User talk:Simon Adler/Archive 2

Username question
Irondome, I'm curious, does your username reference Israel's missile defense system? I've looked around on your page and it appears you are likely jewish. Are you by any chance a rabbi? Sincerely, GDP (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm just really curious as I'm a Jew myself. --GDP (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, GDP talk. Indeed, there is a lot of it around. (You will have to get used to my sense of humour, which can be odd).

1/ I like things that make whooshing sounds, a highly sophisticated and costly 'weapon' system which was not designed to take human life appeals to me on several levels.

2/ I identify as an East London ethnic Jew. I am a Liberal Jew, which means we get to have more fun.

3/ I drink and smoke and do very un-rebbe stuff, so I am not a Rabbi. I am interested in Kabbalah.

4/ My personal Rabbi is Danny Rich, who was kind enough to officiate at the funeral of my late mother, Estelle Adler, of blessed memory.

5/ I take the piss out of life in general, and WP absurdities, with the notorious Martinevans123 talk. I have sought spiritual advice on this, and have been advised that this is an ethically good thing.

I have been catching up with the subjects you have been editing, and some of the difficulties you and others have encountered by reading all your contributions. This may take a couple of days before I have got what passes for my head, fully around the subject. We must discuss in depth your perception of WP:RS and what media you do use. As I said, I think you are WP:HERE and wish to help. We just need to get you out of your comfort zone. We all do, occasionally. WP:NPOV is the hardest thing to achieve and maintain. It's almost spiritual sometimes. Please read and read and re-read it. It is the oxygen of WP. Without it, the project (I dislike that term) will suffocate. If you wish to assist you, I am quite happy to do that. Kind regards, Simon. Irondome (talk) 01:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * One more practice, which you must try, to stop this place becoming a perceived WP:BATTLEGROUND, and for your own health. Reach out, and form relationships with those who do not share your WP:POV. (do not be ashamed of having a point of view, we all do. This links into the concept of controlling it by the ruthless application of WP:NPOV). I have many colleagues who I disagree with in certain world-views., who is a great mate of mine, , a gentleman, , to name just a few. They are all of superb intellect, and there is joy in engaging with them. No one is your enemy here. One's worst enemy is usually one's self. I hope this helps. Irondome (talk) 03:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Dropping in to thank Irondome for his kind words, and to confirm that I share the same perspective. In fact, I find it a greater joy to engage with those who I disagree with in constructive thoughtful discussions, than those who I agree with. And it is a very regular occurrence on I-P Wikipedia talk pages, so long as we don’t get distracted by the trolls on both sides of a given debate. I don’t know of any other forum in the world, either online or offline, which allows for this regularity of constructive discussion on the topic. Some of this is covered at WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Effmedead! Whaddea away to wake up, shocked at hints I have a bona fides in soiten quarters. 'Bout time I started tracking Irondome and Once's edits, so I can get into some good ol' fights! Cheers pals. Nishidani (talk) 07:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Simon, I found this about fake news. I guess it's probably not you, expecially as he has an American accent, but an interesting coincidence. I'm more on the conservative side of Judaism, although currently not too involved. (Chabad). I also like things that make wooshing sounds too (SpaceX, Blue Origin, etc.) My country has been making a lot of wooshing related progress lately!!! And will in the future with the Space Force!!!!!!! My first edits on Alex Jones, obviously, were a mess, as I didn't realize after making 10 WP edits that WP has a significant forum-like quality. My first WP edit proposal/argument was also a little of a mess. Depends which part you look at. (I guess you saw it). I did however, at least somewhat, get the hang of contributing properly to that page, as you can see here and here. I have realized that WP can take hours out of a day quite easily. WP will be an occasional (but not too sparse) thing for me. Like I said, I don't know how often I'll be active on WP; I'll be starting college. I might be gone for weeks in a row. And I might only log in once every few days, sporadically. BUT, I think I'm liking the idea of you being my mentor. I don't know exactly what it involves, but if you feel it's okay to do it now, go ahead. -GDP  ⇧  08:23, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi -GDP  ⇧ . It is probably a distant relation. A lot of my clan went to the States, the dim side got off in the UK. I respect the Chabad movement, and Liberal UK Jewish leaders have lately been encouraging a return to

