this list to really good use, pl give your thoughts on the same and we can take it further from there. Thanks. Vjdchauhan (talk) 18:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

Shah Rukh Khan
Hey Shahid. Sorry but I got to dig up the whole Shah Rukh name issue again. Shah Rukh appeared on the talk show 'Oye! its Friday' on 17/1/09 and stated that he writes his name as two separate words 'shah' meaning prince and 'rukh' meaning face or direction. he also mentioned that several Parsis in Mumbai use it as a single word, but he doesn't and that his name has Persian origins. Let's wait to see if there is further discussion on this issue (i know there have been several in the past) But now that he has explained how he spells it himself on national television and even given a lengthy explanation for it, this matter should be resolved. watch the interview in 10 parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0utZ3dZIGKo --Sayitaintsojoe (talk) 18:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

New topic
Well, now that Slumdog Millionaire is a huge success and is winning countless awards, many people make it seem like India has made the film. I am not saying that this is a bad thing. As a matter of fact, all of us are really happy that the film has been nominated for 10 Academy Awards and furthermore, AR Rahman being the first Indian to win a Golden Globe for his work. However, I tend to agree with what Mukesh Bhatt said in his recent interview: "I am sure if it was an Indian film, no one would have taken it to such a distance for the awards. People out there are very clear; they won't give any of our own movies any such recognition. However, when they come to our soil and make movies, they give it all the recognition." As for the Star Screen Awards, it indeed was very disappointing to see Ms. Chopra win for Best Actress!! Out of all the actresses that were nominated, I felt that Kajol should've won it. I haven't seen Jodhaa Akbar yet so I don't really know how Aish performed in the film. Priyanka, Asin & Genelia were okay in their respective films. BTW, have you heard the latest rumour about Ms. Chopra having a possibility of winning the National Film Award for Best Actress?? I can't believe that people are making that big of a deal of her performance in the film!! When you have time, read this interesting article It talks about the "dirty truth" behind the film awards in India. On a more lighter note, out of all the near forthcoming releases, I am really looking forward to watch Luck by Chance; Farhan Akhtar made an impressive debut in Rock On!! I am also looking forward to watch Delhi-6!! That's about it for now!!! What about you?? --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 19:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

You seem to be coming back more regularly now? How are things? What did you think of Slumdog? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 16:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I haven't, not yet but I've long considered Danny Boyle as one of the best British directors. but I haven't seen critics rave about a film like this for ages. It will be a huge success eventually. Isn't it funny how many of the low cost art house productions starring relatively unknown actors end up being the most critically acclaimed! I wonder how Dev Patel will cope with it, I bet he never expected to be brought to world film attention like this! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 17:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Luck by Chance has been getting pretty good reviews by critics though the audiences reaction towards the films is quite mixed. While some say that the movie is really good, others have gone on to say that it is really boring. LOL. Anyways, I definitely plan to watch the movie regardless what others have to say about it. I'll judge the film for myself after watching it, which will probably be over the weekend. BTW, check out the nominations for this year's Stardust Awards. Ms. Zinta is nominated in the Best Actress category for her performance in The Last Lear!! Usually, they only have a couple of people nominated in each category but this year they have as much as 10 nominations in one category. LOL. They have also invented some "new" categories as well. --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 17:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Most of the award categories already have their own respective pages. However, some of them don't such as Hottest Young Filmmaker, Exciting New Face, etc. We could create separate pages for these awards though we don't know "all" of the winners in these respective categories. There isn't an official site for the Stardust Awards like how they have one for the Filmfare Awards, where they have the list of the winners for each year. Anyways, forget about this. LOL. Today is Ms. Zinta's birthday!! The talented lass is turning 34!! I have to admit. The more older she gets, the more beautiful she looks!! :) Wouldn't you agree?? --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 04:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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Snow
Its snowing!!!!! Yeah! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 21:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Funny how you claim to have gone, but don't respond. The moment I edit that article suddenly you come. It has proved something to me. It is also funny how you consider claims that suggest that Bollywood films are shown everywhere in Africa. There are some dreadful generalisations in this article which are really are not good to read. That would appear utterly unencyclopedic to me not referenced material from a book on changing cultures which clearly has some relevance even if the Caucasian thing isn't completed true. Sorry but you keep protecting an article which has major flaws in it Shahid and it is difficult to evne begin to try to address them. The article is very poorly written and the information just doesn't flow, its constructed by haphazard sentences some of which are in complete disorder and disorganisation. Martinee's additions were not blatant acts of vandalism or intended lies as you described, it was an attempt to improve the understanding of the article which written sources can verify to some degree. It seems you will believe what you want to believe and try to mould the article into one that suits you. A great deal of the content on Bollywood "in the world" seems to have some underlying agenda, to me it looks as if the article is trying to prove to me that Bollywood is more successful in many parts of the world than is actually the truth. It looks to me as if somebody is trying to promote the industry and how it is massively distributed throughout the world rather than in more regionalised cinemas or within diaspora communities in the main cities. Now if I know you correctly I am certain this is not what you intended and I know you have tried hard to make things as neutral as you can in the past, so I am wondering why some of the more misleading generalisations exist!!. Have a good day wherever in the world you happen to be. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 22:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that I have these articles on my watchlist and it follows the same pattern everyday!! Additions, mostly rubbish, revert, addition, wrong, revert etc etc. It has become kind of a dead end cycle just scouting the history of the article is quite something!!. I know you have always done a lot of great work in shutting out lemon edits but me thinks it really is time that this article was developed properly and advanced. I didn't mean to sound harsh, but think of it as some sort of wake up call in that I think it was high time the article was written more formally and to a higher level to get out of this deadlock. Its been in no mans land for many months. Days go by and nobody really makes an effort to improve it adequately. I miss your contributions and talks on here a lot, shame you can't be here as oftne as you used to. Now somebody has to devleop this article and me thinks you aint got the time to edit. What say whenever you log in we draw up a plan together that we are both happy with the greatly improve this article. What do you think? Anyway don't be angry with me for speaking my mind about the article but seriously mate something needs to be done about it!! I guess you haven't got time. If I make an effort to try to improve it, do you think we can make some headway with it? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 23:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I know mate. Yes I wish you were here to speak to about it and work together on it and iit is very frustrating to see the same pattern on my watchlist. I have to go now anyway but I think we should change it!!! Take care Hasta luego! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 23:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I know!! LOL Now Karina Kapoor would be notable to me (only because I've worked on her article, I know she hasn't had much acclaim) but none of the others - to me it looks like the guy is into pretty faces not the best or most acclaimed actresses!! Shall we include Koena Mitra too because she is quite sexy? Hehe. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 17:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL. What do you mean? Koena Mitra is a brilliant actress, far more prominent than even Rekha or Hema Malini, India's most acclaimed actress!! (Heheh). Did you hear about the baby born with 12 fingers and 12 toes? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

What I'm going to do is compile a list of sources that could be used to improve the article on the Bollywood talk page and then I will gradually try to imporve the article when I have time. Some of the sources may be better than others but I will try to see what I can find. Take care  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is getting very irritating I agree. I'll ask Moodridden girl (who now helps protect the Clint Eastwood articles) to keep an eye on him. I know Keeper76 had it on his watchlist before. I've found a book here, but the best thing that could happen to the articles would be to get hold of 3 or 4 books about it and write a scholarly article on it. BTW I now have the book on Shania Twain. Haven't edited it much yet but check out the Eileen Twain section and some of her earlier life. You can tell which parts I;ve edited on it!! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Gwens cool, if not a little weird but not Kylie or Kate Bush!! Kylie can look very fit at times but not her music LOL!! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh LOL duh. I see! Well ideally I would use a couple of books, I only have the one! Theres a great amount in there that could probably be used to get Mutt Lange up to GA status and a lot on Bryan Adams too,  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hes making life tough for himself, Martinee tried to create a sock account User talk:Glitzman. What a fool! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 19:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Re
Hello my dear friend. Lately, I have been very busy with University and was unable to respond back to your message. IMO, Preity Zinta and Hema Malini do share common similarities and it doesn't surprise me that the industry refers to her as Basanti. LOL. Over the past 11 years that Ms. Zinta has been in the industry, she has tremendously improved in every category, be it the way she presents herself to the media or her film choices. There's no denying the fact that she will be greatly remembered when she decides to quit Bollywood, which IMO should never happen. LOL :)) If all these great actresses leave the industry, who will the audience watch? Honestly, IMO, after Vidya Balan/Konkona Sen Sharma, and to some extent Kangana Ranaut, no actress comes close to the elegance and screen presence that the older actresses had. Actresses like Nargis, Nutan and Mumtaz from the earlier days were truly the eternal divas. Then followed actresses like Rekha, Hema Malini, Jaya Bachchan, Dimple Kapadia, who further enhanced the prospect of "beauty with brains". Madhuri Dixit, Karisma Kapoor and Kajol were my favorite actresses in the 90s; then came Aishwarya Rai, Rani Mukerji and Preity Zinta. Kareena seems to be following in these footsteps too!! Nowadays, actresses are heavily depending on their looks to get into the industry, which really saddens me. Gone are the days, where talent was appreciated more than beauty!! :(( --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 03:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Nonfree replaceable images
The fact that nonfree content is not being followed elsewhere, or that it was not caught during the FAC, is not relevant. Please see the nonfree content restrictions, especially #1 on replaceable nonfree content. Nonfree images are not allowed when they are replaceable. The subject of the article is Preity Zinta. We have free images of her in abundance. We need not use nonfree ones to show every aspect of her life, when we can easily show what she looks like using free material. If cleanup is needed elsewhere, then that will get done as well, but "Don't start here" or "Nonfree content gets misused elsewhere too" are not valid arguments, just statements of a larger problem. Finally, it is not necessary to discuss or reach consensus on removal of inappropriate nonfree content, as consensus cannot override the nonfree content policies in any case. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't Seraphim. User:Black Kite is one of our most dedicated editors to ensuring we comply with copyright and even he said that one or two screenshots of actors in films which are irreplaceable can be claimed for fair use and a free alternative isn't available. If it was an image of the actress herself then yes indeed we caouldn't claim fair use as it is irresplaceable but commentrary on an actors performance given by the image in relation to the text is certainly not irreplaceable. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 19:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The subject is a person, not a movie. For illustrating the person, we have free images. It certainly may be correct that if we have an article about the movie, the screenshots may be usable there. "Replaceable" means "Do we have free images of the subject?", not "Do we have free images of everything the subject's ever done?" In this case, the answer is a clear yes. Perhaps the free image of her receiving a movie award could be used in the movie section? Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Seriously Seraphin you are illustrating to me a seriously bad understanding about film and actors. "Do we have free images of everything the subject's ever done?" In this case, the answer is a clear yes???? What are you talking about? You think we have free images available of her identifying her when she is performing in her career, which is overwhelmingly what the article is about, an actress in films? Yes we have a few images of her outside films but these images cannot be used for critical commentary on her work inside films or noablt performances which the article discusses. How do you think we can obtain free images of copyrighted productions?. See Cillian Murphy, which also has a free image, a limited amount of fair use images are used in this too and in many other articles of this genre. Both are featured articles and yes both articles have undergone much scrutiny about fair use image use in the past. Even some of the copyright paranoics I've come across in the past think sometimes one or two fair use screenshots can be used within copyright law. Actors are the center of these films and actors and films go hand in hand. When actors appear in films they ar epart of the property of that film and you can't provide an adquate discussion of an actor without somehow describing their work. In this case it happens that a limited amount of screenshots which have full rationales for their use are improving an understanding of the article in key moments in the actors career. Please lets not go into this discussion again, somebody please provide the ANI discussion we have back in November 2007 or whatever it was. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 13:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly. And WP:NFCC clearly says - "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" - meaning - screenshots and images that show her during her film performance. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Firstly, you are welcome to ask for admin help if you so desire. It's the job of admins to enforce policies, including nonfree content, which is what I'm doing. I'll also note that there is a discussion on the talk page, which you despite your multiple reverts have not thus far seen fit to join, so it is rather odd that you accuse me of refusing to discuss. Also please note that the 3RR does not apply to removal of NFC violations, only reinsertions of them, so the reference to edit warring seems similarly unusual. Finally, we have images which have the same effect&mdash;illustrating what the article's subject looks like. We don't need a photo of her during every moment of her life to do that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * These do, however, violate #1, as they are replaceable. We can show what she looks like using other images, we can explain that she is an actress using text alone. I'm happy to discuss this to a reasonable degree, as I'd like you to understand why they're being removed, but they're going to be removed. The outcome is not malleable here, NFC requirements are not open to discussion. If you need further clarification as to replaceability I'll be happy to provide it. Your explanation is incorrect, so it really doesn't matter if you've provided it, the images are demonstrably replaceable by having already been replaced. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Zinta
Hi Shahid I'm very bust at the mo with Mali regions, I'll have a look at Zinta later. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 19:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes she is, but couldn't stand the choice of song though! Like the sort of corny melodramatics songs like "I can't live without you, everyday I feel in disarray since you left me. My hearts breaks weep weep etc LOL. teenage girl style. SOunds like a cross between the Backstreet Boys and Enrique Iglesias LOL.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Replace it with this and that video would be better! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 20:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Damn this woman is hot!. SO is just sooo sexy. I've been watching her interview Beckham, she is amazing, brings back memories of my last trip to Italy. God I remember the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen physically walk onto to my bus on the way from from Sorrento to Amalfi. I could not take my eyes off of her. She had on this gorgeous tan suede jacket and boots, the most stunning long dark chesnut colored hair like something from a hair shampoo advert LOL. So clean and silky. Eyes that looked like deep pools of rich luxurious melting chocolate... So just ..... WOW!  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 19:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Si. Muy romantico. I'm a Taurus, Taurus's are alpha romantics and sensual! Average? Probably about 27 or 28. A lot of my sisters friends married in the last year or so I'd say about 27 or 28. There are of course some who get married very young, most end in divorce unfortunately. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 21:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Its amazing but I think I tick the boxes on all of the traits given at Taurus (astrology)!! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 21:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello my dear friend!! How are you? You seem to be editing quite frequently these days!! :) Hope all is well!! Regards --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 18:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Great. Admittedly I do like Susan Sarandon, I was only thinking after seeing her on Graham Norton how cool she is. Shes not the most stunning woman to grace the planet by a long way but she definately has something about her that is attractive. LOL she looks how you'd expect if you crossed an Irishman with an Italian woman, red hair, brown eyes LOL. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 17:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Certainly helps with the film being Canadian and the Toronto contacts in gaining recognition. Good to see she is interested as an actress as a form of art, not just a pretty face in a standard Blockbuster. The "flexibility" description is certainly ringing true and should shut up people like Martinee James who think she is not talented. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 17:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)