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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter – 020



 * April 2022&mdash;Issue 020


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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
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As recently active admin, request your help at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 04:10, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I take on only gnomish tasks. Will leave that issue to someone who deals with disputes of that kind. Shyamal (talk) 05:24, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Potentially functionless protection
Hey! You seem to have recently move protected the Soma_(drink) page. However, you have set the protection level to "autoconfirmed". By default, pages can not be moved by an account not autoconfirmed, making this protection level non-functional. Did you perhaps implement the wrong protection level? Aidan9382 (talk) 11:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, in error, I see that User:Sdrqaz has restored it to its normal state. Shyamal (talk) 14:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:34, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * . Danke schön. Shyamal (talk) 13:44, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

John Hellins (entomologist)
What changes were you making to this page? Foiled circuitous wanderer (talk) 14:53, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Genera are always italicized. Also that is not the only "African" (ie Afrotropical realm) genus within the Pterophoridae (which is a really large family). I am not sure you are looking for me to produce references to show more Pterophoridae from the region? (see for example) (PS: "The African genus Hellinsia ...." is certainly not wrong grammatically!) Shyamal (talk) 15:14, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you; that's fine. For some reason when I tried to put the genus name into italics, the link failed! Your have cured this problem. Foiled circuitous wanderer (talk) 17:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society
Dear ,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. &#x200B;

Best regards, Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 18:25, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I added a userbox (temporary) and fixed the SVG logo of the Society - I am a bit like that Marx chap who does not value membership to clubs that would want him as a member! Shyamal (talk) 23:00, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Invisible Barnstar

 * Rather more praise than I can handle and an example of sampling bias! Time, certainly, we could all do with more! Thank you. Shyamal (talk) 01:59, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I see that you have an interest in pre-modern astronomy from India - this really is not my area of interest, but was creating stubs as these are included in the Complete Dictionary of Scientific Biography and were missing on en.wiki. There are still several India-related entries that need to be created and these might be of interest to you - Haridatta II - Makaranda - Mathurānātha Śarman - and - Nāgeśa. Shyamal (talk) 08:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Boris Mikhailovich Zhitkov
Hi thanks for creating this article. When we translate or borrow from other language wikis it’s a requirement to acknowledge the source. The best way to do this is to include it in your edit summary (e.g. “translated from ru.wiki”) and there’s also a translation template you can add to the talk page. I’ve added it for you. Happy editing Mccapra (talk) 07:26, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Actually I treat the ru.wiki as an unreliable source and go with translations of other sources including those listed in their article as references. Unfortunately I hit a save before I could put in all the references used. Shyamal (talk) 08:30, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * PS: I see that the list of the first employees appears as if it were translated from the Russian wikipedia entry, but in fact we are both using the list from a common source... check the polarpost forum link I included in the article. Shyamal (talk) 09:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Credit line Photo Ramanada Chatterjee
Hello Shyamal, I would like to use the following photo of Ramananda Chatterjee as an illustration for a book publication:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ramananda_Chatterjee_2.jpg

The photo is in the public domain in India, but can I also use this photo for a book that will be published in Britain (hard-copy and electronic version)? And how should an appropriate credit line look like?

Many thanks in advance for shedding some light on this! Poldertales (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * - I am fairly certain that you would have little to fear of any punitive legal action. I think you should however let your publisher do the research and decide. The author to cite would probably be the publishers of the Modern Review but you can also merely mention the source. The photographer is clearly unknown in this case but if the photographer can be identified (or steps forward after reading your book!), it may or may not be in public domain depending on whether 70 60 (Indian Copyright Act 1957) years have passed since the death of the photographer. Shyamal (talk) 09:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry ! I have just re-examined the source (added a link as well), I think there is actually a problem, the author appears to be this writer - Banarsidas Chaturvedi who died in 1985 - which actually means the photo does not meet the PD-India criteria (I will leave it to the Commons Admins to deal with this). So I am afraid you would have to find other ways of reusing it - under "fair use" or by trying to contact the estate of Banarsidas Chaturvedi. Shyamal (talk) 10:09, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for the clarification and your prompt reply, I will have to see how to proceed. Poldertales (talk) 11:15, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

