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Administrators' newsletter – November 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

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Page move request 31
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Phyzelaphryne back to its species page at Phyzelaphryne miriamae? With the addition of Phyzelaphryne nimio in 2018, this genus is now no longer rercognised as monotypic. The species page is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Once you have completed the move, I will re-write Phyzelaphryne as a stub genus article. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 22:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 01:36, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, and another one: Calyptocephalella gayi to its monotypic genus page, which is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Loopy30 (talk) 03:13, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 03:19, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I fear there may be many more of these as it's just an army of frogs or a knot of toads now as I help the Amphibians and Reptiles project convert to automatic taxoboxes. Today's fun includes a request to move Metaphryniscus sosai to its monotypic genus page, which is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 17:34, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Red-billed chough
Hi, where did the material you added here come from? DuncanHill (talk) 17:55, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * No idea, perhaps a transcluded page. It looks like the article was then an FA candidate. Any issue? Shyamal (talk) 02:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah - found it - the article was nominated for FA under the name of Chough and during the discussion it was renamed. See this Shyamal (talk) 05:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I was just looking at the page and was going to add to a couple of the posts, but couldn't find them in the history. DuncanHill (talk) 22:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 32
Hello Shyamal, another day, another frog. Could you please also move Ceratobatrachus to Cornufer guentheri? The species Ceratobatrachus guentheri has been reclassified from its previously monotypic genus and is now part of the genus Cornufer. The species page is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 03:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 05:03, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * And also a request to move Metaphryniscus sosai to its monotypic genus page, which is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 22:34, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 04:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * And also a request to move Eutaeniophorus festivus to its monotypic genus page, which is also a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 23:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 02:08, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Uricotelism
Hi Shyamal- I don't usually edit other people's talkpage posts, but I thought you'd be ok with my change to yours on the Bird talkpage. I wanted to make it more understandable to us non-experts Let me know if you don't agree, and I'll change it back. Eric talk 13:33, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * That is fine, I found that it needed some copyedits - faulty grammar that escaped me so long. Shyamal (talk) 13:37, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It was fun for me -- I learned two new words and two new templates! Eric talk 13:39, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 33
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Chrysopaa sternosignata to its monotypic genus page? The genus page is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * And also Ombrana sikimensis to its monotypic genus page as well, thanks. Loopy30 (talk) 23:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 05:43, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!
Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 34
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Itapotihyla langsdorffii and Nyctimantis rugiceps to their respective monotypic genus pages? The genus pages are currently redirects with minimal page histories. Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 22:13, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 02:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And also Arlequinus krebsi and Callixalus pictus? Loopy30 (talk) 03:46, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 03:51, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and also Chrysobatrachus cupreonitens, and Kassinula wittei? Loopy30 (talk) 03:54, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 04:00, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 35
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Rupirana cardosoi and Scythrophrys sawayae to their respective monotypic genus pages? The genus pages are currently redirects with minimal page histories. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 13:43, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 13:47, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And also Laliostoma labrosum and Boehmantis microtympanum? Loopy30 (talk) 13:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 13:33, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Next is a request to move Borneophrys to Megophrys edwardinae. This species (Borneophrys edwardinae) is now once again classified in the genus Megophrys (reference here). At one time, the article was at the common name, but later moved to the scientific as the common name was not unique. Loopy30 (talk) 13:39, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 02:38, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Shyamal, thank you all for your help in page moves over the last couple of years. I have now received the page-mover permission so I will not have to keep pestering you with so many taxonomic page move requests. Loopy30 (talk) 12:10, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh that is excellent! My bad, it seems I could have, at my discretion, granted you that power a long time ago. Shyamal (talk) 05:11, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Reblock for please
The IP had already ramped up to a 1 month for adding unsourced content, now they are back and at it again. Could you please re-block? Cheers -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:51, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Shyamal (talk) 05:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: November 2019
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Season's Greetings

 * - thank you, wishing you a great holiday season too! Shyamal (talk) 04:22, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

ThankAWikipedian
I'd like to thank you today as part of Katherine Maher's call for Thank A Wikipedian day on the occasion of Wikipedia's 19th birthday. Prad2609 (talk) 15:51, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Not sure what that tweet was all about but thanks! Shyamal (talk) 13:16, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Partial blocks.
 * The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input. No proposed process received consensus.

