User talk:Sillyfolkboy/Archive 3

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Robbie Keane
Before you edit others people's work try getting your puncuaction and grammer right. This isn't kindergarten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CTFC (talk • contribs) 18:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hilarious! I'm keeping this one here forever! Either way, I believe you'll find that the lead and Liverpool sections comprise largely my own contributions. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Dwain Chambers article length
Hey man, the article is quite long and when you go to the edit page, it suggests itself that it's split. I'm wondering whether there's an obvious split point. Personally, I'd be tempted to suck out the drugs ban and his subsequent attempts at other sports. I'm not entirely sure whether it'd be worth it and if it would be detrimental to the overall article. Maybe it's something to do when he retires. Anyhoo, as it's mainly your work, coming to you for thoughts. 17:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fol de rol troll (talk • contribs)
 * Yes indeed it is a bit of a problem. Depending on how the article pans out until the end of his career, there are three options: (a) Leave as is&mdash; it is by no means to longest Wikipedia article and doesn't discuss anything trivial. (see Mircea Eliade and special:longpages). (b) Crudely trim it down a bit&mdash; removing or summarising minor track meets and events to focus on most notable events. (c) Spin off long sections into sub-articles and intensely summarise the content&mdash;this is done well on John McCain and is what I'm in the middle of doing for Usain Bolt's early career. The third option is my preference, as it allows both in-depth analysis and a thoroughly readable main article (and follows WP:Preserve). One thing that's clear is that this article simply must get shorter at some point. I changed my writing approach for Tyson Gay as I realised I was being to in-depth. Either way, given yesterday's events, there might still be much to write about! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 09:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Quints
Most articles I've seen do prefix quintuple with 'the'. And some even capitalise (not that I see that is important). See   Nfitz (talk) 03:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

FAC
Thanks! Yes, I know we'll get it there eventually. I'm not giving up on it. Hopefully the seventh will be it. ;) DrNegative (talk) 00:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Sinama Pongolle
Hi there Boy, Vasco here,

About this chap (again), i want to discuss something with you: First, about the stuff i proposed at WPFOOTY, you're right, it's not a big deal if his name is or not hyphenated, i just brought that forward because i have too much time on my hands, man... ;)

2nd point: You inserted a reference in infobox, i enhanced it (you didn't call it that, and come to think of it, maybe it wasn't), but my question now is: i always thought that kind of info (team profiles, stats, etc) should be external link, not ref (i thought that should be full stories from official sources or newspaper articles). I relocated it in Pongolle's article, but immediately "undid", so everything stayed as you originally input it. What's your opinion on this?

A great weekend, sorry 4 any incovenience, Vasco, Portugal - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 16:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's okay to use any kind of reference you want as long as you use it correctly. Some of Wikipedia's guidelines are frankly idiotic. I've seen users remove useful external links because they had already been used to cite information (they get lost in a blue sea of references and just because its a reference doesn't mean it is useless as an external link). I've also seen people try to remove external links by using them to cite info in the article. Any quality article is sure to contain in excess of 20/30 references and editors are fools if they think users look through them ( tiny text and all ) as much as they use external links. My advice is: Use whatever you want to cite information and if the same source would also make a good external lin, then put it there too. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 01:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Robin van Persie
Thanks for trying to clean this up - the move needed to be removed from the page history, as it was a blatant BIO violation - so, my apologies if its disappearance caused any unnecessary trauma. I think it's all straight now, and the move doesn't appear in the article history. Please let me know if there are any further problems. The editor responsible has been blocked indefinitely and needs to explain their actions. Kbthompson (talk) 10:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Rustamovich
You're welcome. I noticed that there was a question there about that article, and decided to find a reliable, external source to find out his patronymic. I too get annoyed when information on wiki articles is dropped in without references, especially on football articles (and especially after transfers!). This is second to the annoyance of having people move footballers from squad article to another purely on rumor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stochil (talk • contribs) 13:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Extremism
  This article was created by a POV pushing indian american just to let you know 86.151.123.180 (talk) 17:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm fully aware of Wikireader's opinions and allegiances but this has nothing to do with the topic. Islamic Extremism is present in Britain and British Pakistanis do form a portion of those involved in such activities. Indeed, I do not think much of the current form of the article but deletion is not the solution. A rewrite is needed and I have faith that editors, including user:Boston and I, will redress the current imbalance sooner rather than later. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 17:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I will ask for your advice when i need it. please stay away from my userpage if it bothers you.  I can make a hundred comments about what I think is wrong with your editing.  lets not get into that.  Cheers--Wikireader41 (talk) 19:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not? I'd like to hear what you have to say about my editing. Where am I going wrong? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You're apparently on the same side of the debate. If you two start arguing my head ess going to essplode.  Shake hands.  --Boston (talk) 21:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I know...it's like a socialist convention. We can all agree on the things that we dislike but we all disagree on the way forward! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 21:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I didnt send the message asking you to vote for delete just to make that clear in case Boston runs off complaining about it. I just wanted to let you know and inform you of wikireader41 and his hidden agenda whenever he claims of others being abusive dont hesitate to look at his own dirty marks before siding with him and im sure you wont after what you have discovered and im sure Boston has messaged wikireader41 (His new Pal) of this message giving him tips on how to keep the article and telling him to stay clear of you infact check wikireaders user page Boston has already informed him hope he learns civility and thanks for hearing me out :) 86.156.209.202 (talk) 18:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Julia Nunes
jaaaaaaa is Julia Nunes' user name at youtube, when I looked for it at wikipedia I didn't find her until i searched for her name so I added that redirect. Delete it if you want to, I am not very familiar yet with Wikipedia's policies. bcartolo (talk) 22:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank You!
There I went, blithely "fixing" all the banners when only the WP Biog banner needed fixing. How foolish of me to go to the added work.

When all the projects banners are brought into compliance, i. e., importance is replaced by priority, you will change all the other banners, right? I really hate to revisit old problems.
 * JimCubb (talk) 04:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

As I implied in what I wrote on the talk page for the category, the bots are not doing the job. Either the job should be ignored or some one should do the job. I chose the latter.
 * JimCubb (talk) 02:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

David N'Gog
First time it gets hit this morning, I'll take it to RPP. I got one of the IPs blocked briefly yesterday, but i'm trying to work out if it's one person IP hopping, as the IPs seem quite different. -- Ged UK  07:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It got done btw, i meant to pop back here earlier and tell you :) As of tomorrow (baring a total disaster) I'll be able to watch it myself :) -- Ged UK  19:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Islamic Extremism among British Pakistanis
Hello. if you are interested I have some information which I could place in your sandbox which would be useful if you want to write an article on Islamic Extremism in Britain. I did not see it coming either since their was no consensus and default is to keep. anyway thanx for all your efforts. I still do strongly feel this is an important topic which needs to be on wikipedia under whatever title is acceptable. Hopefully Barack Obama will listen to Bruce Riedel about these issues and work to counter this important threat in cooperation with other friendly nations. Cheers ;-)--Wikireader41 (talk) 21:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Feel free to put some sources and discuss on the sandbox talk page. I think Barack Obama has already started to counter the threat. Otherwise, as far as British citizens are concerned he's quite powerless. We'll see how things go. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 23:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * looks like you got a backup in your sandbox. if I come across any other useful info pertaining to this I will leave a link on the talk page.  Cheers;-)--Wikireader41 (talk) 02:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Dracula fish
Shubinator (talk) 06:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Conflict of Interest
You left the following message for me:

Conflict of interest
It appears you may have a conflict of interest given your name and you external link edits. Please either declare your interests or cease adding the links. You may discuss their addition at the talk pages. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 10:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

My interest is in promoting the sport of athletics. spikesmag.com is a site funded by the IAAF. I add the links to let people know we have extensive profiles and video footage of certain athletes.

talkback
-- Ged UK  10:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Taiwan (PRC Template)
Taiwan is a province of China. M ichael C heng 23:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Boganda
Thanks, but most of the credit goes to, who wrote most of the article. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 21:54, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Messi
I have some very fundamental issues with some of your comments and your removal of my edits on Messi in the intro. I would appreciate your reply, and if we are not in agreement then lets put our issues for a vote by others. Caps shown is to clarify my point, and should not be considered as rudeness or shouting

1. You write, "Messi is considered to be among the best young football players in the world, having been selected as both the FIFPro and World Soccer Magazine Young Player of the Year for three years running from 2005–2008. "

I write "Though only 21, Messi is widely considered one of the best football players in the world, having featured as one of the finalists in the FIFA World Player of the Year award over the last few years. His dribbling, playmaking ability and stunning individual goals have drawn comparisons to football legend Diego Maradona..... "

DO YOU GENUINELY BELIEVE MESSI IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE BEST "YOUNG" PLAYERS IN THE WORLD AS OPPOSED TO ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. HIS TOP RANKING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IN THE WORLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS IS TESTAMENT TO THAT. AND THAT AWARD IS NOT FOR YOUNG PLAYERS IT IS FOR ALL PLAYERS...

2. I WROTE "HIS DRIBBLING, PLAYMAKING AND STUNNING INDIVIDUAL GOALS HAVE DRAWN HIM COMPARISONS WITH MARADONA ..."

INDEED. PLEASE FOLLOW THE HISTORY OF THE ARTICLES AFTER BOTH MESSI'S HAND OF GOD GOAL... AND MESSIS GETAFE GOAL WHERE HE DRIBBLED PAST THE WHOLE TEAM EXACTLY LIKE MARADONA DID.. THAT IS THE POINT WHERE THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA UNIVERSALLY STARTED SCREAMING MARADONA.. THEREFORE STUNNING INDIVIDUAL GOALS INDEED.. THAT IS SO COMPLETELY AND FUNDAMENTALLY NOT SUBJECTIVE.. IT IS A FACT.. A PART OF MARADONAS FAME, WAS HIS STUNNING DRIBBLING AND INDIVIDUAL GOAL ABILITIY.. MESSI DOES JUST EXACTLY EXCACTLY THAT, AND IT IS NOT MY OPINION, PLEASE SPEND 5 MINUTES RESEARCHING THAT FACT...AND IT HAS BEEN REPEATED CONSISTENTLY.. INCLUDING JUST A WEEK BACK AGAINST MALAGA, AND HIS PLAY SETUP AGAINST VENEZUELA TWO DAYS AGO.. I HAVE SEEN MOST GAMES OF HIS AND READ ALL ARTICLES..

evidence 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzXsdZJ5AQ evidence 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcG1wjzsmXQ

3. FINALLY I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE YOU DELETE MY COMMENTS ON THE FIFA WORLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS.. AND TALK ABOUT A RELATIVELY LESS IMPORTANT YOUNG WORLD SOCCER PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD..????? AND THE CONTINOUS COMMENTS ON BEST "YOUNG" PLAYER IS REALLY REALLY REALLY NOT HOW 99% OF THE WORLD SEE'S IT.. HE IS SEEN AS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD.. NOT ONE OF THE BEST YOUNG PLAYERS IN THE WORLD.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.161.23.241 (talk) 10:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all, capital letters isn't really helping clarify your point; if that was the case then I'm sure all international relations would be conducted in caps. It's not the case, so don't do it. Secondly, perhaps you should read No original research: Wikipedia is only a reflection of real world sources, and you should use them to back up your statements. Thirdly, I think "playing style and ability" comparable to Maradona is even more of a complement than any hyperbole about a single goal that he scored against Getafe: Messi is more than that. Besides, talking about "stunning individual goals" makes you sound like a tabloid writer at best, and a besotted fifteen-year-old at worst.