New research on Ants?
Hi Shyamal, I have found some intersting info from 2023 on ants age related working processes and communication in twitter or facebook resembling fashion found out over a study involving QR codes but I am hesitant to add as Ant is an FA and you as its nominator are still editing. Maybe you know best where in the article how much of it can be added.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 09:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the article. Except for the research methodology (which allows a larger number of ants to be tracked than say traditional paint dots to identify ants), this phenomenon of age-based labour specialization is fairly well-known and already included in the article and we also have a separate entry at Polyethism. Similarly information flow in the colony is understood in its generics, but not really well understood except for obvious cases like the spread of alarm or food discovery information, and the journalistic comparison with Twitter is perhaps not scientific enough for inclusion. I have however taken your suggestion and added a link and introduction to age polyethism and noted the case of suicidal workers in Forelius. Shyamal (talk) 13:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This marking and tracking methodology using QR codes and computer vision should probably go somewhere and I am fairly sure that some student of User:Agelaia will get to it sooner or later. Shyamal (talk) 14:13, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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Walter Lee Gaines article
Hi there! Just here to say thanks for creating an entry for my great-grandfather Walter Gaines! -Pete Gaines 73.9.140.171 (talk) 20:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear, would be great to have a picture from the family album that can be free licensed by the heirs. Shyamal (talk) 02:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, happy to help. I've got a lot of the family photos via my dad/grandparents; I'll check this weekend for a good headshot-style photo. 73.9.140.171 (talk) 19:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Charles Johnston
Hi. I'm working on Bronx County Bird Club which led me to Special:Diff/964037693. Is it possible that you've mis-identified Charles Willison Johnson? https://archive.org/details/abstractofprocee1932linn/page/n289/mode/2up?q=%22charles+johnson%22 identifies a "Charles Johnson" (not Johnston with a "t") as a member active in New York and working with "Mr. Griscom". Looking at the two biographies, I could believe it's either of them. RoySmith (talk) 18:04, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, upon further reading, I think you may be right. There's multiple references in that source to "Charles Johnston" (with a "t"). RoySmith (talk) 18:23, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Good to hear that it is settled! Shyamal (talk) 12:31, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding a revert
Hello Shyamal, Thanks for your feedback on one of my edits on the page Black drongo after reverting it. But I'm confused about what to do. Would you mind guiding me through ? Fabian Roudra Baroi (talk) 21:56, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * - Black drongo is a Good Article and it is a common bird with |hundreds of photos available on Wikimedia Commons. Not every picture can be added to the English wikipedia article given the space available. If it is documenting some article text and adding encyclopaedic value, it also needs to be precise and truthful. We do have some very rare and questioned records of black drongo fishing etc. They more frequently will dip in water but a photograph is not easy to discover or document behaviour - a full video or a series of photos would help (in which one can determine whether it is fishing, merely dipping, picking food, or just flying low...). You noted in your caption "A black drongo hunting[sic] in a pond" - now if it is really fishing (hunting is a vague term), then it would be publishing worthy but you need to go the whole way and document the behaviour, identify the prey species, examine the scientific literature on the topic etc. Hope that clarifies the action. Shyamal (talk) 02:46, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing it up. As I love to take photographs beside ponds or rivers, I used to see them regularly hovering on the water. I wish I could make a video or a photo series, but I have some limitations because of the gears I use. This is the closest picture I managed to get. Hopefully, in the future, if I manage to get good gear, I'll definitely keep it in mind. Fabian Roudra Baroi (talk) 03:04, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * - just to confirm, it is not about the gear. There are zillions of photographers out there. What matters is care of observation and knowledge of the subject being documented. Shyamal (talk) 03:12, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I guess a year is no longer enough to celebrate the millions of good editors around! Shyamal (talk) 05:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposal to rename category
Please see my proposal to speedily up merge Category:Women physicians from India Hugo999 (talk) 02:20, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Go for it but please leave a from this... Shyamal (talk) 04:32, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Indic Script consensus
Please kindly read my discussion under User_talk:Javierfv1212 and User_talk:Symphing12 and maybe let's begin anew a talk about consesus on using Indic Scripts, because I think those contained in Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_48 (re:lead)] and Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_64 (re:infobox) are dated. noychoH (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive
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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 23



