User talk:Silver00

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you use Wikipedia for advertising, you will be blocked from editing. Marasmusine (talk) 14:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. First and foremost, please read our core WP:Neutral point of view policy. If you can tell me that you are in no way affiliated with Sarwari, then perhaps we can proceed from there. Thanks, Marasmusine (talk) 14:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I am not affiliated with Zohra Sarwari, I purchased her book and attended her speeches and found her worth noticing, she is a very impressive speaker and muslim life coaches are rare to find thats why I wanted more and more people to get benefited.Please put it up. Thanks.
 * Thanks for replying. Okay, the next thing to do is make clear what the "indication of importance" will be, to avoid the article being speedily deleted. I notice that you wrote that Infocus newspaper wrote an article about her, and that she had made some television appearances. Can you provide more details? I'm aiming to get enough information to fill out the fields in Template:cite newspaper, for example (date, author, publisher, etc.) After that, we need to make sure the article content follows our WP:Verifiability policy (all content must be attributable to reliable, independent sources - the newspaper article might be useful there.) Thanks, Marasmusine (talk) 16:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm writing a stub article now, using the newspaper article as reference. I can't use the youtube video links in the article, the first due to copyright reasons, the second because it was removed from youtube. Should be done in about ten minutes. Marasmusine (talk) 17:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've started Zohra Sarwari as neutrally as possible. When you add information to it, please attribute it to a reliable source (per WP:V policy), preferably using a citation template like the one I used in the stub (see WP:CITE). I don't think that it will be speedily deleted now, but I can't guarentee that it won't be deleted in future through peer discussion if the subject doesn't meet the notability guidelines for biographies. That might be quite a bit to take in, so don't hesitate to contact me if you need any further help. Marasmusine (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Silver, as you can see, the article was still deleted :/ If you want to take your time creating this article, I suggest writing it in your "user space" (say at User:Silver00/Zohra Sarwari) - it won't be deleted from there, and it can be put into the main article space when you are happy it is finished. If you would like to try this, let me know and I will restore the stub I made.

In answer to your other query, I couldn't see an article on Mark Victor Hanson. The Muhammad Al-Shareef article has not been deleted because no-one has asked for it to be deleted. It does, however, indicate some importance and is neutrally written, so is unlikely to be speedily deleted. I have tagged it for maintainance. Marasmusine (talk) 00:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Requested biography
Hi. I had noticed you made a request yesterday for Zohra Sarwari at Requested articles/Biographies. You entered your request under "Fiction authors", which is a mistake since her only book is non-fiction. I moved her listing to "Non-fiction Authors." I have again deleted the entry you made to "fiction authors." I hope this is clear. Regards. — Cactus Writer |   needles  07:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The purpose of Requested articles/Biographies is for anyone interested in a particular profession, nationality, etc. to find names of people that might need a bio. It serves as a starting point for interested editors. I don't actually write all the bios, I only maintain the list. It is just one of my side projects. Personally, the bios that I write deal mostly with Denmark. — Cactus Writer |   needles  18:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Silver; Reading the Mark Victor Hansen article, it clearly makes an indication of importance; his book series has been very successful and has been commented on by Time magazine and The New Yorker.
 * I've moved the stub to User:Silver00/Zohra Sarwari where you can work on it until it is ready.
 * WP:CITE is the tutorial on citations, and we also have Manual of Style (biographies) and Notability (people) which will give you a good idea of what is to be expected in a biography.
 * I will help you in any way I can. If you want to go ahead and add whatever material and links you have, I'll edit/tidy as appropriate. Try to use as many independent sources as possible; for example I looked on Google News, which only gave me but this is apparently a press release which isn't very useful. Marasmusine (talk) 18:06, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, any article on a person is going to be called a "biography":> So don't worry about that. Ah, yes, you can wikilink words to link to other Wikipedia articles, but this is different to citing your sources. Sources can include magazine/newspaper articles, television shows (like the one you showed me on youtube - can we find out what TV network that was on?), but not Wikipedia itself. If you know of any other places that she has receieved press coverage then give me the details and I'll write out the citation template for you. Another article like the InFocus interview would be great; self-published work is less useful. Have a quick read through the notability guide above to see that kind of things that are needed. I'm looking through some Google results now, perhaps there's something there. Marasmusine (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, Silver. I see you are already getting some excellent advice from Marasmusine. I wanted to mention that, while you work on your article, you might also like to consider joining one of the Wikiprojects. These are areas where groups of editors who are interested in a particular topic collaborate in writing and editing articles. If you have a particular subject which interests you, send me a note and perhaps I can help direct you towards a particular Wikiproject. They are always looking for interested editors. In the meantime, here are a few links you might find helpful:

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 * Since her biography continues to be quickly deleted by administrators, it is most probable that Zohra Sarwari is not notable enough yet to have an article in Wikipedia. This should not be taken as a slight against her or her work, it simply means that there are not enough independent sources who are talking about her. (Independent sources would be national newspapers, large magazines, books or scholarly journals) This is simply the requirement of an encyclopedia. And that vast majority of the world falls into this category.
 * However, I expect there are other biographies or topics in which you have an interest that you can help to create or edit. There is a lot going on here -- and it can seem complicated, at first -- but no one expects anyone to know it all from the start. Don't worry, you will get the hang of it. Perhaps start by reading articles and making corrections where you find them. You can also find existing article stubs (tiny articles that have only been begun and need expansion) and help to expand them. Tell me, which topics, people, professions, etc. are you interested in or have studied or are studying? I can probably point you toward a group of articles which are in need of help. — Cactus Writer |   needles  20:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay. With homeopathy as one of your main interests, I would suggest you look at WikiProject Alternative medicine. Go to the Core Project Articles section to find links to the project's most important articles. Also, in the quality assessment table there, click on any of the color-coded links to see lists of articles, for example Category:Stub-Class Alternative medicine articles or Category:Start-Class Alternative medicine articles. Any of the articles in these lists could use some attention from an editor and are a great place to start editing. Let me know if this helps. — Cactus Writer |   needles  23:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Silver, I've set the Zohra Sarwari article afloat, good work on finding those citations. In my opinion, this is enough to avoid a speedy deletion as it is both neutrally written and indicates some importance. Marasmusine (talk) 22:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for all your help and support Marasmusine.--Silver00 (talk) 14:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)