more traditional forms of worship, if one wishes to. I am unsure what the Space Force entails, but sounds a bit Project Horizon. In those days the US and the USSR thought big. Very 50's. If you are comfortable with the idea, tell me your first name. It helps to humanize colleagues. I am ploughing through your edits, trying to get up to speed. The areas you are interested in I don't touch to be honest, but that does not mean I cannot begin to edit them. I have a reasonable knowledge of the subjects. Keep open channels with those you have engaged with my friend, and keep an open mind. I will be on and off in the next week, as me and my partner have taken up Wild camping and bushcraft. Using a tarp, trying to be minimalist. Keeps you young lol. Our concessions to comfort are air beds and a half pint bottle of rum to enliven our tea :). So it's Ray Mears vids on youtube ha ha. Seiously, we love nature, and getting outdoors again will be a big plus for us, after too much city living. I will try to keep up on your edits. Happy to mentor you. I have certain ground rules. Will fill you in on those next week if I have time. You seem to be settling in ok, and not acting like a edit warrior. Those types are impossible to mentor, and I have had a couple. Anyway, see you around. Simon. Irondome (talk) 02:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Of course, I don't always have to edit certain subjects if it's easier for you to help me on other types of articles. I hope I'm not too much of an edit warrior. I did recently criticized users for, quite negatively, criticizing me. For instance, I posted a civil request on a user's page referring to a thread I created as "my thread". I was then scolded for calling it "my thread". I don't mean to sound like I'm taking this too heavily. And I actually don't think I rebutted this one. It's just a good example. Some users, of course, have been here fo 10+ years. I guess these users don't realize that I might be a new user, and that I could learn just as easily if they would just nicely point out what I've done wrong. But, in other cases, the complaints are completely unprecedented. I think if I stayed away from controversial political articles, this wouldn't happen. Anyways, ליאם is my name. Although, I think it's best if I maintain some level of confidentiality. Just don't use it too often outside this TP :). -GDP  ⇧  02:46, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * LOL appreciated bro! Si Irondome (talk) 23:08, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

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A cup of tea for you!

 * Hi Yunshui 雲 水 ! Really appreciated. I do like me Tea. However, Ritchie333 (talk), Theroadislong (talk) and Martinevans123 (talk) took my rather feeble twenty word stub and turned it into an article. 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) was kind enough to vet if for a forthcoming DYK spot also. It was a real collective effort, and showed how helpful and generous colleagues can be with their time. It really opened my eyes to the potential of this place, and I have been here since 2012. I just channeled their inner WP:SQUIRREL :) Really appreciated Yunshui, see you around! Simon Irondome (talk) 15:29, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Basically all the best things about Wikipedia in microcosm. Yunshui 雲 水 20:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Precisely Yunshui 雲 水 . You know how WP can feel toxic at times, what with the drama boards, RfA issues, cliques and some difficult regulars. Sometimes it just makes you want to say sod this for a game of soldiers and leave. But then you have an almost textbook example of how it could be, as above. It's a schizophrenic atmosphere sometimes.. I'm sure you get that buzz too sometimes Yunshi. Irondome (talk) 21:29, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * lol! Simon Adler (talk) 15:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome, Simon! :D Kafka Liz (talk) 18:06, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Liz! How you been? I hope you and Ceoil is doing good. Yeah, name change. Time to put away childish things lol! Simon Adler (talk) 18:25, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Doing well! Most of my mischief is elsewhere these days, but I do check in from time to time. Hard not to. Kafka Liz (talk) 09:25, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you this guy? I hope not; would be disappointed to heard you died in 1934. Ceoil (talk) 18:54, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Ohh err! You learn something every day on WP! Yeah well I dropped the 'L' and went to see Colin Clive who was taking Method acting way too seriously, and was sidelining in cryonics, which isn't the name for a band but should be. The rest, as they say is history. Simon Adler (talk) 19:13, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, deceased or not, its always great to see you about. Al lot has happened since 1934; WWII and Britney Spears and what have you. Ceoil (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I confused you for a moment with Samuel Adler (composer), another ibox thing without me ;) - congrats to your first article, after all these years! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:00, 15 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much Gerda my dear :) Well I am very slow, but maybe I can start to do more. And I had a lot of help too! Simon Adler (talk) 19:13, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Really appreciate that GAB. To be honest i'm torn on it. Simon Adler (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I understand your ambivalence, but am happy to continue the conversation on- or off-wiki. GABgab 20:07, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Signing off until nightfall tomorrow. Have fun. Peace. Simon Adler (talk) 17:05, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