 * Fourthly, I noted the young player of the year awards because those are the ones he's actually won and it represents that he is a young player; this is only the beginning of his career, hopefully he'll go on to achieve much more. Finally, when you state "best player in world" you are arguably including every living player, past or present. Such comparisons across generations are inherently flawed, and frankly you're are not going to get sources saying "Messi is as good as or better than Pele, Maradona, Beckenbauer, Zidane, Ronaldo, Cruyff, etc etc". I think the current, fully referenced, wording paints a more accurate, neutral picture. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 13:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Tyson Gay
I wanted to say congratulations on getting Tyson Gay up to GA status. It's gratifying to see others working hard on Olympics-related articles. Keep up the good work. H1nkles (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your sentiments on the Olympic Games article. The FAC process is far from perfect but I can't really fault the reviewers.  They look at hundreds of articles and really do yoeman's work for little praise, and they get a lot of grief from editors.  That said it does seem that the FA standard is a bit of a moving target that is hard to hit from time to time.  I envy your skill with biographies, I stick with non-human subjects, at least for now.  I look forward to reading more of your articles.  H1nkles (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Neil Gaiman Scientology thing
Hey, just wondering whether you'd have a look at this and see what I've put, there's loads of back history (as previously discussed) and User:ChrisO is extremely defensive about any removal of the Scientology references that he worked hard to prove. I really don't think that it is important for the reasons outlined, just wondering how you felt. --Fol de rol troll (talk) 23:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem
I see you saying things on the Jeff Buckley page. My lechtrechonodes are not submitting but I am well. Thank you for caring and an IDO coupon would still be useful. Much luv for the NEW YEAR!!! Linguistixuck (talk) 22:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I like to jekel until I'm a blast from the stone, except if I need a shyzelhoff—then I'll "go to the hall ner ner ner" to get to shlongendoozle. I'd rather get sallied with a loof lirpa though. Peace out Man of Mercer! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 09:38, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Your words do much towards my amusment but I do not understand. My girl friend Lira warns me that you are making fun. Silly is fun but are you not unkind? Linguistixuck (talk) 01:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Ryder
The relevant category would be . Jayjg (talk) 04:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Lionel Messi
Even though your rewrite on Messi's page (about yesterday's Champions game) is good, definitely better than the original poster's, I think it's overly detailed sports commentary and should be removed. There is a constant battle in many player's articles with editors adding play-by-play. I don't think we should be commenting on individual games and individual goals in an encyclopedia. Thoughts? -- Alexf(talk) 14:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Frank Murphy
Your addition of "Reading Notes" was grand. I didn't know such a thing existed, and this article was written with footnotes in the sources, and then they moved the "Notes". This had been a problem with this article, and you solved it. Thanks for the insight, which is a rare and wonderful thing! Best to you. Happy editing. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 20:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC) Stan
 * God knows, I've worked on that article a lot, alright.
 * Even if your solution was without precedent, it might be precedental. It was a damn fine idea, IMHO.  Even if it ain't in the MOS.  Strange situations require strange solutions.  You've tempered style with 'Sillyfolkboy' kind of like the subject of the article did with "Justice."  Thaks for the help!  7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 20:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC) Stan
 * It would be nice if you put something (anything) on your user page, thereby getting the red out of your edit summaries. Given that you've been round for a year, it seems odd that you look like a 'newbie'.  Just a gentle suggestion.  Happy editing.   7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 12:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC) Stan
 * That's the trick you see! I see it as a little test for people, some editors just aren't as patient with (possible newbie) "red name" editors as they would be with "blue name" editors. Needless to say, anyone who edits the articles I tend to edit is familiar with me, and one click on my talk page or contributions list dismisses any "newbie" thoughts. Also, I had a user page once but it was just an angry person insulting me!
 * Someone mentioned that I could make a user page and alter my signature to keep the text red but I've still yet to work out how to do that. I'd fancy chucking in a link to my contributions too. I'll give it some thought, this page is getting pretty busy as it is! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 12:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I understand "the test." Nevertheless, you could click on "User page" above, edit it, and put in a statement that "WP:User pages" are just a myth, and you would be done with it. Not to mention that some of our Wiki coeditors actually have some useful and interesting things on their user pages. Admittedly, I don't. Haven't thought that an exposition on my user page means much, although my statement of the edit count might ward off silly editorial interference. Anywayz, it's your decision. Obviously, you've been doing great and prolific work, and anybody who bothered to look would figure that out. Happy editing. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 13:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC) Stan

TWN/ROC and TPE's flag issue
dear all the wikipedia users who usually visit this page. i hereby want to inform everyone no matter you from PRC, TWN/ROC or any other countries. please respect the TWN/ROC's title and flag. although TWN/ROC uses term CHINESE TAIPEI to participate most international games, this page clearly indicates the host country not member country. thus, there is no problem when i indicate the host nation is Taiwan(Republic of China) based on the WIKIPEDIA policy. other translation of this page all indicate that 2009's world game host country is TAIWAN rather than CHINESE TAIPEI, for the latter name is just a member, not a country. therefore, please do not ruin the page by removing the title and flag of TWN/ROC. on the other side, some people or citizens of TWN/ROC may favor either TAIWAN or ROC. thereby, being compromised, i would add these two names together as Taiwan(Republic of China). i hereby strongly warn the people from TWN/ROC, please do not start the title battle of Taiwan and ROC. respect each other. for other foreigners, some of you may believe the official term for TWN/ROC must be CHINESE TAIPEI, so i would concede to add TPE's flag to interpret it is a team name of TWN/ROC. i believe that i already explain very well about the CHINESE TAIPEI term is never a country. it is just a team name. also, CHINESE TAIPEI itself is a political conflict name. if you look for the world game 2009 game website, you can see the introduction of kaohsiung is a larger city of TAIWAN. therefore, indicate it is part of Taiwan is absolutely accurate. thanks台灣護士 (talk) 17:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Youre comment on my site
Actually mine was a stable edit. The others changed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.2.159 (talk) 00:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Clean up complete
Symmetry. Debresser (talk) 01:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Traverse
i take it away for ruining an article on the traverse theatre Edinburgh and a article on traverse theatre —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saracoola (talk • contribs) 22:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problems! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 22:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

erm yes, you have done it wrong again, style of theatre and a separate company named after that theatre... so there needs to be a page for the company and a page explaining about the traverse style of theatre. (traverse style of theatre is where the audience face one another with the action in the middle) yes there is a company called the traverse theatre company however it is a separate thing to the seating style of a type of theatre

Saracoola (talk) 08:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:MedalEuropeanChampionships
I reverted the edit you made to the template listed above, removing the athletic link from it. If you want to put it in, there is a template that you can do this. We need to keep this and the world championship template as sport-neutral as possible. Thanks. Chris (talk) 15:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Friday Brown
Yo dude, have a quick look at this and see if it's something we could build an article from. There are IMDB and Allmusic pages, but extremely limited ones. I'm looking for more... Fol de rol troll (talk) 16:06, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks possible, the press clippings from the Record Mirror might help as does the fact that she had major label support and releases. IMDB and Allmusic pages only bolster the case for reliable sources and notability. We can still use the Manchester Beat page for the information. I recommend building in userspace before moving to mainspace. Starting here will do. I'll certainly give you a hand. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 16:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Michael Owen
Can the Michael Owen page be the disambiguation page then? I know Michael Owen footballer might be the most prominent in your eyes. But the rugby player was captain of Wales, the 1000th person to be capped by Wales and won an historic Grand Slam in 2005. Thatsitivehadenough (talk) 20:02, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, put it back then. Thatsitivehadenough (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats OK, Sorry I caused a problem. Thatsitivehadenough (talk) 20:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. If someone doesn't agree with it and wants it remove it doesn't matter. I don't want to cause any arguments. Thanks again. Thatsitivehadenough (talk) 07:51, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

OCD and en dash
Highly-edited sources such as the NEJM seem to use an en dash in "obsessive–compulsive disorder"; see, for example, Jenike 2004 or Huyser et al. 2009. Almost everybody uses either a hyphen or an en dash, and Wikipedia style is to prefer an en dash here. But shouldn't we be discussing this in Talk:Obsessive-compulsive disorder  rather than on our talk pages? Eubulides (talk) 19:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Animated series logo
The animated series has a different logo. Because of this, and because there is no other way to represent the logo, the placement of the logo is justified. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I just thought it didn't really offer any important insight into the series. A screen capture of the series would be much more descriptive and worthy of a fair use image. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 08:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Abusive Edit Summaries on The Quintuple
"...now Everton have done the deed". "No laughing here please. Who are you? Charles Itandje?"