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Category:Agricultural researchers in India has been nominated for deletion
Category:Agricultural researchers in India has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Aldabra fody
Hey, I assume you found this article via my mention of it on WP:RX. I thought it was implicit that I was in the middle of a major edit, which will obviously conflict with yours. Much of what you said is already encompassed by my edits, including the sources. Can I have your consent to overwrite them? Anonymous 23:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @An anonymous username, not my real name feel free to edit. Shyamal (talk) 01:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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November 2023
Hello, I'm User4edits. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, University of Agricultural Sciences, Bangalore, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please do add the information back with references. Thanks, User4edits (talk) 10:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That information is prominently posted on a painted board in the university and is also present at the bottom of a draft website page of the official website - https://demo.uasbangalore.edu.in/en/about-us/ Unfortunately there are no print sources for it. Shyamal (talk) 01:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * As you say, it is a draft website. It would be good if you would just click a photo of the said board, and place it as an image in the article. Also, you may want to see COI. Thanks, User4edits (talk) 09:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the suggestions, I am ok if someone finds the sources in the future. I am hardly interested in any form of promotion of that entry or related entries - despite a mild COI which I am aware of and declare on User:Shyamal/rambles - It is at about the same level of COI I have with science, so I am always happy if someone finds better or contrary claims or sources. Shyamal (talk) 09:28, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 25



 * December 2023&mdash;Issue 025


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Happy New Year
Wishing my talk page watchers a very happy New year! Shyamal (talk) 14:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Kalidasa
Hi. Please see my note at Talk:Kalidasa albiflos. This may be something to discuss. Dyanega (talk) 17:12, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Let me know what the best option for now would be. I assumed that iNaturalist having pushed it and the fact that it was a 3 year old paper without any published responses made it a legit change. Shyamal (talk) 02:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know. My inclination is to revert to lanata and explain the situation by citing the Code, but that probably runs afoul of the "no original research" prohibition. I've actually consulted with the Commission about this case; it is not unanimous agreement as to whether an application MUST be submitted, but there is no dispute that the Code says in the meantime, the junior homonym is to be maintained if it is in prevailing use. Prior to 2020, albiflos had not been used as a valid name since 1906, so lanata most definitely was in prevailing usage. It's a shame that iNat uncritically accepted the change in designation, as it makes it harder to prevent people from using albiflos. The last point is that with the next Code edition, the process of protecting primary junior homonyms will not require an application, and will allow for the resurrection of names incorrectly replaced - meaning that the name WILL become lanata again once the next Code edition comes out, and the more the name albiflos is promoted, the harder that transition back to lanata is going to be. But, WP is not a crystal ball. So, it's a quandary. Revert, or just leave an explanation on the talk page? Dyanega (talk) 18:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of V. B. Banjkowski for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article V. B. Banjkowski is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/V. B. Banjkowski until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. X (talk) 08:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikiedu!

 * Apologies. I posted that in the wrong place. I'm a complete novice trying to "be bold" as the training recommends.Fauxbeagle (talk) 16:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I checked your user page and saw you wrote: "Some qualified people feel daunted by the system while a few feel it is infra dig to collaborate with commoners. I am happy to help anyone in the former category." I am in that category and sending you this email with a link as a low-stakes practice.

You've inspired me to put my toes in Wikipedia's waters. My students are also doing a Wiki-edu assignment.Fauxbeagle (talk) 16:33, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Wonderful to see! Will try and help your students with their assignments. Shyamal (talk) 05:54, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, as ever.108.12.218.234 (talk) 14:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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