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ANI close
I'm asking you to revert your non-admin close. Nothing was "learned" as the editor in question refused to even acknowledge there is something wrong in that kind of behauvior. I believe the close is inappropriate especially in the light of Snow Rise's comment, but I'm not going to revert it myself. Do you think ANI is incapable of reaching a consensus in incivility issues? --Pudeo (talk) 09:51, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have unclosed. An unresolved thread about incivility should only be closed by an administrator. Softlavender (talk) 12:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you. And if someone considers my behauvior in bringing this up as disruptive, they are free to propose a boomerang, although I will disagree with that. --Pudeo (talk) 12:24, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, since I was the person opposing your sub-thread in the first place, and yet I've re-opened it, I think no one will object to your posts here. :) Softlavender (talk) 12:30, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , appreciate you dealing with this while I was off-line. ,yes it would appear that ANI is demonstrably incapable of dealing with 'civility' issues, as was demonstrated in that basically unproductive thread. The community has wildly differing perceptions of 'civility'. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  has been under increasing stress lately, that is my take on this situation. If the thread allowed some venting, then it served it's purpose, and it has hopefully flagged up to MJ that he needs a short break from some of the toxic political areas on WP. Thats my 2p. Simon Adler (talk) 20:41, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I actually backed out of American Politics a while back. There's a note about it at the top of my talk page, because I used to get asked to weigh in on political discussions all the time, and I needed people to know I wasn't going to do that anymore.
 * My topics of interest these days are conspiracy theories, fringe groups and pseudoscience, plus a few random articles here and there. The problem is that a certain type of politics tends to overlaps with the first two subjects and for the past few months, there's been a bit of a crackdown in enforcement in American Politics, so it's harder for editors with alt-right sympathies to go after liberal editors in those topics. Hence, there's been some spillover. But my preferred topics are no strangers to admin eyes, so it won't be long before there's a crackdown there too, which will ease things up on the few of us who edit there. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  02:03, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Remember my temporary crack-up regarding the totality of politics on User:Drmies page a few months back? You helped me there with some kind words bro. I am so steering clear of stressful topics at the moment, although I sympathised with your position on that timesink of a thread. Things seemed to have got weird there after I tried to close it. Still playing catch-up on the sequence of events there after I crashed. Anyway, see you around MJ. Simon Adler (talk) 04:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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No Marx brothers film...
Will ever compete with Monty Python or Mel Brooks for drunken Hilarity. Just thought I'd let you know. ;) ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  02:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * High Anxiety and Silent Movie. Oh yeah :) Simon Adler (talk) 03:04, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I was thinking more Blazing Saddles and History of the World, Part I, but those are damn good, too. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  03:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Super dooper! [] Simon Adler (talk) 03:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't care what they have to say, It makes no difference anyway; Whatever it is, I'm against it! - BilCat (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Ping
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Rervert question
I changed the word "pursuing" because to me it seemed to imply following or pestering, perhaps based in anti-Semitism. Maybe "pursuing conversion of" would be a better replacement?
 * That may well be. Can you please give me the diff or the article name? My memory is not what it was. Just so we can clarify. Thank you for discussing. Simon Adler (talk) 03:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jews&type=revision&diff=866860634&oldid=866171850&diffmode=source Mjsteiner (talk) 03:39, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mjsteiner. On re-reading the section in it's fullest context, I find 'reaching out' to be preferable, in that I believe it is done sincerely, by the lights of those who are attempting to persuade. Therefore I have reverted myself. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Regards, Simon Adler (talk) 03:53, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Kursk
I reverted you. Please, read the discussion at WP:RSN for further details.--Paul Siebert (talk) 04:03, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Paul, I am seeing no consensus in the discussion you began at the R/S board. Regarding Primary Sources WP states;