need I remind you about No personal attacks. this article is not one about manchester united - a central aspect of why it passed AfD is that it was not - it is about the possibility of winning these 5 trophies in a single season. your recent edits simply seem to be partisan vandalism to this article. i've reverted your edits, now please stop. Jw2035 (talk) 06:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to make sure that you know the above editor has been accused of sockpuppetry on his talk page and seems to come into quite frequent conflict with you. Just check out his talk page. Maybe have some form of chat with an admin or something. Also, I have no idea what this guy's referring to. Fol de rol troll (talk) 21:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There isn't conclusive proof of sockpuppetry. Anyway, I thought I'd gained his respect through all the work I put into Treble (association football) but evidently not. He is clearly a devout Red Devil with a prejudice against a certain other red team. I'm sure he'd love to point out that I'm a POV pushing Liverpool fan (as he has attempted above) but there is the little problem that I have contributed a good deal of content to Rio Ferdinand, Wes Brown, Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney and Alex Ferguson amongst others, where as he reduces himself to sniping edits on Liverpool pages. I'm sure he took much pleasure in writing Ghost goal. I shall take the same pleasure on The Quintuple, except that my edits will have a neutral point of view, present the entirety of the facts, and have the approval of other editors. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 22:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:AFD/The Lazys (2nd nomination)
As you made the original nomination for this article, you may be interested in the above. Black Kite 19:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Still just as non-notable as before. Cheers for the heads up. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 21:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD Hoax
Just to let you know that an article you have improved, Dil (Surname), is under AfD at Articles for deletion/Dil (Surname), as it is obviously a hoax written by a 15 year old kid. Please place your comments there. --  李博杰    | —Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 12:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Ferguson stats
It's a good point, but no, matches that go to penalties are always recorded as draws, no matter the result of the shootout. Weird I know! —Preceding unsigned comment added by RednessInside (talk • contribs) 21:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I know but weird Wikipedia rules are there for a reason (apparently). Think of all those times England didn't lose at major tournaments though. LOL

RednessInside (talk) 21:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it is, but doesn't hurt to make sure.

RednessInside (talk) 21:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikireader attacks again
after a long pause in his mission he has returned to pollute the british pakistani article and is now adding his pov again please try and stop him from editing pakistani article im getting tired of policing this racist editor 86.158.178.56 (talk) 19:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Removing key parts of an article
That was my intention. That paragraph was not suitable for an encyclopedia, it was simply a fishing guide. PotentialDanger (talk) 22:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Didn't notice that I removed coords. PotentialDanger (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Hidden Comment is a good idea
I've never done one. Would you please do this one? I'll look at it afterward and learn a new thing. (Give a man a fish...Teach a man to fish... yada, yada, yada) Thanks. Thanks also, for all your hard work on the quality of this article. Next to oxygen and maybe sex, this is the most important topic in the English language. Not that I have a POV or anything. :) Cheers, David in DC (talk) 11:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

GB Olympic team
I would agree with that, and I have been providing those references since day one in various discussions of the topic of the British team at the Olympics. For some reason, some people seem to think that either Wikipedia is a democracy or that television captions are a substitute for reliable sources. Bastin 03:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

please do not vandalize my webpage. thank u —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ertert12345 (talk • contribs) 19:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Joe Calzaghe
Hi Sillyfolkboy, I saw that you removed the flag from the infobox on the Joe Calzaghe page. It is not only quite usual to have a nationality flag in the infobox of boxers' pages (e.g. Steve Bendall, Robert Lloyd-Taylor, Ted "Kid" Lewis, Clinton McKenzie, Terry Marsh (boxer), Alan Minter, David Price (boxer), Steve Bendall, Robert Lloyd-Taylor, etc., etc.), it is unusual for there not to be a nationality flag in the infobox of boxers' pages. Do you intend to remove them all or would you prefer to self revert? Daicaregos (talk) 08:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. Bearing in mind that so many of the other boxer's pages show flags, it may be better to reinstate this one until a definitive decision has been made at the boxing project level. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 15:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, I have reinstated icon. I noticed that Talk:Wikiproject Boxing has discussed the subject previously (extensively), but without resolution. I have the feeling that the boxing pages do not want to be governed by the WP:MoS in this respect. Still, we shall see. Regards, Daicaregos (talk) 15:20, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Userpage
I'm not sure what's going on, but since you weren't the one to make it, do you want it deleted? Nev1 (talk) 23:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Very odd especially since it was one of the first things the user did. Your user page has been deleted now. Nev1 (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

European records
Another link for record Yushamnov EAA list WildCherry06 (talk) 10:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

here ya go. wear it proudly

 * For this.
 * Right on cue, and completely by coincidence, see the last line of The Harmonicats. Ling.Nut (talk&mdash;WP:3IAR) 14:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

No probs about the postcodes.

Re: Coisty
How dare ye. An e-mail's a-coming your way. - Dudesleeper / Talk  22:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing the duplicate of which you speak. - Dudesleeper / Talk  22:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Fleet Foxes Album
Hi, you removed the Robert Christgau review for not being "informative". The thing is that every time an album recieves a dud (the "bomb) it means that it was so bad it doesn't need much further thoughts about it, here you can find all the information. For example please see the Review Robert Christgau gave the Black Keys' album Attack & Release, if you go to the website of the review you will see that all the albums that recieved a dud have no more lines dedicated to it. I hope I'm able to restore my contribution now, regards.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoaquinMiralles (talk • contribs) 02:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand that the links of the reviews must have information detailing the albums, but in this case my point is that all the duds reviews (bombs) are only icons. So if all the duds are mere icons should all of them be erased from wikipedia for being not so "informative"? I'm not a Robert Christgau fan, but I think that that would be like showing only the good reviews of him. Maybe the act of labelling an album with a mere icon is an act of sloth as you say but is his point of view and since he has been a music critic for many years that must be respected.
 * I think that in this case it (the duds) shows that he disliked the album, but is up to the person to judge whether is bad or good. I personally liked very much this album and all the other reviews give it lots of praise, but I think its also important to show the other side of the coin. The act of putting the dud among the reviews shows that not ALL the music critics liked the album, because without it, it appears that it was universally praised but since RC dind't...that means it wasn't universally praised, only generally and that makes it more objective. I hope you understand my point, regards.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by JoaquinMiralles (talk • contribs) 02:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I responded with my thoughts on Joaquin's talk page, Lim. --sevendaughters 13:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sevendaughters (talk • contribs)


 * :: How is RC's opinion 'minority'? His reviews are syndicated to many press sources. His reviews are as prominent and critically respected as Roger Ebert's or the entire crit-base of any major publication. If you don't believe me, go into my room and grab a book called In Their Own Write which has a few pages devoted to him. If you can find these three star reviews, then add them to the page. --sevendaughters 13:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sevendaughters (talk • contribs)

Jesse Owens
You are correct. I didn't do much on this article. I probably intended to, and put it up on my list (which I did a long time ago). I would definitely be interested in an athletics project. Thanks. Wallie (talk) 05:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

award
PS: I think collecting these things is abit like collecting decals/stickers on your car of filing cabinet. Funny to see what turns up. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

project athletics
Hi I'd like to join but the table seems to be on a subpage of yours or I'm too much of a luddite to add myself. Could you possibly add my name/comment for me? I'd like to put:-

User:Sticky Parkin General interest in running, and in removing spam, POV and inaccuracies from health/sport articles.