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 * Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating.  There is currently one template: uw-pblock.
 * When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title.

Arbitration
 * Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.

Miscellaneous
 * Voting in the 2020 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2020, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2020, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
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This Month in GLAM: January 2020
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WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge
Hi, feel free to add your entries to this or whatever region is it for what you've created, there is a Canadian list too! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Pink-headed duck protection
I was flummoxed to see that Pink-headed Duck is extended-confirmed protected. This is a mistake, right?

Regards, Dan Bloch (talk) 18:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry. Lowered protection by a notch now. Shyamal (talk) 03:46, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Theodore Pergande
Thank you for starting this. Can you expand it and clarify which war he fought in? After a bit more expansion it may be eligible for WP:DYK main page feature! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:27, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * - added some links - hope that is useful. Shyamal (talk) 09:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

long time no speak
oops my typeface on the page is so small i was trying to revert an adjacent item on my watch list - trust all is well seems like a long time since  we last spoke  JarrahTree 13:34, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * - no worries! Hope you are doing well. Seems like you were planning to attend the Bangkok meet. I decided not to and it was not because of the coronavirus but more to do with the dreariness of large metropolises. Shyamal (talk) 13:37, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


 * complicated - indeed the dreariness is one thing I agree, the predictability of the same issue whether jakarta and delhi (my most resent experiences) - all the same issues are hardly inviting to say the least JarrahTree 13:41, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Dawson Turner
hello @Shyamal I think you may have made a mistake when updating Dawson Turner recently: you have said he married Gretna Green, replacing the previous statement that his second wife was Rosamund Duff.
 * What is the truth here? -- jw (talk) 22:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Gretna Green is a place and a common venue or marriages. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * My error! I have restored that part and inserted "at" Gretna Green (thanks Andy). Shyamal (talk) 03:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It might be worth giving an indication as to why Dalton and Rosamund's marriage was contracted in a place renowned for irregular runaway marriages. I almost missed this one when I read the page casually yesterday ... then suddenly my subconscious pinged me "... Gretna? ... that's an unusual name!" :) -- jw (talk) 07:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems that Rosamund was about 30 years younger, came from a status not befitting the upper-class banking family (and appears to have been involved in some "alleged" manuscript thefts) - see https://books.google.com/books?id=qDCoDQAAQBAJ&lpg=PT392&vq=Rosamund&dq=%22Rosamund%20Duff%22%20%22Dawson%20Turner%22&pg=PT11#v=snippet&q=Rosamund&f=false Shyamal (talk) 07:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Help
Dear sir, I am new here and recently I create an article in my draftspace about a female leader and when it get completed I tried to move it to article page but there someone previously uses her name and redirects her name to new name (his husband's name).

Here is my draft, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Heena_Shahab

Her husband (which redirected from Heena Shahab) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Shahabuddin

They both are diffrent person. (Husband and wife) When I read rules, I saw that admins can help to improve it.

Help me sir. Sturdyankit (talk) 00:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * as mentioned by someone on your talk page - best to go through the process at Articles_for_creation, I will mark your article for review so that someone can help. Shyamal (talk) 03:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Dear sir, I have a small request, I don't know how to rename a page. So, please sir rename it from Heena Sahab to Heena Shahab or move it. Please respond. Sturdyankit (talk) 05:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * it is already at Draft:Heena Shahab. You would need to submit your article for review once you can demonstrate WP:NOTABILITY of the subject and have reliable citations for all the content - WP:SOURCES. Shyamal (talk) 05:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you today for what you added to Francis Willughby, introduced by Jim: "I live about 20 miles from Willughby's former home, and the publication of two major books in the last few years made it a no-brainer to write about the "first true ornithologist"." - Proud to share the page, with Jessye Norman, Naomi Munakata and Jennifer Bate, a bit of a sad record. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Misplaced credit, I am afraid. This gem is entirely due to - stay safe, everyone. Shyamal (talk) 08:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Nono, of course he got it first, but he mentioned your name, so ... ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Friedrich August von Gebler
Hi there, hope you're well.