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 * The discussion seemed to agree on one point, that it was a primary source. From the above, this does not rule it out for usage. We must now explore whether existing secondary sources use this source. If they do, they can be used. I would urge a discussion based on these points on the Kursk T/P. Regards, Simon Adler (talk) 04:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Aha, now I see "54,182 men lost during Zitadelle" include KIA, MIA, WIA and POW, right? In that case, I see no apparent contradiction with 52000 KIA+MIA during the whole battle. One problem is resolved. The only problem remains with the source. It is a table from a dead web site. This table provides some rough figures that require some creative interpretation. The procedure according to the figure of 52000 was obtained is not obvious to me. It definitely require some efforts and expertise, so it is an original research. If this figure was reported somewhere, it will be not a problem to find a good secondary source that says the same.
 * P.S. If that table contained a single figure of losses sustained by the armies involved in the Battle of Kursk, there would be no problem to use this source (although it would be better to make a reference to the Bundesarchiv document, not to the dead blog). However, as you see, to obtain this figure, one has to pick several numbers from several cells, make some assumptions, etc, in other words, to do what professional historians are doing. That is definitely an original research. --Paul Siebert (talk) 04:33, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed Paul. I think a discussion on the talk page exploring where reliable sources have got these figures from wouls be fruitful. Over 20 years of studying the engagements the figures for nazi losses have been remarkably consistent, certainly after Soviet historiography was deprecated post 1989. I think this would be an interesting group exploration. Pinging as an obviously interested colleague in this. Regards Simon Adler (talk) 04:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

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re: Dyk issues
I'll respond here for ease of conversation, through I have no objection if you copy my comment to the other discussion and reply there. I appreciate your detailed explanation of your reasons, to which I'll reply: 1) as far as I am aware, the views in your first bullet point are your own and do not represent a consensus for what makes a DYK. In particular, I do not believe there is any consensus for DYKs being limited to non-controversial topics. As I noted elsewhere, this is a dangerous turn away from WP:NOTCENSORED. Now, this is my personal POV, but I consider censorship to be more dangerous to society that taking offence, and censorship to avoid offence is IMHO no more dangerous than censorship through copyright (perhaps an article I should write). 2) Another editor I think raised the recent Pittsburgh massacre. All unfortunate, but coincidences, and English Wikipedia is global. If we try to take into account everyone who may be offended because some past or present coincidence, we would not publish anything (should we not publish any DYKs related to males on International Women's Day? Etc. It's a slippery slope once we start making any such gestures, also problematic from the neutrality standpoing - as in, trying not to offend group A may offend group B). Now, I have no problems delaying a DYK for a few days or even a week or two, because I don't particularly care which day it is displayed, but in principle, again, I fear this opens a lot of window to abuse (censorship) of Wikipedia. (I also just noticed there's no article on Category:Criticism of political correctness... 3) Re: Polish-Jewish issues. Errr. I am not aware this particular proverb has been part of any media controversy related to those issues, so it's a good example of how we can censor a ton of content (any topic related to Polish Jewish history) because of some mildly related general controversy. Not too mention this is all inconsistent, this years I've DYKed articles on Polish-Jewish topics such as, Eliezer Gruenbaum, The Black Book of Polish Jewry and Secret City (book). Neither of them have raised any concerns, and TBH I think that the case of Gruenbaum is much more controversial than the current proverb (it has been discussed in media quite extensively, unlike the said proverb which nobody but one academic cares about). Or consider Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of This Government in the Murder of the Jews, how come nobody raised issues that this article is not very favorable of the US government? Or Embassy of Japan in Seoul, surely some Japanese or Korean people could be offended by the that topic (since the embassy is mainly notable for some anti-Japanese/Korean clashes it has been a site of). My recent DYK on Lü Ban (director) is surely offensive to the Chinese government (which already blocks Wikipedia, but if we make a good showing of not DYKing, and preferably deleting such articles, maybe Wikipedia will be less controversial to the Chinese Communist Partyand will get unblocked, hmmm?). Singling out this one DYK is problematic on so many levels I can't believe this discussion is still ongoing. But to finish on a positive note, it certainly resulted in the article being significantly improved, and it is certainly even a better candidate for a DYK than it was a while back. Any suggestions for a neutral hook are appreciated, and I invite you to join discussions on article's talk (through everything has been pretty stable for the last few days, I think). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your measured and detailed response, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here, I shall check through some of the article examples you have given, although I do not think this is fundamentally a question of censorship, rather the maturity of an article, whether it's hook matches it's development and sourcing, and whether the community has had a chance to review a new article. Not all new articles are DYK candidates. Some have more illustrious futures, such as GA, or even FA. There seems to be a race to get new articles DYK attention. I'm not sure about that to be honest. Better an older article crafted to FA status. However, I do want to get more involved in DYK disussions and procedures, so this is perhaps opportune. Any advice or guidance would be welcomed.Regards, Simon Adler (talk) 07:37, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Let me answer this as someone who has written literally 1000+ DYKs over 10+ year period (which doesn't mean I know all there is about DYKs, but I speak with a bit of experience). In theory, all new articles are eligible for DYKs if the meet DYK criteria, in reality, on a faction are DYKed because 99% of article creators don't know/care about DYKs, and if they did, we would have a backlog from here to the Moon. Please take a look at Did_you_know. Note points 3 and 4. There is nothing about a topic being controversial - it is just that the article has to be neutral. If there are neutrality concerns, a DYK nom can be put on hold, for weeks if needed, until disputes are resolved, at which time it can go through. I have also did a cursory review of WT:DYK, and there's no consensus for controversial topics to be excluded - in fact, on the contrary, DYK rules prescribe that the hook should be interesting (and we know that controversy is interesting). In addition to my DYKs I mentioned, please take a look at Did_you_know/Statistics, and consider how many of those are controversial (".... that Pope Pius XII did not condemn the roundup and deportation of more than a thousand Jews "under his very windows" 75 years ago today?" or "... that the Padule di Fucecchio massacre, in which at least 174 Italian civilians were murdered, has been described as "one of the worst Nazi atrocities in Italy"?"). Being a controversial topic is not a problem for a DYK. If the article is neutral, and the hook is referenced and interesting, it's enough. Per WP:IAR, we can of course bend the rules when needed in various ways, but in my 1000+ DYKs I've never had the 'too controversial' issue raised, and as I said above, I consider this line of argument very dangerous for Wikipedia (as I fear the censorship by political correctness would be a death knell for this project). On a final note, I invite you to reread the article on Jewish Paradise, and let us know on the talk if there is any way we can make it more neutral. Cheers, --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:26, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
Hello ,
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Tired of it all?
Maybe you just need a little 20-year nap? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:42, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Or a week? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 2 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Well I just voted for the new arsecom. You can too. Just vote oppose for all of them. I did and it gave me a risus sardonicus for about 20 secs. Big fun. They are all a bunch of orkney settlements. Simon Adler (talk) 17:48, 2 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the trenchant political analysis, there. It is exciting, isn't it. Yes, they gave me a risus sardonicus, but I took it back to the store and got it exchanged for something more useful. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * LoL these weird diseases aside, isn't voting oppose for all almost akin to not voting ?-- D Big X ray ᗙ  19:10, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I put on my special Hi-Viz yellow vest while I did it, so no, User:DBigXray it was a highly significant political moment. Simon Adler (talk) 19:18, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I see, you just had your NOTA moment. I do love my Hi Viz yellows, but how is it relevant here, any cultural clues that I am missing ? -- D Big X ray ᗙ  19:35, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Voting neutral is not voting. If everybody voted all oppose, no new member would be elected. - I know three candidates for whom I'd vote. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * We should stop encouraging hierarchies on here Gerda. I'm not voting in any RfA's anymore either. That will show them innit? Simon Adler (talk) 19:32, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think that you looked ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Gerda, yes, theoretically that (all voting oppose, and none elected) is possible but practically it is highly unlikely. At least I for one, crapped on those plans by voting support. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  19:33, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I also supported, see? - I just answered the question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Some of us are quite happy to wait the five years until 23.59 on Sunday 3rd December. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:58, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