Thanks for the invite.:) Sticky Parkin 18:24, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

You Moved Talk Tadese Tola
I moved it to Talk:Tadese Tola and moved Tadesse Tola Woldegebrel to Tadese Tola. Would you make certain that the redirect tags are applied properly? Thank you. By the way, which is correct, one "s" or two?
 * JimCubb (talk) 21:49, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

From what I have seen each page must be moved separately. It is essentially a cut and paste operation, right? Make the new page then cut and past the contents from the old page into the new page. Only one page can be selected and cut at one time so each page must be done separately, old article to new article and old talk to new talk.

You corrected many problems including a wrong last name and a misspelled first name. This is good. You also now know that the pages of an article must be moved separately. This is better.

Happy Editing!
 * JimCubb (talk) 00:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Wes Brown
No, it's only players who play in at least 10 Premier League matches who get medals, unless the club applies to the Premier League for special dispensation. This often happens in the case of second-choice goalkeepers, e.g. Tomasz Kuszczak received medals in both 2006-07 and 2007-08 despite only playing in about two games each season. – PeeJay 20:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeah, it's difficult not to learn things on Wikipedia! If you're interested, the full regulations for the Premier League can be found here. I'm sure the regulation about medals is in there somewhere. – PeeJay 20:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Category:Pages with missing references list
There are almost a hundred pages in Category:Pages with missing references list every day. A lot more than any one editor can handle. Any suggestions? Debresser (talk) 01:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

100/200m
Numbers speak for themselves? Only complete ignorance would lead someone to believe that higher maximum speeds are reached in the 200m. The fastest 10m splits always occur in the 100m, maximum speed is reached at roughly 60m in elite sprinters, this would occur on the bend during 200m yeilding a slower speed. Also the nature of the 200m means that it is ran at a slightly sub-maximal pace.

I'm currently studying a masters in sports science and am apalled by the futile attempts at propaganda on the 100m and 200m pages to make the 200m appear a 'faster' event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ippikin (talk • contribs) 10:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Just because a higher peak velocity is reached during the 100m over a 10m split (somewhat arbitrary) does not mean it is 'faster' per se - just on this particular yardstick. The argument is something of a non-event anyway and I suggest that you should be 'appalled' by some of the more genuine tragedies in life. Sevendaughters (talk) 17:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Tadese Tola
Hi, I noticed your edits to this article. Something you may be aware of is that Ethiopians do not have family names; the first part of their name is their given name while the last part is their father's name. As an example, were George W. Bush renamed in this manner, he'd be known as "George George". (And then there is the custom of "horse names", which I'll spare you.) -- llywrch (talk) 16:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Very strange indeed. Does this effect the way I should write Ethiopians' articles then? This would explain why i've seen some Ethiopians that have been listed as related but have distinct names. It would also explain why many Ethiopians have the same name (which is as frustrating as distinguishing between Chinese "Li"s or all the John Smiths!). Cheers for that. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!  17:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it can -- specifically how you refer to the person. For example, in the article Tirunesh Dibaba she should be referred to either by her full name "Tirunesh Dibaba" or as "Tirunesh"; Dibaba is her father's name. The exception is when the individual has decided to "Westernize" her/his name & uses her/his father's name as a legal surname. (In those cases, there should be a note explaining this, so to avoid frustrating edit wars.) And then there is the complication when the first name is a compound, as in the case of Haile Selassie: I don't know how many times I've had to correct editors who refer to him as "Haile" or "Selassie". Actually, it's all fairly simple once you know the rules -- & feel free to contact me if you have any questions. -- llywrch (talk) 17:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

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Hey Sillyfolkoy, I received your invitation to work on the Athletics project. While I didn't know there was such a project, I've been editing or more correctly, fixing errors, particularly in Athletics content, for a couple of years now. Certainly add me to your project. Unfortunately, I don't know the deeper wiki coding for the addition to your list. I've searched but can't find a place (where other people's names appear) to add my name. I have not spent the time to explore the behind the scenes wiki communication much. . . though my frustration with the information deletion gestapo is growing. Mostly I fix glaring errors or links that just bother me too much. I have not spent the extensive time required to bring things like each athlete's profile up to the statistical standard I know the average athletics fan would appreciate. You know the difference and so do I. There is a mass of content, in this subject, that is vastly incomplete. Many former stars, Olympic Gold Medalists and legends, have merely a short attachment mentioning that they had won a Gold medal. While for many, that was their lone crowning achievement, others have an additional career ignored within their wikipedia entry. There is plenty of work in here to do, if only we have the time to devote to it. Trackinfo (talk) 03:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Mo Farah
I was going to add this info to Farah's page, but on closer inspection, the time and record the BBC claim doesn't appear to be the actual record. Does this happen often? Or is it some total no-mark none-recognised record. It's possibly the fastest time in a 10K road race in Britain, but so what? I've not added anything to Farah until I've got some more insight. Fol de rol troll (talk) 11:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Looking at that source you had, Scrutton is listed there with a slower time than Farah's run, and his run is in America! I think the Beeb just stacked it, personally. I'm not sure whether the event is noteworthy if Farah didn't break a record, so I think I'm just gonna leave it. Tough tits Mo, run faster next time! Fol de rol troll (talk) 21:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Copyediting
Since you did lots of comments about The Lion King, I would like to know if you can review and give me examples on what needs improvement on Aladdin (film), to help it survive a GAR. Thanks. igordebraga ≠ 02:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

wp:athletics
Hello, sorry I'm not quite sure, but is okay to start adding articles about middle and long distance runners and marathons to the new wikiproject? Should this be replacing the old wiki running project, or is it okay to have articles in both projects? Thanks --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 13:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Riise
Hey. Your opinion would pe apriciated at Talk:John_Arne_Riise. Rettetast (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Popular pages bot
This popular pages top list looks very interesting, so I was about to file a request to create one for WikiProject Croatia, of which I'm a member. I could ask for WP Athletics too while I'm at it - or it's still too early for that?

Raymond Stewart
Hi, this is re: your recent edit to the Raymond Stewart article. Your edit added the following: "the first Jamaican to break the 10-second barrier." While this is probably true for the era of electronic timing (I have not looked it up, but do not doubt that it is), Donald Quarrie was credited with equaling the world record in 9.9 seconds in 1976. For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_100_metres_world_record_progression Just FYI. Toyracerx (talk) 00:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Guibert
I created a page for Mary Guibert-- I'd love to see your contributions. I'm wondering how much of the criticism she's recieved should be mentioned. I'm pretty deep in the Buckleydom and pro-Guibert, so I have no perspective. But at the same time, people refer to her on jeffbuckleycommunity.com as the Buckleynazi. Linguistixuck (talk) 01:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Bruce Springsteen GAR notification
Bruce Springsteen has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Please state why a source is unreliable
This edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danu_(Asura)&diff=next&oldid=286707813

You removed a link statign it was unreliable, Why so as this was a specfic reference that had been reinstated?

