User talk:Siliconred/Archive 2

Donda (album) lead
Hello, I notice that you added a template in the lead following many felt the album was overlong and lacking in coherence, though some. Since the first half sentence already specifies music critics, I think it should be clear to the reader that "some" describes some of those music critics. That was a complicated way of saying that I believe the template is unnecessary in this case. What do you think? Throast (talk &#124; contribs) 19:06, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Never mind, someone has rephrased the sentence. Throast (talk &#124; contribs) 19:17, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Reading the reviews, I didn't see any which specifically deemed it superior to his previous albums Ye (2018) and Jesus Is King (2019). This seems to me more like fan editorialization than cited knowledge, which is why I added the tag -- the phrasing is still there, and I'm happy to take this convo to the talk page for the article (which is probably where I should have started it...). It just seems like a misconstruction of the critical consensus. (I also am not sure that critics were "polarized" by the album, it seems more like the album recieved mixed reviews. I only see one review which gives it a particularly positive angle, from slantmagazine.) Thanks for reaching out! SiliconRed (talk) 13:50, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Publications Consequence, Exclaim, and Slate "deem it superior" to those albums (they are all cited in the critical reception section), which makes it worthy of a mention in the lead in my opinion. On the latter, I totally agree. It's currently being discussed at the talk. Throast (talk &#124; contribs) 14:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Got it, ty for the explainer! Good to have convos like these :) SiliconRed (talk) 15:33, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ciel (musician)
Hello Siliconred,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Ciel (musician) for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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Tame (talk) 09:02, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice! I’ll reopen the article in the draft space & continue improving it. I believe the subject is notable enough, but I’ll improve the article to make that clear. SiliconRed (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC) SiliconRed (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ciel (musician) (January 18)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ciel (musician) has been accepted
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COI regarding Ciel (musician)
@Siliconred, since you have previous history, just making sure you were not paid to create this article? Tame (talk) 17:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Nope! I haven't been paid (& won't be paid in the future) to write for Wikipedia beyond the Bookmark disclosure & article. Saw her perform a few months ago, which motivated me to write this article. 😊 SiliconRed (talk) 17:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Siliconred, You know disclosing paid editing is really important, so I was just making sure, thought straight up ask u before putting it to a discussion at WP:COIN. Usually, users who have already disclosed a COI previously, do not hesitate to do so in future if they have COI. But u know, sometime they forget or avoid it. Anyway, thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia. I hope you'd keep continuing creating articles.
 * PS: I'd advice you to not directly create articles/pages in mainspace. Rather create a draft, and upon its completion, either move it to mainspace (being confident its suitable for inclusion), or submit it to AFC (as you did for Ciel, which I appreciate).
 * PSS: On a side note, I also often times created articles about subjects, including musicians whom I randomly came across. It's a good habit IMO. Keep doing that. Would be happy to be help regarding any issues. Cheers!-- Tame (talk) 18:04, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Stellar, I'll definitely reach out if I have questions! I've created a few articles before but I'm a bit rusty (as you caught with my initial attempt at this article...). I haven't actually used AfC before, but the process was smooth and straightforward (and gets more eyes on drafts) and I anticipate doing so again. Thanks for your help! SiliconRed (talk) 18:59, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sherelle (February 8)
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Slywriter (talk) 18:39, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Help with Robert Ebo Hinson Page Edits
Hello Siliconred, I just realized you read my recent entry for Robert Ebo Hinson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Robert_Ebo_Hinson).

Can you help me re-edit it to suit an entry for Wikipedia since I have all the reference links in there? I have over 28 reference points. Please feel free to delete sections you think should not be included and make it Wikipedia-worthy.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buernatey (talk • contribs) 13:47, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there Buernatey -- the issue isn't with the reference points (I have not given the citations a thorough review quite yet). You can use my comment on as part of my reason for decline to help out as you revise the article: Feel free to ping me once you feel this has been addressed & I'm happy to review again! SiliconRed (talk) 14:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 16:38:02, 25 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya
Namaste I need an my biography article on Wikipedia even I have given to draft am pavan acharya film actor and Telivesion actor I will give my film projects updates and my TV Telivesion projects updates so can you do article promotion

Thank you Regards Pavan Acharya Film actor and Telivesion actor Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk) 16:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Pak Page Edits
Nathan, none of the edits on the Pak page is contested information that you deleted systematically. I don't understanding - everything is justified. I am fully aware of several well funded campaigns to delete mentions of Pak (and I know who is behind some of them). I do hope this is done with good conscious as there is a bit of disinformation out there.

14:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)shortshoward — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shortshoward (talk • contribs)
 * Hi there! None of the information you’ve added is cited. If you’d like to add it to the article, please provide WP:RS. I have no idea what “campaigns” you’re talking about, Wikipedia prohibits canvassing, unless you’re referring to AfD discussions about the page. AfD nominations happen all the time. Please stop undoing my edits unless you plan to constructively add to the page content that is independently verified. Thanks! SiliconRed (talk) 15:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

March editathons
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Lost Poets Deletions on Pak Page
I don't quite understand why do you always delete Lost Poets from Pak's webpage? There are legitimate sources on this sale, and it was even cited by Andreesen Horowitz in their investment into Manifold. Shortshoward (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi again! In the future, I’d prefer if you raise questions on the article talk page, rather than my personal page — I do not WP:OWN the article. The first citation is not from a WP:RELIABLE source, and the second is not WP:INDEPENDENT. For now, it seems okay to keep information about the project, but the $70 million figure has been impossible to verify in my research, and it would be against the guidelines of WP:BIO to keep such a massive claim in the article without sufficient sourcing. Apologies if this wasn’t clear, I work to articulate reasons for changes very explicitly in my edit summaries. SiliconRed (talk) 06:47, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


 * There are plenty of sources verifying Lost Poets sales, please explain to me why the citation is not relevant? You do realize there has been a systematic campaign paid by several NFT collectors (who many are aware of) to try and reduce media coverage of Pak on their Lost Poets and Merge drop. Shortshoward (talk) 07:50, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If there are other citations out there, please share them. I've already explained issues with the existing citations, and I'm still not sure what campaign you're talking about. Anyway, regardless of why citations don't exist, you can't add information to any article because you believe it to be true without proper citations to back it up. This is a core principle of Wikipedia. SiliconRed (talk) 07:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Happily, do you also want me to point on the blockchain how Pak raised $70 million? Also explain to me why cryptotimes is not an information source? The campaign was done to pay certain people to specifically delete Pak on Wikipedia and pay certain news sources to not publish or bring attention to Pak drops, which more or less have been a waste of money trying to censor events that occur on the blockchain. Shortshoward (talk) 07:22, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

The issue is a general lack of reliable coverage of the sale. Notice how the "Merge" sale has plenty of independent citations, and the "Clock" sale is covered in multiple known WP:RS. There is only one article which mentions this "Poets" sale; "Cryptotimes" is not sufficient to WP:VERIFY the claim. The "chain" is not WP:INDEPENDENT -- it's impossible to verify the legitimacy of the sale by looking only there. Paid editors on Wikipedia are required to disclose, and I have not seen suspicious editing patterns on Pak (creator). I am doubtful there is a campaign to silence this person, but if you have WP:RS to support this, it would be noteworthy content to include in the article. SiliconRed (he/him) (talk) 08:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI, I am not going to continue this conversation here. If you have content issues with the article please raise them on the article talk page. SiliconRed (he/him) (talk) 09:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)


 * There are examples of paid Wikipedia editors and their backers (known) who have paid to delete portions of Pak's creator Wikipedia page and limit media coverage. Shortshoward (talk) 03:52, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

COIN
Greetings, even though you started this on Barkeep49's talkpage, didn't feel like cluttering that page up. Just wanted to let you know that since that editor looks like they are going to adhere to COI guidelines and not directly edit, I'm going to hold off on the report.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:05, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Makes total sense, agreed. I’ll be keeping an eye on the page, if any issues come up I will likely ping you. Cheers, SiliconRed (he/him) (talk) 23:11, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft minecrafr clkne
It needs a article, and if you dont want it a article, i will do it myself. KaptianKharisma (talk) 20:48, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You might consider suggesting this article at WikiProject Video games/Requests. SiliconRed (he/him) (talk) 20:53, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

April Editathons from Women in Red
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Important Notice
Doug Weller talk 17:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice Doug Weller -- just out of curiosity, do you find my contributions have been productive on the article? I don't mean to step on toes, and I'm looking to make sure the piece is strong. Open to any commentary. Cheers, SiliconRed (he/him • talk) 17:36, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I haven’t really scrutinised them and don’t want to get involved in content, bit I’ve seen no problems. It’s just routine and I need to be sure I give them to good editors as well as those I worry about. I made myself aware of them. I didn’t give you one for gender. Doug Weller  talk 18:25, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Copy that, thank you! Appreciate the feedback. SiliconRed (he/him • talk) 18:27, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed merger for Lott (disambiguation)
This version seems to be the correct one. It looks like you saw the mistake, fixed it, then accidentally clicked undo: the current version proposes to merge the DAB page with itself. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 16:51, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you! I'm not super familiar with the merge process so.... mistakes were made 😊 SiliconRed (he/him • talk) 17:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)