User talk:Simba1409

Welcome
Hey, I'm not sure if you have been editing under an IP address prior to signing up for this account as it seems you are good at using the talk pages to propose changes, but either way welcome.

If you are inclined, there are a couple of projects you might be interested in joining or just having a look at, Wikiproject Football dealing with soccer/football on a world scale as well as Wikiproject Football in Australia for Australian soccer/football subjects.

Let me know if I can help with any questions at all and I hope you stick around as productive editors on Australian football topics are always very welcome and needed! Camw (talk) 07:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Lionel Messi's position
Please join the discussion I have started here. Regards, GiantSnowman 00:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

MESSI
Hi SIMBA, VASCO from Portugal,

Yes, that is what i said to User:Picolotto in his talk page, in my mothertongue which is Portuguese, so don't worry i agree with you!

Main position winger, second position striker, so it should be "Winger / Striker" or "Striker / Winger" in infobox - but not center forward, he can not be classified as that (examples of center forwards are Jan Koller, Julio Salinas, Mário Jardel, Hugo Almeida, etc, etc).

Happy editing, VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 01:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
–Drilnoth (T • C • L) 02:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

3RR
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Woody (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010
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Future of WikiProject Association Football in Australia
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I agree
You were right to remove that paragraph in Sport in Australia regarding soccer in summer, etc. It was unsourced, and contained a lot of speculation. I should have separated that from the earlier reverts. HiLo48 (talk) 08:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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October 2011
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Soccer in Australia. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Calling other editors "no-life idiots" will not further the discussion in any way. IgnorantArmies 11:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of David Donovan for deletion
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October 2021
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, or, would either of you review the lad's second unblock request, concerning the AFD-in-question. It expires on Oct 11, 2021 but he's been waiting three days for a judgement. GoodDay (talk) 13:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * He's only blocked from one page. He's at liberty to discuss the sourcing issues raised on the actual article, and of course he can continue to make entertaining edits on football pages. --Pete (talk) 21:54, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Stop stalking me. As you would say yourself 'stay off my talk page'. Simba1409 (talk) 22:06, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Independent Australia (October 10)
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April 2023
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Monique Ryan. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Two edits is not an edit war. Grow up. It was me who suggested we take it to the talk page. Get off your high horse. Simba1409 (talk) 10:26, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


 * See Edit warring. An edit war is when you deviate from the WP:BRD cycle. Rather than re-reverting you should have taken the edit conflict to the talk page. ––– GMH MELBOURNE   TALK  10:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


 * "Editors who engage in edit warring are liable to be blocked from editing to prevent further disruption to the affected page. While any amount of edit warring may lead to sanctions, there is a bright-line rule called the three-revert rule (3RR), the violation of which will usually be considered edit warring, and often leads to the user engaging in the behavior to be blocked."

I made two edits, get off your high horse, if you were silly enough to edit again I would have taken it to talk. Simba1409 (talk) 10:34, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok, nevertheless, I encourage you to read WP:Consensus, in particular the Consensus-building section and the flow chart. –––  GMH MELBOURNE   TALK  10:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I directed YOU to the talk page. I encourage you to not throw around edit war warnings when the criteria has not been met. Simba1409 (talk) 10:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * But you didn't follow the BRD cycle. There is an ongoing discussion in about the edit here if you would like to participate. ––– GMH MELBOURNE   TALK  10:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


 * But I wasn't engaged in an edit war. I obviously don't use Wikipedia as often as you do, when frequent users start throwing around edit war accusations when the criteria hasn't been met, that certainly doesn't help retain editors. Simba1409 (talk) 10:50, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. The warning was meant to be just that, a warning. Again, please see BRD on how to deal with edit disputes. ––– GMH MELBOURNE   TALK  10:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

New message from GMH Melbourne
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Monique Ryan. ––– GMH MELBOURNE   TALK  13:11, 9 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Simba1409 This is for your information that GMH Melbourne has requested 3'rd opinion at Talk:Monique Ryan as no one else has taken up yet that one I am about to take that for providing third opinion.
 * @GMH Melbourne though I have intimated Simba1409 of your request, as per WP:DR and WP:3O you are supposed to convey concerned users for newly initiated WP:DR discussions. Pl keep that in mind next time. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 08:40, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Simba1409 3rd opinion has been provided at the article talk page. Wish you happy editing. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 18:22, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Deprodding of Rugg v Ryan
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Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Simba1409. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Monique Ryan, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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 * It is you who has the conflict of interest User:GMH_Melbourne
 * I have an interest in politics, I edited your input on the Rugg vs Ryan legal case on Monique Ryan's page to remove irrelevant and biased information. You changed it back and accused me of engaging in an edit war despite my edits not meeting the three-revert rule.
 * Nevertheless, I moved the discussion to the talk page. You requested a third opinion. Another user provided a very detailed analysis in support of my changes. Instead of engaging with the third opinion provider, you put your version back on the page in a brazen bypassing of Wikipedia processes and guidelines.
 * I reverted back and quite fairly (given your actions and desire to only include the accusations against Ryan in your article) suggested there might be political bias at play on your part.
 * You then, not satisfied with the outcome created a new page for the legal case. A poorly written article that was not up to date on the interlocutory ruling and once again only included the accusations against Ryan (and none against Rugg).
 * I put the page up for deletion, suggesting that it does not meet notability guidelines and you (the page creator), removed it. I have now continued on to other deletion processes for your article. Currently, the only other participant in the discussion agrees with me so you retaliate again and come here to accuse me of a conflict of interest.
 * Your projection is strong. Given your obsession with this court case and desire to only include information from the case that could reflect poorly on Ryan and the amount of Liberal Party pages you have created and contributed too, it is quite clear to me that your input on Ryan's page and the creation of a new page for the legal case comes from a place of political bias.
 * You have every right to create and contribute heavily to topics that interest you (such as Liberal Party politicians) and your work on Victorian politics more broadly is a credit to you. Your work certainly exceeds my minor contributions but you do not have the right to use Wikipedia to express your political bias.
 * And you certainly don't have a right to project a conflict of interest onto me, when in this situation it is you who has the conflict. Simba1409 (talk) 03:53, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * After weighing in on the AfD, somehow I'm only now reading this thread as well as the lengthy saga at Talk:Monique Ryan. I have two questions:
 * User:Simba1409 can you answer definitively whether there is any substance at all to the allegation of conflict of interest (in any form, including paid edits)? You skirted the issue above.
 * User:Simba1409 do you object to putting information garnered from the secondary coverage of the trial (subject to WP:RS, WP:BALANCE WP:UNDUE, WP:OR, all the policies.) onto either or both of Monique Ryan's and Sally Rugg's pages? There's a short bit on Sally Rugg but it's not up to date.
 * I am not here to mediate or weigh in on the inter-editor friction evidenced by your interactions. My goals are:
 * - not to get dragged into one part of a dispute while the two of you fight elsewhere about it in other ways; and
 * - to suggest, in a small way, User:GMH_Melbourne's near-term interest in having this dispute documented on Wikipedia could be met on the person-pages. Oblivy (talk) 09:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I do not have a conflict of interest on this matter. Simba1409 (talk) 12:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Oblivy (talk) 12:38, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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