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Alonso
Good idea for the edit - may slow down the edits anyway! ````

Template:Athletics record progressions
I was going to impart my new-found knowledge of template creation on just this very idea, but (thankfully) you beat me to it! It makes accessing these records much more easier - well done!  Macarism  Talk   00:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanx!
Hey sillyboy!

Thanx a lot for making the article on Athletics at the 2003 Afro-Asian Games. I really appreciate it. If you like, please see the article 2003 Afro-Asian Games, and leave me some comments.

Cheers,

Ankitbhatt (talk) 13:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Voice type policy?
Hello again. I have a question: what is the wikipedia policy on sourcing voice types? Journalists seem very quick to guess someone's range or voice type and I'm a bit concerned about that becoming the basis of "authoritative" wikipedia content. Arxack (talk) 04:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC) (the former linguistixuck/languixack)

Team GBR
Yeah thats fine, merge the two. There is lots of hidden text on the other page, so read it and do what you want with it. I modelled mine directly on the 2007 version (which I also did), but you can tidy this up if you think it's a bit scruffy (which it is)... Lots of work for you now haha. Cheers, P  e  ter  will  15:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Bit of Help?
Yo man, is any photo that I can access on Flickr.com free use? Read their ToS and it seems to suggest so, if this is the case, it's a great source of photos of athletes. I have a pic of Dayron Robles to use if this is so. Could you explain how I upload all the stuff? I'm going to do his article as the current one is shunt. Fol de rol troll (talk) 11:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Bastards! All non-commercial. Fol de rol troll (talk) 11:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Response to you flooding my talk page
I'm only going to tell you this once: I'm not asking you, and I sure as hell am not asking you kindly, if you don't stop flooding my talk page with your damn chain mail, I'm going to ask the admins to ban you.Wikieditor1988 (talk) 06:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Revert
I apologise, I have restored the page to it's previous.Kjp993 (talk) 19:48, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

You know what?
i've a nice list of what to edit next too Jw2035 (talk) 16:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it then. It sure doesn't help that my edits are verifiable, neutral, and improve the articles though. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  15:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

2009 World Championships in Athletics
Hi, could you tell me a few of your IAAF WC sources? I see you editing several pages of the IAAF WC before I can find any officially published results. Reason: I'd like to edit a few pages myself and contribute a little but I don't have the sufficient sources.

Greetings —Preceding unsigned comment added by DY1992shiny (talk • contribs) 20:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, the writing of the nation sites is quite fun for me (it's the only thing I'm doing since Friday afternoon apart from watching the events), but I won't be able to finish it, because I will have nearly no time on weekdays. Please try and get some more editors to help me! Cheers Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 13:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Vili and her (not) Scottish father - mea culpa
Indeed, we're all victims of a bum source here. I just now located one that names her mother and corrected all the other wikipedia language versions and added the source where I could about her mother. I should send her flowers to Auckland, I know she is a Mormon, maybe through her church. --Mareklug talk 12:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Sea eagle
Thanks for your suggestion about Sea eagle. I think it's a good improvement. &mdash;JerryFriedman (Talk) 23:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

In the news
It's a tad harsh to remove the Usain Bolt hook barely seven hours after he ran the 200 metres record isn't it? Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  01:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I overlooked the update. I've restored the item.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention!  —David Levy 02:05, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Your athletics invitation
Sorry mate, I've been on a REALLY long wikibreak due to tension over my GCSE results. I'll get stuck into various articles regarding that ASAP. <3 AyrtonProst   Pitwall  15:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Les jeux de la francophonie
Hey, t y for your message, for me, either way goes as long as there are redirect pages but for Cargoking and Candlewicke who expressed their concerns here it would be better to move the article to 2009 Jeux de la Francophonie, since it follows the naming convention for all the previous editions. So in keeping with their ideas I proposed deletion of the redirect page (2009 Jeux de la Francophonie) in order to facilitate the move of 2009 Francophone games there and keep all the edit data intact Eli  +  22:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I say we keep the links for solely to indicate the agenda of the medal ceremonies, these can be altered to link to subsection is the main athletics article Check the first blue dot in the table for example. Eli  +  07:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Cyprus disqualified
Hey, cyprus WAS disqualified for exceeding the permitted number of naturalized players (all of the players were not of cypriot nationality), the "cypriot" team had won 4 matches against each of Tunisia (66-42), Québec (90-47),  the Ivory coast     (80-64) and Mali (73-47) before the discovery of the fraud. The cypriot team was formed by one American,  one Polish, one Serb and 2 Croat players.The organizers proposed, in keeping with the spirit of the games to maintain the scheduled match against france but its result was not taken into account.
 * yeah, it is DYK material. I'm sorry i did not find any source saying why there were no men's basket ball tournaments, one source vaguely implies that the FGames are contemporaneous with a european basketball championship, ill look into it more thoroughly. Eli  +  11:45, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Tadese GAN
It's on hold  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 04:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Reflist
Would you be willing to give a little attention once in a while to Category:Pages with missing references list? As you can see on User:Debresser/My work on Wikipedia, I have added a lot more error categories to my daily wikignoming, and although it is true that SmackBot takes care of a lot of them, it still takes quite some time every day. I usually wait until right after SmackBot made his edits, as can be seen by putting User:SmackBot/References Log on your watchlist, to avoid doing work for the bot. Debresser (talk) 10:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Florence Marathon
Nice job on Florence Marathon! Keep up the good work! Location (talk) 09:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Alemayehu Bezabeh
Lo que ha pasado es que he estado revirtiendo vandalismos realizados en ese artículo y modifique lo del avión pensando que también era un vandalismo sin comprobar las fuentes. Puede que fuera un acto irresponsable si se aplica la tercera acepción del diccionario de la RAE, pero también se puede entender como la segunda por lo que me lo estás diciendo que yo soy un irresponsable, y creo que tratar a una persona de irresponsable por un solo acto es una valoración un poco precipitada y con poco fundamento, puesto que además ni siquiera me conoces un poco. Hay otras muchas formas de decir las cosas sin crear malos rollos. Gracias por revertir mi descuido, un saludo --Cembo123 (talk) 22:31, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Hi again sillyfolkboy. It's been a long time.

I have finally thought that it is the right time. I have nominated the article 2003 Afro-Asian Games for a Good Article Assessment. If you are interested, you can go ahead and review the article as you see fit. Remember to not hesitate in giving your suggestions for the article's improvement.

By the way, the highlight about Frankie Fredericks has been added to the article.

Cheers! A belated Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Year to you!