I've just come across this new article you're creating, and can see that a similar article exists in French Wikipedia - but note that neither have any references at all at present. Have you come across any that would fit?

If not, I'll send it over to WP:PRUSSIA and WP:RUSSIA to try and see if one of the subject experts there has any citations for it.

Thanks! &#124; Naypta✉ opened his mouth at 11:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Argh, I'd somehow missed that there's an article on the Russian wiki that has a ton of references! I'll add a "expand language" tag from that. Sorry for troubling you! &#124; Naypta✉ opened his mouth at 11:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip, I have just seen the Cyrillic version of his name and will try and improve the English article. Shyamal (talk) 11:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Rungiah
Thank you for your message re Rungiah - I have a special fondness for botanical illustration and have long wondered why the article had not been created. I see that you have uploaded some of Rungiah's work to Commons and the thought occurs that you might have more biographical material than is easily found on the net cheers Paul venter (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I do know an expert on Rungiah, Dr Henry Noltie of RBG Edinburgh, unfortunately I do not think there is much apart from the artwork, and perhaps payments made by Wight to him, but I can check if there is more that Noltie has published (or induce him to publish so that we can cite it!). Shyamal (talk) 17:12, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

That would be great - I have seen adverts for his proposed books all over the web. Thank you for the headsup re the genus Rungia - I have corrected it - enormous coincidence of names! Paul venter (talk) 07:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You can contact him at HNoltie@rbge.org.uk - what proposed books? I think there is some coverage in the 2nd of the 3 volume Wight books - but I cannot access it (and not for a good while now). Shyamal (talk) 10:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

