User talk:Silvrous

Hi Silvrous,

Welcome to Wikipedia!!

Thanks for protecting The Picture of Dorian Gray against vandalism here, maintenance is a never ending job on Wikipedia.

If you're interested in working on other literature articles you could join WikiProject Literature, otherwise here's some advice for beginners. If you have any questions you can just pop a note on my talk page.

Thanks again and I hope you enjoy editing as much as I do. Best wishes, --Ktlynch (talk) 11:53, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

You still haven't answered my question so tell me is in a sane world 5.277.068 > 7,403,836 true or not ??I'm showing you a fact im just wondering if you have intelligence to see it.Veriteo (talk) 08:45, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

LOL Im asking you just a question answer it so that you might get those FACTS you were looking for.Veriteo (talk) 12:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

You Have Been Nominated to be an Administrator
Go to Your page now to start!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keelan717 (talk • contribs) 15:09, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * If this nomination and transclusion was made without your consent, and you  do  not  want  it,  please let  me know as soon  as possible and consider leaving  a comment  on  your RfA  that you  withdraw it so  that it can be closed. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:54, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Your RfA
Don't worry; I closed it. A boat  that can float!   (watch me float!)  16:57, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Never mind; I got an edit conflict. A boat  that can float!   (watch me float!)  16:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * It's been deleted and the user indefinitely blocked. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  18:25, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep, I beat him to the close and the delete nomination. Nothing else to worry about here. Mdann52 (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Stub tags
Please note that stub should go at the end of an article, after everything except inter-language links, not at the top as you did in Andrei Peteleu. See WP:ORDER. Thanks. Pam D  16:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Dana Shires
Hi Silvrous. Can you explain to me in a little greater detail how the citations of sources on the Dana Shires article could be improved? (I was careful to provide a source for each "chunk" of information I included in the article.) Thanks.--Vistawhite (talk) 04:21, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Canada Iran
That first line sounds silly without what I added. I'm going to put it back for now if that's ok. Don't see how it wasn't neutral by all means.--71.67.123.12 (talk) 08:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No, the structure "to state the obvious" is condescending and does not adhere to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of view (WP:NPOV) policy. Silvrous  '' Talk  08:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Why sources
Why did Wikipedia dosent accept unsourced material 99.229.41.79 (talk) 18:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia should only contain sourced material, in order to be a trustworthy source of information. Please see WP:V for a detailed explanation. Silvrous  '' Talk  18:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

CIR
much better. Thanks. --76.106.149.108 (talk) 20:13, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Salai
I am not at all sure why you decided to delete a wad of information that had been added to that article.

NOTE: the added information contained some solid facts.

I notice that you have been nominated as an administrator. I would oppose that nomination on the following grounds.
 * You twice deleted a lengthy, newly added section, by a newbie, presumably without reading it to see what value it added.
 * You labelled an addition that contained factual material, and had been placed into the article in the correct sections, as vandalism!
 * The addition had several problems. If you are a sufficiently experienced editor to be an admin, then you must have enough experience to identify and correctly label the individual problems.
 * So what were the problems?
 * unreferenced. Then you should put in a tag.
 * some poor expression of a type which indicates clearly that English is not the person's first language. As an English Wikipedia admin, you ought to be able to correct a few errors of expression.
 * Speculation/POV/Original research e.g. "This might have been because....."  Any statement that uses words like that needs a OR or POV warning (depending on the precise nature of the speculation).


 * This is the manner in which a good administrator would approach a section of added material by an inexperienced editor. An administrator's job is to facilitate editting.

Amandajm (talk) 02:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not have a lot of experience on anti-vandalism, and indeed made a mistake in this case. I am thankful that you saw the mistake and corrected everything. Before writing such a lengthy note, however, I would always check whether my thesis is actually correct. Your thesis, my being nominated for administrator, is actually quite incorrect, the "nomination" was done by a vandal some time ago. But thank you for the information. I will keep in mind what you said from now on. Silvrous  '' Talk  06:28, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. I was unaware that vandals were now going around nominating people for things! Amandajm (talk) 07:01, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the CVUA
Hello I am Calu2000 (talk) 07:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)}} welcome to the counter vandalism unit academy. First of all I would like you to read (in full) Vandalism and Cleaning up vandalism and present me any questions you have. Please contact me on my talk page with any queries you may have Calu2000 (talk) 07:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC).

