User talk:Shyamal/archive6

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Posting to self
Just staring and hoping these images will fix themselves ! Shyamal 14:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey ! They actually fixed themselves ! Looks like some transient glitches on wikimedia. Shyamal 04:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

A suggestion
Hi Shyamal, Please consider adding words '(with image)' to your animal lists. Could save a lot of our time trawling stubs while looking for id of species. Regards, AshLin 02:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Oestroidea
Hi. Yes, the Oestroidea has been reorganized recently - the "official" list of Calyptrate flies is:
 * Anthomyiidae
 * Calliphoridae
 * =Mesembrinellidae (synonym)
 * Fanniidae
 * Glossinidae
 * Hippoboscidae
 * =Nycteribiidae (rank)
 * =Streblidae (rank)
 * Mormotomyiidae
 * Muscidae
 * =Eginiidae (rank)
 * Mystacinobiidae
 * Oestridae
 * =Cuterebridae (rank)
 * =Gasterophilidae (rank)
 * =Hypodermatidae (rank)
 * Rhiniidae
 * Rhinophoridae
 * =Axiniidae (rank)
 * Sarcophagidae
 * Scathophagidae
 * Tachinidae
 * =Stackelbergomyiidae (rank)

I'm pretty sure I made sure this was reflected in the various pages, I'll doublecheck it. Dyanega 15:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Fauna of British India
Sorry about the Archive mess. As to Fauna British India I'll do my best with both authors and the history of the work but this may have to wait for a month or two. Gasterophilidae nice page I'll add what I can.All the best and in haste todayNotafly 11:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

--Thoughtheybered 21:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)Thanks so much for this - terribly helpful. I have a number of questions on the Fauna, particularly those who were instrumental in bringing it out in the first place. Do you have any leads?


 * See

Sally R. Walker : The Indian Natural History Project (1801-1808) and the Menagerie at Barrackpore (1803-1878) The Indian Natural History Project (1801-1808) was an ambitious and prescient proposal of Lord Arthur Wellesley, Governor General of Bengal at the turn of the 19th century. The project aimed to inventory all the vertebrate life of the Indian subcontinent, an endeavor which we would call today a "biodiversity project". Answering the request of Wellesley, babus and bureaucrats from the entire subcontinent sent "quadrupeds" (both mammals and birds) to Dr. Francis Buchanan-Hamilton who was appointed Director of the Project. Politics prevented the Project from either being completed or recognized. Nevertheless, some 99 odd mammals and birds were "described and drawn" from the specimens sent and they survive today only in manuscript. Both drawings and descriptions contain errors, some quite grotesque, but are of great historical interest. Shyamal 05:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Fauna of British India Link
untitled document leads to downloads. http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/cgi-bin/advsearch_db.cgi?listStart=100&&subject1=Biology&perPage=20 Enjoy 12:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Cobboldia
Hi. I gave Cobboldia its own page, and corrected the species name ("elephantis" is a nomen nudum, and was later renamed loxodontis). Peace, Dyanega 21:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi. First, you'll notice that the link you mention explicitly states that elephantis is a synonym of loxodontis. Second, no species of Cobboldia is known from Asia - so, if there are elephant bot flies in Asia, there are only two explanations: (1) it's C. loxodontis, and it's been introduced (which is what I was assuming), or (2) it's some other native Asian fly that is not in the genus Cobboldia. If the latter, then I need to delete the link to Asian elephants from the Cobboldia page. Peace, Dyanega 16:10, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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Cane Toad
Hi, thanks for keeping an eye on the Cane Toad article, but the recent revert you did wasn't neccesary. That was the last section I had to add (was part of the FAC requirements that I add it), and thankfully someone did it for me. It was a little rough, so it may have seemed like vandalism, but it wasn't. Also, before you change the spelling of an article, please check which one it uses. You changed two words in the article to US spelling, when the rest of the article isn't US. Thanks. --liquidGhoul 05:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the spelling was me - someone had previously Americanized the article, so when I edited, I put it back to Australian English. When this user reverted my very pertinent edit, the spelling went back to US English. - 220.237.30.150 07:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Heron
Thanks for questioning that edit. I thought it was common knowledge, but now I realise that I may have happened on an urban myth that is propagated among sports fishers. I've reverted. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 17:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Query
Shyamal, in taxobox of Daboia, two synonyms of Daboia russelii are follwed by a word 'sic' in brackets. What does it mean? Regards, AshLin 10:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

It's Latin for "thus" and used to indicate that whatever was written was literally reproduced -- that it was written that was intentionally. I started using "[sic]" in the synonyms list for Daboia to indicate that names like Coluber Russelii and Vipera Daboya were not misspelled. But then, after deciding to include the entire list (which is now pretty long) and seeing that so many of the older names were written that way, I gave up and removed them again. --Jwinius 12:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Fibonacci number
Hi, I saw you add Image:Helianthus whorl.jpg to Fibonacci number. Could you please explain what you mean by "Fibonacci spirals" and add a reference? Melchoir 05:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Emerald Dove
With greatest respect, I removed your photo from the Emerald Dove page because I didn't think it was appropriate having a picture of a dead bird. I hope you don't mind. I have also removed text referring to them being called "stupid dove" in Kerala as this yet again is a cultural reference and refers to the creatures in a degrading way. Frances76 09:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, birds hitting into glass happens everywhere, including in Australia! A lot of sparrows and other birds in the middle of an urban area fly into glass and die. Its not limited to the Emerald Dove. Thank you for being understanding. Frances76 10:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Megaerops wetmorei
I'm not a bat expert. In wikifying old articles, I did some bat articles to get them out of the wikify bin. The information in Megaerops wetmorei was mixed in with Macroglossus so I made a new article out of what was there, hoping someone knowledgable would fix it up

You mention the list of mammals of India. I didn't know about that list. I have also wikified Aethalops, Chironax and Megaerops because I came across them. I wish someone who knows about the subject would look over what I did to make sure I didn't make bad mistakes.