May 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
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Wagtail indian names
If things like did-he-do-it can be inserted why not Indian names? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Powstini (talk • contribs) 07:19, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The place to put in mere translations of the name in other languages is Wikidata. If you want to include it in English, you must include the English transliteration with sourced IPA (phonetic) if possible, it must have something more to be said about it, for instance what it means or how the name is derived, and of course with reliable sources. Remember that we are writing for English readers and those who are critical enough not to trust anything unless a proper citation is given. Names in Wikidata corresponding to specific Indian languages in the native script are essential to assist discovery of content but it is of no value if you add them like a dictionary out here on the English Wikipedia. You can also discuss this with a wider set of bird article editors at WT:BIRD if you like. Shyamal (talk) 07:52, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, not in the lead, which is for a summary of the article. And lead sections should not need references. If you read the article you will find that it already had the content you added with good sources cited - ie not a website of BNHS which is going to decay in a few years into a dead link. Shyamal (talk) 07:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Response to above : Thanks. Good that standardised norms will be applied. Noted that the did-he-do etc also vanished. Just want to make the point that the largest number of English users will be, if are not already, Indian or of Indian origin. Unless Wikidata floats over there for ready reference it will remain an obscure well of unaccessed information, while adding a few more lines in the online digital text will not hurt. Hope the norms will take account of the fact. - Powstini — Preceding unsigned comment added by Powstini (talk • contribs) 09:08, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikidata is used by Google in its searches, the info box on the right-hand side for instance, so no it is not obscure for those who know the digital information landscape. You can think of it as a semantic multi-lingual card index to content across the multiple language Wikipedias (and external databases too). Shyamal (talk) 09:16, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Courtship and breeding of crane
Hi, described it as courtship and a biologist with whom I revised did not notice any mistake. is what is written there correct in your opinion? I noticed you kept the image in that paragraph so I would like to know if there is some room for improvement or not. Thanks.--Alexmar983 (talk) 20:14, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What is written there seems to be lifted from somewhere. This is more likely a case of unison calling or duetting but not courtship which happens at a prior stage and involves more posturing in a common direction. The bird on the left with wing half open is a male. This information (after a recheck of that image) is from User:Sarusscape who is a specialist on sarus cranes and their ecology. I am afraid that image is rather mediocre in composition, with oversaturation of colour, and poor metadata, so much so that I had half a mind to remove it. That article can only have a small number of chosen images - we have far better images on commons - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Grus_antigone Shyamal (talk) 03:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I got no ping... in any case, I am not talking about the text, I asked if it was courtship, the rest of the description is clearly filling. In any case, I liked it more than other images in the category because when you scroll them even if small it actually looks less confusing when little. In many other ones the birds are so close I have to enlarge to get a better idea... and I asked to a formerly wildlife biologist her opinion as well, but she was not an expert of birds. To me the image was not far away from the text which in fact starts with a reminder of the trumpeting calls (and there is no trumpeting in the galery of "Pair behaviour"), so it looked reasonable, that's it.
 * BTW, do as you like. If you want I can put a more balanced double image as well, with the image of trachea on the left, the image of trumpeting (whatever that will be at the end) alligned on the right. It would help to see the bird doing this trumpeting.--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Obviously I do not own the article and will let things stay as it is since the caption is right now good enough, the image is not disrupting text and is in the right place. Shyamal (talk) 10:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Mugger croc
Hi Shyamal : I hope you are healthy !! You may have noticed that I updated Mugger crocodile in past few days. Do you have time for a look whether the page qualifies for being rated as B-class now? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 06:50, 16 June 2020 (UTC) BhagyaMani (talk) 10:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi BhagyaMani - I have had a brief browse, I think the article could do with a cultural section, perhaps anatomical and parasites/disease sections too. The distribution info is a bit odd, the species is far more widely distributed than just in rivers. Many mid-sized lakes across India have them. As far as referencing goes I guess it does qualify for B. Shyamal (talk) 08:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking at the page and for your changes. I fully agree that Baloch name is not important for lead. I thought of expanding and nominating it for GA later this year, once it has passed the rating for B-class. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 09:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Spotted dove
Hi. can you please elaborate the revert? what is misinformation here? and what is unethical here?  ❯❯❯  S A H A   04:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The article does not have space for too many images. Coming to the misinformation - how did you sex the bird? Both males and females take part in raising chicks. Intrusive nest photography is generally unethical. Also what informational or encyclopedic value is the image actually adding to the article text? Shyamal (talk) 04:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , ya, I accept that the sex determination might have been wrong. but, I observed them since laying eggs, so I was able to roughly distinguish them. and even if its wrong, it could have been rectified instead of removing the shole photo. this single photo showed the egg, chick and the adult, so I added. it will help people understand better. and there was no intrusion. the bird laid eggs in the balcony, next to my window, in a flowerpot. I clicked it from the window, without disturbing.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   04:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, I am happy to hear that the image was not taken intrusively. There are however a large number of spotted dove images on Commons already and in order to make your image work it needs more information. Your image is also essentially valueless without location where the image was taken - a date would also be worth adding since the EXIF is missing and it is not clear if upload date is the same as photography date. I have assumed from the category that this was taken in Kolkata, which would confirm the subspecies as suratensis and have removed an older image of the nest to accomodate yours. Shyamal (talk) 05:28, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I will update the time and location of the photo. yes, it is taken in Kolkata :)  ❯❯❯  S A H A   05:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Automatic taxobox parameters
Hi, just to note that Automatic taxobox requires taxon. If you instead put genus or familia, for example, these parameters are completely ignored and the system uses the page title instead, so the taxobox usually appears to work (but wouldn't if the title was an English name or the page was moved). Also you don't need name unless it is different from the taxon name. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:49, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I guess I slipped at Byrrhidae and a few others. Will keep that in mind. Shyamal (talk) 10:37, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Even the renowned slips up occasionally! (And I certainly do – usually Plantdrew corrects me.) Peter coxhead (talk) 18:45, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Eduard Enslin
Many thanks for deleting that draft.What happened was my fault for not including references when I created the article.When I went back to it a short while later it had been renamed for what it was a draft.It took a while to sort this out but all is well again.Soon I will see what I can do about your missing entomologists lists.One or two now and again.Very kind wishes Robert aka Notafly (talk) 19:38, 10 July 2020 (UTC) Ps Did you see Sander Rang who after appalling suffering on the raft of the Medusa (much worse than being frightened of Covid) went on with life to achieve very much.His wife was an artist so there must be a painting of him but where? The French have a very keen interest in their culture and there are many sources of information and I have contacts. So far no portrait of this deservedly famous figure.