Motion Planning
Thank you Silvrous for bringing to attention lack of edit reason on the paper reference removal, that was my mistake. I am a writer of the paper that is about to be submitted to ICRA, this is my work that needs to be removed from wikipedia until after the submission. Lucidation (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

By the way, thanks for stepping in on this issue from before, it looks like I was essentially being trolled by the user Andy Dingley as he has others. I am looking forward to hopefully adding contributions on intelligent data structures & motion planning in the future. Lucidation (talk) 07:00, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

CVUA
Hello! Thank you for your interest in CVUA. I have been selected as your replacement instructor. I am happy to get started with you. I will email you my contact information so that we can communicate effectively. I am willing to use Instant Messaging, IRC, or talk pages, or whatever method you may prefer to keep in touch. I would first be interested to know what areas of instruction you would be most interested in. Another editor has raised the question that since you already appear to be experienced and effectively reverting vandalism, we might not have much left to teach you. So if you want to share what you already know and what you would like to get out of a course here, that would be great. See you soon. Elizium23 (talk) 02:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for taking me on! I do have some experience with Twinkle, I usually patrol the IP user recent changes. I've had problems identifying non-obvious vandalism. I'd like to start using STiki and perhaps Huggle to revert more easily, and also patrol registered users, which I haven't really tried. Silvrous  '' Talk  09:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I have sent you email from my account, so you should have in hand my IM and other contact info. How do you prefer to communicate? I have found in the past that IM works best for intensive sessions. Elizium23 (talk) 05:14, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm all for IM, but I don't know if it would be feasible(I'm on GMT +2), so we might have to stick to talk page most of the time. I'll add you on Skype. Silvrous  '' Talk  18:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll look for you on Skype. And you don't need to use Talkback for me, I have your talk page watchlisted and in WatchListBot, I am alerted as soon as the message goes in. Let's get down to brass tacks. I can help you with STiki, as I have used it and I still have the capability to use it on my computer. I have not used Huggle, and it is not supported natively by my operating system (Linux). If you are really interested in finding out about it, I could try and install it under the Wine environment, but truthfully, you may just be better off asking another instructor about it. Our chosen software is listed in the status page of CVUA. I can also tell you that I found it extremely useful to patrol "new editors' contributions", especially for conflict of interest issues. You can easily find vandalism here; the trick is not to conflict too much with all the other Recent Changes patrollers, who will have already seen the edits... but out of registered users, it is the more fruitful way to identify unconstructive edits. Now, as for identifying non-obvious vandalism, I can tell you that the most common form of non-obvious vandalism is the factual error. I help myself in this category by maintaining a large watchlist of articles within my chosen topics of interest, of which I am fairly knowledgeable. It is easier to spot the factual error if you know about your topic! Recent changes patrol won't be too much help here. Sometimes I find myself checking references and using Google Search and other resources to identify a factual error, and I do find that I learn more about the topic as I research it. Sometimes I am even able to add references where there was none before, or start a discussion about the inclusion of a fact. This is all recommended stuff if you want to be a constructive member of the Wikipedia community, but it is peripheral to my objective as a CVUA instructor. I can tell you that all vandalism has certain hallmarks that you can use to "score" in your head whether an edit looks suspicious. A red-linked username; no edit summary given; one fact turned into a contradiction; date changed in one place and not another. Not an exhaustive list, but some of the more common red flags I encounter on a daily basis. Another behavior that is non-obvious is copyright violation. It doesn't just happen to new articles. The number one thing to watch for is large blocks of text added in a single edit. Especially if it is un-wikified. Especially if the language sounds more promotional, or un-WP-like. Simply paste some of the text into Google Search and find an exact match. This requires immediate removal and a warning to the user. Copyright violations are not vandalism, but they do crop up often for me, so it bears mentioning. Other types of vandalism can occur on talk pages, for example, one user refactoring the comments of another. Changes in formatting and fixing links can be OK, but even spelling corrections can be disruptive and somewhat rude to the original writer. In my topics, I often find posts that fall under WP:NOTFORUM and are immediately removed, as they have no suggestion for improving the article. Not vandalism, usually done in good faith. It is less common to see the former behavior, but it can be hard to spot; sometimes users forget to log in and they are fixing their own comment, when it appears that an anonymous IP is changing an established editor's comment... requires a judgement call to tell what happened, sometimes you just revert and don't issue a warning. OK, that is my brain dump for the evening. I noticed you are already making reports to WP:AIV using Twinkle. Do you have any questions about AIV for me? I often report there, and I can tell you that I find it to be one of the more efficient notice boards, without much drama or backlog and administrators are responsive with blocks or page protection as necessary. Speaking of that, I see you have also used WP:RPP once; if you have any questions about that I would also be glad to answer. I most frequently use Twinkle for all these actions, if you are comfortable with it then I am too. OK, see you tomorrow. Elizium23 (talk) 06:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Silvrous i've just added a tiny bit to John Barrowman about another book cuz him and his sister has. Hope that is ok. Smason177 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smason177 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Verifying
There have been an announcement from different world's newspapers that Emeli Sande married in Montenegro, in September this year, and took the last name Radojevic, which is one of her husband's last names. Furthermore, that has been explained by Emeli as well in an interview after her Montenegro concert. 95.155.29.204 (talk) 14:57, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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Lora
Hello, I have deliberately removed the Lora 'History' section from the article you mention. I have explained why on talk page. I hope to be able to make major editing too soon, and for now I am still pondering whether to join wikipedia or not. Thanks 39.54.127.212 (talk) 23:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)Col (Retd) Mumtaz Khan, Pakistan