All the bats I have come across are listed on the Megabat list. You might look there and see if you can find some names of editors who know more, as there seems to be a bat projext. I recomment looking on the lists on the  Megabat page.

Someone even consulted me about the The belching bat, thinking I was a bat expert! Even though I am not, I could tell that was a hoax!

Hope this helps. KarenAnn 10:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you want to take a look at Bulmer's fruit bat?
It's already listed on Megabat as Aproteles bulmerae. Not consistantly using the latin name as primary link. Bulmer's fruit bat is the same link as Bulmer's fruit bat through a redirect. KarenAnn 12:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Darwin quote
The passage I have in The Descent of Man, Penguin Classics Edition (the original first edition was 1879, but this one doesn't give a year), is p. 255 "I asked Mr. Bartlett, of the Zoological Gardens, who has had very large experience with birds, whether the male tragopan (one of the Gallinaceae) was polygamous, and I was struck by his answering, 'I do not know, but I should think so from his splendid colours.'" Bartlett with a double "t" on the end, and the passage in brackets does appear in the original - I have added or modified nothing, and quoted the sentence in full. Hope this helps. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 08:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Spider list
Hi,

i just found your nice List of spiders of India and linked it to the spider section, although I'm not sure if you thought it to be ready for primetime. Not sure you noticed, we started a WikiProject Spiders. Drop by if you want :)

cheers --Sarefo 19:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Gasteracantha picture
hi shyamal,

I just attached this Image:Spider_madagascan.jpg picture to the Gasteracantha page, and wondered why it's called "Spider_madagascan.jpg" when the description says it's from southern India? Because if it's from Madagascar, it cannot be a G. remifera (occurs only in India + Sri Lanka). --Sarefo 00:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Harpegnathos saltator typo fixes
You're welcome. I enjoy an occasional bit of proof-reading. -- Avenue 13:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Technical description suggestion
Shyamal, This straight copy from the book has been done in butterfly pages also and I was wondering if we MUST keep it formatted the same way. I mean keeping the words is one thing, but these descriptions are as it is full of technical words. Would it hurt if we changed the formatting like so.


 * Vomerine teeth in two oval oblique groups between the choanae.
 * Head moderate, depressed;
 * snout moderate, hardly as long as the diameter of the orbit, subacuminate, moderately prominent;
 * loreal region concave;
 * nostril nearer to the end of the snout than to the eye;
 * interorbital space rather narrower than the upper eyelid;
 * tympanum very distinct, nearly as large as the eye. fingers moderate, first extending beyond second;
 * toes rather short, half webbed : tips of fingers and toes swollen;
 * subarticular tubercles very strong;
 * inner metatarsal tubercle oval, blunt;
 * a large rounded tubercle at the base of the fourth toe;
 * no tarsal fold.
 * The tibio-tarsal articulation reaches the tympanum or the eye.
 * Skin finely granulate above;
 * a broad, not very prominent glandular lateral fold;
 * a strong glandular fold from below the eye to the shoulder, followed by one or two glandules.
 * Head and body bright crimson above, blackish brown on the sides;
 * back sometimes with a few small black spots;
 * upper lip, and a series of spots on the flank, white ;
 * limbs blackish brown above, spotted and marbled with pale brown and while;
 * beneath uniform white, or marbled brown and white.

Echis carinatus
I appreciate your contributions to Echis carinatus today, but I did feel that it was necessary to update this information (modern texts give different scale counts). I think it's really cool that you have that book (or at least its text) at your disposal, but generally speaking I don't think it's good policy to include information that will often prove to be outdated in articles that people expect to be up to date. Mallow et al. (2003) even makes much of US Navy (1965) look out of date. True, you did start off the section by stating that you were quoting text that's over 100 years old, but if that's all that the article has to say about it, what else are people supposed to think? I did, however, leave some of Boulenger's info in there, such as the anal plate being single, which is why I left him in there as a cited reference. But, keep your eyes peeled: we might end up finding info later on saying that the anal scale is often single, but not always and depends on the population (or something along those lines).

While on the subject, though, I noticed a while back that you are also responsible for creating a number of articles (T. albolabris, T. erythrurus, T. gramineus, etc.) that you started off with similar information (scalation, color pattern). It would certainly be helpful (and honest!) if you were to say which references you were actually citing from.--Jwinius 13:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Identification of snake scales
Please see User:AshLin/Snake scales. Comments please for improvement. Have you also seen Amphiesma stolata and Coluber ventromaculatus? AshLin 19:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Citing references for old material
In particular, it would be helpful if you cited your references for the following contributions: That's about it. If there are other genera that you've done this for as well, it would be great if you added reference citations there too. --Jwinius 19:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Trimeresurus albolabris
 * Trimeresurus albolabris
 * Trimeresurus erythrurus (entire text)
 * Trimeresurus gramineus
 * Trimeresurus gramineus
 * Trimeresurus medoensis (entire text)
 * Trimeresurus popeiorum (entire text)
 * Trimeresurus purpureomaculatus (entire text)
 * Trimeresurus septentrionalis (entire text)
 * Trimeresurus stejnegeri