Valérie Chansigaud
Did you ever come across Valérie Chansigaud  now a Member of Légion d'honneur in recognition of her biographical (natural history) and conservation efforts. She authors really beautiful publications some based on Portail:Histoire de la zoologie et de la botanique and and Histoire de l'histoire naturelle (both Wikipedia France) kr Robert Notafly (talk) 20:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, she did edit here in English too in the early days, had not heard of her high awards until now. Shyamal (talk) 02:08, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

St. Xavier's School, Behror
Hey Shyamal, May I have your kimd attention .I have been improving articles of my hometown .In that sequence I tried to improve an article of St. Xavier's School, Behror which was in older version wrongly redirecting to St. Xavier's School, Jaipur , After sometime these were reverted by some admin from Ireland  User:The Banner on basis that St. Xavier's Behror is a part of St. xavier's Jaipur which it isn't but both are under DSJ equivalent institutions .But he is admant on this on a misquote in Times Of India article even when Another legal proofs were provided. I would like to draw you in that discussion since you are local to India and will be more able to understand hindi artICles as well .I invite you on the deletion review page .Please accept the request .I respect Wikipedia's community policies and I contributed keenly witj time I would not like to go that waste .Since I read beforehand Wikipedia Policies. And also a suggestion for any deletion page there must be an admin with local knowledge on that page. Link to deletion Page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/St._Xavier%27s_School,_Behror_(2nd_nomination) राकेश5678 (talk) 02:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)User: राकेश578 8:09, 12 July 2020 (GMT+5:30).
 * I can only suggest that you find reliable sources, perhaps government documents, annual school reports etc. Shyamal (talk) 03:56, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes I have provided those at Deletion Review page .Can you have a look on links provided at the deletion review page Please. राकेश5678 (talk) 04:24, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

There is a govt document on that page by admin who accepts that and made retain comment but don't know Why The Banner user is hell bent on rejecting anything ...Even the another admin accepted that page must be there .You might provide local nuanve there  राकेश5678 (talk) 04:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

June/July 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
Delivered on behalf of Enwebb (talk) 16:33, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
Delivered on behalf of Enwebb (talk) 17:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Bronze-winged jacana
Hello. In March 2019, you did a lot of work on this article. You remove a composite image showing a unique behaviour without any explanation. Can you please explain why you have chosen to reduce the EV of this article. The composite image was 1st National Finalist in the Wiki Science Competition 2017, United Kingdom. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:13, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi! I have just reviewed those edits and if I remember right the composite was using rather too much screen area and decided that just one of the images could be retained mainly to illustrate immature plumage as that was mentioned in the text. I do not think the version of the article I saw said much about the behaviour or cited sources. I would not mind one bit if you chose a different image from the composite set, but I would think having the whole composite gallery would be a bit too much to include. Shyamal (talk) 17:07, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think screen width is a criteria for article content. As it is new behaviour, there are no sources. The behaviour is described, but there is no OR. I don't think you should take on the role of censor. Where can we get other opinions? Charlesjsharp (talk) 17:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * WT:BIRD would be a place to ask. Shyamal (talk) 02:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * We don't need opinions on the EV of the set. I've spoken to one of the World's recognized experts on Oriental Birds and he doesn't know. Surely we need an admin to rule on your reasons for deleting the image to stop what could become an edit war? Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I am really not sure what you are seeking. I would think that if you want allow large sets of images in galleries dedicated to show specific behaviours, then having a guideline for it at the Wikipedia project for birds would be the place so that other editors can follow the same rules and not remove large galleries. If it goes beyond birds, then the WP:MOS for gallery usage might need amendment. I am certainly not going to go about edit warring, but if you wish to complain about my removal of it then perhaps WP:ANI is the venue. Shyamal (talk) 08:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:14, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Pollination syndrome, Zoophily, Therophily
Hi there Shyamal. I see you've been taking care of the Pollination syndrome page. I came across this page on zoophily: the thing is, it's largely about therophily specifically, with a little bit on bats and lizards (that I want to verify for accuracy at a certain point). I was thinking about stripping 'pollination syndrome' of text to move there to balance that article, and then to add 'main article' templates to 'pollination syndrome'. Zoophily is about insects 99% of the time, but they are barely mentioned in that article. I also thought about renaming zoophily to therophily, but that is more complicated, as then zoophily would incorrectly redirect, links would be broken, etc.