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Re Woman in Islam Article
This article is full of assertions and lack of objectivity. Any insertions I made in response were perfectly acceptable and were not insertions, but added a level of objectivity previously missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmetfahy (talk • contribs) 13:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I agree the article is in need of a serious cleanup, and many of your changes work towards that. However, edits such as: "However, the tribal nature of Arabia emphasised the complete subjugation of women to men and its was this idea rather than the Quranic statments on equality before God that became the norm in the Islamic world" or "The practical result of Islamic teaching on the status of women has meant for the most part that women are unfairly represented in courts, whether religious or secular."

are original research, with no sources to back them up. In this case, the facts should speak for themselves, any conclusions being drawn might come close to violating WP:NPOV. Silvrous '' Talk  13:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

change of Emelie Norenberg
Hi Silvrous. It took me a while to find where to message you because I´m not that good with high-tech. Please let my age be 27 and my year of birth 1985 and let all the changes made on this wikipdeia of me still be there. Everytime I´ve tried to change it, someone changes it back to wrong things. I don´t know how to give a "reliable" source, but this is me, Emelie Norenberg writing, and I dont want my age to be wrong on wikipedia and nothing else to be wrong about what i do now or what I study or work with. How can I keep these changes and make them permanent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.143.114 (talk) 22:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Achilles
I did not constitute vandalism. I was just putting in a fact. I erased a historical misconception. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.239.155 (talk) 19:34, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I apologize for misidentifying your edit, the sentence "the mad that brought great suffering" was gramatically incorrect and appeared to be nonsensical, which is why I considered it to be vandalism. Silvrous  '' Talk  19:38, 22 February 2013 (UTC) It's all righht. If you think that I did something wrong, you can tell me, but before you tell me, you can edit my contributions.

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czavoianu
Hello. I don't think that dividing the total GDP values by the total population count qualifies as original research (and neither does Wikipedia itself for that matter). I think that if you have two newer pieces of date and simply divide them in order to obtain a better approximation of a more outdated piece of data, somewhat goes in the spirit of Wikipedia itself: by providing people with the most recent, trustworthy and well correlated data. This is why I undid your undo on the GDP per capita of Romania. If you still think that my arguments are wrong, feel free to undo my change again and I promise I will not debate/act on this subject anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Czavoianu (talk • contribs) 11:17, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Mehmet Akif was Albanian. Don't try to screw the history, You will lose visitors and I'll report your site for trespassing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blertarustemi (talk • contribs) 21:19, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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Talkback|WilliamBillyB
This is a reply to a message you left for me when I was under IP 109.90.226.35 because I was unable to log-in in the usual manner.

I had made some minor changes to neutralise the wording of some claims, following Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy. You said you reversed my changes without specifying what and why. Why not talk about it first and then modify?

The entire topic surrounding claims made by Muslims regarding science is dubious and unsubstantiated. Wikipedia should serve as a neutral resource to show what happened and what did not happen. Naming this era the Islamic Golden Age is a total misnomer as the ideology, worldview and religion of Islam had nothing to do with the scientific advancements made and there is no such thing as Islamic science.

The contributions at the time were limited to translations and the furthering of some knowledge. Why not have Wikipedia reflect this? Many Muslims believe that there were ground-breaking discoveries and mind-boggling inventions made at the time. This not the case, so why not let Wikipedia reflect this? Great people did great work and contributed to the advancement of science and the understanding of science. Why not have Wikipedia reflect this?

WilliamBillyB (talk) 20:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but adding "what Muslims like to call" before the accepted terminology for a historical era because you do not agree with it is not neutral, it makes the whole sentence sound derisive and condescending, and contravenes Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy. Moreover, your statements that the name of this era is "a total misnomer" and that "there is no such thing as Islamic science" seem to be contradicted by numerous sources in the articles in question. Wikipedia reflects what is found in sources, there is a no original research policy.  Silvrous  '' Talk  16:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Admin intervention
Hello, I have noticed that there is a kind of a edit war going on at Rocinia, should I take this to Administrators noticeboard? Thanks, Happy_Attack_Dog &#34;The Ultimate Wikipedia Guard Dog&#34; (talk) 15:25, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, it wasn't really an edit war, just an IP vandal that deleted his initial warnings; I see that he's been blocked now, so the situation should be resolved. Silvrous  '' Talk  15:30, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Привет
Почему вы можете исползовать изображение File:Maya the Honey Bee.jpg и мы нет? Как нам бы эта картинка годилась на рувики и не только на эй.--89.190.68.18 (talk) 19:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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