We all need an occasional wiki-break sometimes, or just a slow-down. Just know that we're all here for you, and thinking of you. - BilCat (talk) 22:02, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Did someone say Hi Viz? Throw a smoke-bomb for me. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:25, 2 December 2018 (UTC)


 * .... You know, Simon….. voting at Arbcom is very much like making love to a beautiful woman! First you get warmed up with a few suggestive questions. Then there’s the opportunity for reliving past intimate encounters and maybe for a bit of lively back and forth... before you finally plant your big fat tick in the box (... or just a small cross, of course). Swiss Marti 123 (talk) 09:42, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

North American F-86 Sabre
I note you are not moving this issue to the talk page. 92.39.207.50 (talk) 16:23, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I have asked you to join me there in my edit summary. Your reversion barely gave me enough time to write this. Slow down please. Simon Adler (talk) 16:25, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018
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It's closing in on us

 * Ha ha thanks <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme ✍🏻📧! I like it, and I may have to 'borrow' it because I got no wit or imagination lol Simon Adler (talk) 21:03, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
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The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
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Fucked up ping
When you fuck up a ping, it cannot be unfucked by editing. You gotta start fresh and at a new place(line), if you really want the fucks to be given. see WP:PING-- D Big X ray ᗙ  15:07, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Frankly I can't be arsed DbX. The great leader has bigger pings to fry. He is probably advising a world leader even as we type. Simon Adler (talk) 15:19, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure, but do remember this, so that your genuine SOS to someone doesn't get fucked up. Just add a new line with a ping and remember to add your signature after the comment as well. pings don't get sent if you miss to add your signature in the same comment.-- D Big X ray ᗙ  23:21, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 *  D Big X ray ᗙ  I appreciate that bro, it's something I didn't know about. I started a thread on the Dear Leader's T/P b.t.w..chances of getting a response are bugger all. LMAO! See you later DbX Simon Adler (talk) 23:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , if not he then someone else may respond and do the needful if something really needs to be done. take care. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  23:36, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
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Impressions
I hope you don't get the wrong impression and think I'm anal about the smallest details, like when I went back and corrected that image  caption. (short pause) Ok, well I am. 😉 <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme ✍🏻📧 03:43, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme ✍🏻📧 Me too ! We have much in common..😉 Simon Adler (talk) 03:57, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry fucking christmass

 * yeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! The scarf of power (patent pending) shielded you from Fred's kosmic krap beam! Hurrahh! Simon Adler (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Saturnalia

 * That's very thoughtful of you Ealdgyth! Have a happy and stress-free time.      Simon Adler (talk) 17:12, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Xmas

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Happy New Year, Simon Adler!
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Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.


 * Good to know that you are still enjoying your New year bash. cheers. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  18:40, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019
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2019
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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019

begin it with music and memories

Not too late, I hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy
Thunder Road Kafka Liz (talk) 10:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Ignore the hair; it’s a product of the times. *This* is the best version of this song. Kafka Liz (talk) 10:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I’ve actually driven this route, though it’s a bit different these days. Kafka Liz (talk) 10:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Help a Stanford student project?
Hi Simon Adler - I'm a Stanford student working on a project on how to improve Wikipedia edit abuse filtering. Would you be willing to talk for 20-30 minutes about your experience working with Wikipedia over the years? Anything you can share would be incredibly helpful! You can contact me at dlevine2@stanford.edu. Thank you and apologies if I misused your page in any way! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:681:4D00:8BA0:D871:9D55:1510:36F (talk) 23:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Jack Nissenthall


Hello, Simon Adler. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, Draft:Jack Nissenthall.

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019
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I'm not dead. To my friends/pagewatchers
I am very ashamed that I did not return the kind messages over the holiday period and the many emails I have received. I ran away. Serious depression and a realisation that I am not a useful contributor has kept me away. I have not retired and my absence was no political/philosophical/WP comment. Just felt the walls closing in. My heartfelt apologies. Si. Simon Adler (talk) 03:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Viva la Vida. Who says that you aren't a useful contributor. These impressive numbers don't lie. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  03:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting us know you're still around. Come back when you able, we miss your presence when you're not on. - BilCat (talk) 04:10, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Tiny ping
Sent you a small email Kafka Liz (talk) 02:05, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLV, March 2019
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NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


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 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
 * Reliable Sources for NPP

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 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


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The Signpost: 31 May 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


Hello ,

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important. Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR. The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever. NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so  you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations. Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for  the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging. Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway. School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * QUALITY of REVIEWING
 * Backlog
 * Move to draft
 * Notifying users
 * PERM
 * Other news

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.

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The June 2019 Signpost is out!
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Books & Bytes Issue 34, May – June 2019
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 * Partnerships
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The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019
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The Signpost: 31 July 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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Your draft article, Draft:Jack Nissenthall


Hello, Simon Adler. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Jack Nissenthall".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! HawkAussie (talk) 23:00, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Backlog Banzai
In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 August 2019
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
 * Backlog

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
 * Coordinator

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for  making  the occasional  mistake while  others can learn from  their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
 * This month's refresher course

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
 * Deletion tags

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
 * Paid editing


 * Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
 * Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent  enhancements to  the New Pages Feed and  features in the Curation  tool, and there are still more to  come. Due to the wealth  of information  now displayed by  ORES, reviewers are strongly  encouraged to  use the system now rather than Twinkle; it  will  also  correctly  populate the logs.
 * Not English
 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
 * Tools

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.

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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark
G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019
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 * Wikimania
 * We're building something great, but..
 * Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
 * A Wikibrarian's story
 * Bytes in brief

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