Ankitbhatt (talk) 13:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Gold Label races template
Hey thanks for adding this, but shouldn't there be an article about what exactly this is? I never heard of it before and was curious to read about it.. (the history, the criteria, etc.), but the template doesn't have a link, nor does an article seem to exist. Seems like we have a chicken before the egg here.. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 21:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Achievements tables
Hi Darius! I've noticed you've been making edits to achievements tables such as this. I think this is a good improvement as the tables do look a bit squashed up and the space left on a new wide table is generally enough for a dangling infobox or image.

I was wondering if you think its a good idea to create a AchievementTable template which could transclude the table code? (i.e. class="wikitable" style=" text-align:center; font-size:95%;" width="75%"). I suggest this because table code can seem a little tricky at times but a simple, standardised template could give newer editors the confidence to put their own tables in.

I'd support a whole sale switch over to your new style regardless. The plain, small wikitable ones don't look too great, but I'd be especially glad to see the back of these outdated monstrosities!

Also, seeing as you've done a bunch of Pan American Games stuff: what is your opinion on this? Cheers, Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 11:02, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Two great ideas: the AchievementTable and the Pan American Games proposal! Regards, Darius Dhlomo (talk)


 * Although I don't know what this discussion is about specifically, I'd favor a general "drift" away from most tables, replacing them with text. Text is what an encyclopedia is about. Geschichte (talk) 18:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

When I'm talking about how tables are bad, very bad edits such as these are what I have in mind. Geschichte (talk) 09:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Frank Lampard Career statistics table
Hi Sillyfolkboy,

Someone has vandalized Frank Lampard's career statistics table and erased his goals assists and apppearances to a lower total. Can you sort it out please.

2010 Asian Indoor Athletics Championships
Hi, unfortunately both asianathletics.org and athletics.ir are wrong ! I watched the medal ceremony and the vietnamese girl also got the bronze ! you know the female events were held separately and I think that is the reason why they did this mistake ! I found a picture of the medal ceremony and you can see two girls in the third place here. also I corrected some of the names. you know the asian names are a little different. you can write a name in many different ways and all of them are not wrong but what I wrote is more correct ! --Mohsen1248 (talk) 00:38, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Alvin Kraenzlein
In adding the date code, I was being bold. Adding the code parses the age for convenience. Haven't you ever read someone's bio and said, how old were they? Also, age is often shown in infoboxes (via the same calc code), but not every article has, or needs, an infobox. In the case of Olympic athletes like Alvin Kraenzlein, usually the only infobox is one of their medal record, not their personal data (name/locations/dates/whatever). I don't see any reason not to include an inline age calc where reasonable, and I couldn't find a policy against it; if you know of one, please tell me about it. Thanks! I also don't care if it gets reverted, it doesn't matter enough. Salamurai (talk) 19:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I'm not bothered or offended, I hope I didn't come across as offended. I didn't reply previously because I didn't want to forget what I came to Wikipedia for at the time. I still think it's useful to show the age, tho I agree the double-paren looks bad. I don't know of another way to do it, tho. A deceased person is easy, just type it in, but a living person, it doesn't update automagically like it should if it's just typed in. Since you questioned I've looked for other templates to do it, but haven't found anything. I don't plan on reverting other instances where I coded for age, but I'm not going to continue until I can find a better way. Salamurai (talk) 03:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Meike Kröger
I took the liberty of expanding Meike Kröger a bit and adding it to the DYK hook about Svetlana Shkolina - although Kröger could stand well on her own, with a hook centered on Kyrgyzstan. It just fitted so well together with Shkolina in that they achieved the exact same feat. Geschichte (talk) 18:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Murky history
It just happened so that I've lived with top athletes for a couple of years .. There are too many reasons for the decline of sports in some countries and slow progress overall in some sports. Just to mention a few: restrictions on tools (poles, javelins, etc), restriction on doping, huge flow of athletes from East Europe (should never be underestimated), drop of prestige of sports in many countries whereas financial support is uneven. We can go on with this topic for ages, but I would rather not pretend I know and understand that all (and wish you the same ;-) .. Heck, if you want my opinion - the drive to excel for the country was much much stronger reason than doping. You should know better than I at least a dozen of clean athletes of that time who are still legends now. Materialscientist (talk) 03:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I shouldn't even start this .. The power of that drive (excel for a country, especially in non-team sport) is not easy to understand for those who hadn't leaved in some places. Just an example that came to mind - Emil Zátopek and alike who would get to the top mostly by persistence, not only talents like Sergey Bubka. The end of cold war brought a much more personal and egoistic attitude. No doubt, doping was widespread too .. and I really should go away from here :) Materialscientist (talk) 04:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In my experience, "nationalism" was not an issue among athletes, thus Zátopek is hardly characteristic in this sense. Not to sell WP:OR, I remember an interview with some top "capitalist" athlete of the cold war era who was shocked when after some world cup they got together with a bunch of (Soviets as I recall) and realized that they are not "brainwashed robots" but normal guys, telling anecdotes about the socialism and Soviet regime :) .. Materialscientist (talk) 04:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Athletics
It is not clear to me why you feel the need to start a separate wikiproject which duplicates the scope of the long-standing WP:RUN. Nor is it clear why you would feel the need to engage in personal attacks on any project page. Life is more fulfilling when people emphasize the positive. Racepacket (talk) 11:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Track and field athletics
A massive edit of the article was undertaken by User:Mipchunk. I wrote him this:

That is a massive rewrite of a very important article. Rather than simply reverting it, I'd rather open up a discussion, knowing the previous contents, developed over years through the eyes of numerous editors including myself, are still saved in the article's history. I'll forward a version of this note to User:Sillyfolkboy so this discussion can be included amongst other of the project's contributors.

In my eyes, its not entirely bad for the article to include numerous categories, and to run long. As open as the previous version looked, all the different categories of discussion were relatively brief and to the point--a few might have needed some tidying. This main page is our portal to the many specific sub-articles about the sport. You've deleted a lot of material, some of it is NOT duplicated in such an orderly fashion anywhere else--most particularly the list of events that has been going through some recent evolution. Sub-articles could be created to make up for those deletions, but the trend on Wikipedia is to merge down lesser significant items into a master article, which this was. Users tend to want to get their information in one place, rather than having to search blindly through multiple articles to get their basic information. As I tour Wikipedia, I still find interesting articles that should link back to this main page, with an introduction. Eliminating as much as you did, there is less organized opportunity for such links. Some of the parts you kept are lesser significant addendum to parts you deleted. The sport is a literal three ring circus, with lots of things involved. Our main article should include that aspect rather than filtering out significant information in favor of brevity.