Thoughts? Leo Breman (talk) 18:22, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a reasonable re-organization. Go for it! Shyamal (talk) 03:51, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reply. I'll put something at the talk page too before I really get to chopping. I want the 'pollination syndrome' article to be about the syndromes displayed by flowers, everything else can go to the other article. Cheers, Leo Breman (talk) 11:37, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

w:Category:Ochotona dauurica
Dear Shyamal,

Could you help me? I'm not able to change wrong picture in the Taxonavigation box for correct one (File:Ochotona daurica.jpg). Thank you, Hunu (talk) 15:35, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * that requires a change of the image at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1173034 - hope it works fine now. Shyamal (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Hunu (talk) 16:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

WikiEd student inquiry
Hello from Portland OR: I am writing a biographical WP page for a mammal parasitologist (shark,ray) named Janine Caira. Some of the biographical information I can access comes from a testimonial award presentation. The author, a fellow member of the American Society of Parasitology, quotes other academics and members. I am sure this is quite common and for the most part, mostly personal opinion. Do statements like:
 * inspirational
 * enthusiastic
 * encourages collaboration
 * advocates for students
 * generosity with her time
 * welcoming
 * tireless work ethic
 * attention to detail
 * patience
 * skills at observation
 * “can do”: whether it is collecting stingrays in the caiman-infested waters of the Brazilian Pantanal or in the potentially more troublesome environment of       university and academic politics. Janine's courageousness set an example for the rest of us.

have any place in a WP page? The adulation can be found elsewhere (other awards) from other society members and academics who have nothing to gain by speaking out Thanks, GaryCafe.doppio (talk) 20:03, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * - Hi Gary - for living persons, I would most certainly drop out adjectives describing personality (even if correct, since an encyclopedia is meant to be informative, not promotional) but would be ok using them for deceased subjects described in full-fledged biographies since these sources tend to provide evidence for any claimed personality traits. Best to examine the style indicated by GA and FA biographies on Wikipedia as well as the guidelines in WikiProject_Biography Shyamal (talk) 03:32, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the guidance. Update: I have received a resumé from the candidate. It has things like Univ of Connecticut served on and/or chaired more than 100 departmental, college, and university-wide committees 1985-2020. I cannot verify this on any UConn site but her peer accolades make me doubt fraudulence. Must I omit it? As noted above, academic peers from other universities have publicly attested to similar accomplishments (award dinner professional society with published journal account)Cafe.doppio (talk) 00:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * again please see WP:RS - secondary and tertiary sources from independent third-parties are always held above primary sources. Please discuss with your course coordinator as these are extremely basic foundations. Shyamal (talk) 03:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Images updating issues
Hello Shyamal,

Whats wrong with the image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukeshmishra.in (talk • contribs) 06:25, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The image is now used in an appropriate and meaningful way. Shyamal (talk) 06:30, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Do I Know your whole name sir, whats the procedure to upload it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukeshmishra.in (talk • contribs) 06:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Have added some links on your talk page to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia editing. Note that in general, there is a limit to the number of images that an article can hold so those that add encyclopaedic value or illustrate content are preferred and others will be removed. Wikipedia is not a photo gallery. You have obviously uploaded correctly but in future it is best to directly upload at https://commons.wikimedia.org/ (known as Wikimedia Commons - so as to serve all language Wikipedias_ and your image can be found at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MukeshMishra-Indian-darter-Bangalore.jpg - in order to use the same image you need to use MukeshMishra-Indian-darter-Bangalore.jpg in normal cases but template usage requires the "File:" to be dropped. You can read up more in the links given. My user name is my real name. Shyamal (talk) 06:51, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Holiday greetings
Wishing all talk page stalkers a good holiday season and hopefully a year ahead with greater freedom! Shyamal (talk) 06:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)