In the interest of brevity and my time, I'm not going to dive into all the specifics yet. You have one opinion, I have another and I think many more interested minds should be heard from before such a massive edit is finalized.Trackinfo (talk) 18:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Sillyfolkboy, I have reviewed your work-in-progress Track and Field article. It looks pretty good. There are some things that I would personally change, but it's not very important, and I would rather see the article come to fruition first before editing it. In light of your progress with that article, my edits to the Athletics main article are somewhat obsolete. However, I will work to prepare that article for the transition into a "hub" article to the four main categories of athletics: Track and Field, Cross Country Running, Road running, and Racewalking. As an aside, I notice in your draft article that you state the Mountain running is another major category of athletics. Traditionally it has not been considered apart from cross country, though only very recently (past decade) they created an organization, the World Mountain Running Association, which organizes mountain running independently from the IAAF. However, while now there is an entirely separate organization for this category of running, mountain running is still technically subsumed by cross country running. Mipchunk (talk) 07:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Frank Lampard assist stats
Hi Sillyfolkboy,

You should include Lampard's assists in his CAREER STATISTICS TABLE, he has 151 premier league assists to his name, I hope these Links help: http://www.premiersoccerstats.com/epl.html# (open up the page, click on records, then player all-time, next view assists or goals category). Also this other link shows how many number of assists he has in each premier league season: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=8941&cc=5739 (the number of assists is under the letter A in the tabel which means assists).

The reason I think you should include Lampard's assists is because I've season on Francesc Fabregas's and Lionel Messi's wikipedia page's, Career statistics table, they're number of assists are included as well as goals and appearances.

I thought I'd ask you as I have no clue of what I'm doing. Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperFrankieLampard-CFC (talk • contribs) 15:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi again Sillyfolkboy,


 * Thanks for doing that and for sending me a link of how to edit article's simply. I will try and find more reliable links of Lampard's West Ham career of his assists, I think thats very hard to come by also I don't think he played much for Swansea, he only played like 9 games for them on loan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperFrankieLampard-CFC (talk • contribs)


 * No worries mate. Information that pre-dates the widespread use of the internet tends to be very hard to find! Give me a shout if you need anything. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  13:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Football 40
You removed the section about the "Football 40" from the List of world records in athletics as it is not a legitimate track event. So stipulated. However on this side of the pond, there are a lot of people who do not know the difference and I think the appropriate disclaimer, as I had written it, should be in the article as it existed under non-standard events. Its a common comparison here. Lots of people here in the U.S. come to Wikipedia seeking that information and should get that perspective. We are a major information source. Some meet directors even include such events for promotional purposes--the Millrose Games had one this year. Its absence could lead to people trying to insert such a record into the non-standard events.Trackinfo (talk) 06:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Problem
Hi! See this edit. This is a problem - I can't see from the template that medal box are depecrated ...? I've tried to notify the user of his wide array of problematic edits, but frankly I'm not the most patient anymore. I'm tired of leaving messages that are not answered or cared about. I'd like to see some sanctions, but what do you think? Geschichte (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

2010 Commonwealth Games
was a fact. read it at the announcement time, just couldnt remember the source so i added a fact tag to see if another remembered.Lihaas (talk) 06:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Its not corrupt. there was nothing underhanded/negative about it. It was totally open. it wasnt a bribe, but a stipend. I forget how it was passed off. Some sort of training fee. it was a long time ago (when was it given to Delhi?). Ill try to find something, hope it wasnt an offline article.Lihaas (talk) 09:56, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Eureka! I found it. thanks for making me go out and find it, i was looking for that sourceLihaas (talk) 10:37, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Chris Solinsky edits
Hey, thanks for the advice. Usually before I do a long edit, I copy the whole page just incase someone does an edit so I don't have an edit conflict. I tried to include your edits but errors were made. I'm sorry if it caused you any troubles.Philipmj24 (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Block
OK, block in place. I've put this page on my watchlist so I can see if you request an unblock. If I'm not around (check my contributions) put on the bottom of this page. Make a note of the date and time of your message to me (21:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)) so that your request to be blocked can be verified. Good luck with job hunting  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jim. I've made some progress on the job front now, so I'd like to be unblocked. Thanks for helping me out! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  12:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
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Athletics (track and field)
I appreciate your efforts to improve the articles on track and field-related topics. However, I reverted your edit to the Athletics (track and field) page in particular. Creating a new disambig page at this title is contrary to the disambiguation guidelines, because it is a case of "incomplete disambiguation"; that is, an ambiguous title followed by a parenthetical qualifier that results in a title that is still ambiguous. The disambiguation page at Athletics already covers the same territory. Also, please note that dozens of templates and well over 10,000 other articles contain links to "Athletics (track and field)". Changing the target of these links to a disambig page would be highly disruptive to readers. If you really believe that this term is ambiguous, then you should redirect the links to the correct target before changing the redirect. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jeff Williams (athlete)
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Running: requested article
Road relay. Among others there has been a World Championship in road relay, but does the total distance have to be 42 km? The country I live in has several cross country and road relays in the spring (April/May). The largest event had 34,300 contestants in 1993 (and a prestigious Elite Category) and is about 18 km. Geschichte (talk) 10:27, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:WP Music listed at Redirects for discussion
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Great Run Series
I see that you created Template:Great Run Series. I cannot find Great Scottish Run in the template. Can you kindly add it to template?—  Hamza  <sup style="color:#91877C;">[ talk ]  07:37, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, do you run for exercise/pleasure? —  Hamza  <sup style="color:#91877C;">[ talk ]  07:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * :) I am a little "extra-pounds" kind of guy. I used to run till 2007. Approximately, 3 km  everyday. Started running in last month again. Just building upon my stamina now. Logging little less than 2 km, four days a week. I know this is peanuts. Although, i have stamina for more but if i increase my run-distance to my stamina just now, i'll get the sprained calf. So, working on it now. Aiming for the Edinburgh Marathon next June. Do marathons have any kind of criterion to participate?—  Hamza   <sup style="color:#91877C;">[ talk ]  04:21, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep ! that is the plan.—  Hamza  <sup style="color:#91877C;">[ talk ]  10:09, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Re:undoing of revision on Commonwealth Games
Hi SFB - though I agree with your undoing of the revision which removed the UK from the list of multiple-hosting nations, I think i can see the editor who removed that's point. If the CG regard the four countries within the UK as separate nations (which they do if the teams are anything to go by), are we right to regard games held in Cardiff, Edinburgh and Manchester as having been held in the same country? It's a quibbling point of definition, but perhaps it's one which needs discussion somewhere? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha? 

Medal table
Hey, ok good to know for the future... ;-) Kante4 (talk) 08:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Long-distance
Hi, I notice you've changed Long-distance to point to a dab instead of Long-distance track event. Per WP:FIXDABLINKS, could you help clean up the links that now point to a disambig? Thanks, -- Ja Ga  talk 15:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks much for all the fixin'! -- Ja Ga  talk 10:59, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries! All done now. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) <sup style="color:#0B7C08;">Join WikiProject Athletics!  01:44, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Athletics at the 10th National Games of the People's Republic of China
Hello, your nomination of Athletics at the 10th National Games of the People's Republic of China at DYK was reviewed and comments provided. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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