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GA Review of Portugal in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008
Hi Sims. I've started a review of Portugal in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 to see if it matches the GA criteria. My comments and suggestions will be placed here: Talk:Portugal in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008/GA1. You can ask me any questions you like; I'll help out where I can or point you in the right direction if I can't. Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 18:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have placed the article on hold for 7 days to allow you and the Eurovison Project time to expand and make improvements. Get in touch if you have any queries. Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 15:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 GAR
Hi Sims, I've opened a reassessment on Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 as I feel there should be greater encyclopedic information (broad coverage) within the article. I don't think it would take much work to bring it up to scratch as all the information is already out there, some of it in place on Wikipedia. But it would be worth people doing the work as the article is used as an example of a "FOO in the Eurovision Song Contest YEAR" Good Article, and it would be worth giving people something reasonably comprehensive and worthwhile to work toward.  SilkTork  *YES! 13:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

A note from the GACC

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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - January 2009
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San Marino '08
The review has started and the page needs a background section. I'm gonna take look and see if there are any small fixes I can do. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 17:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
I see you have been doing lots of great referencing for a variety of Eurovision articles, which is very tedious at times, I think this special barnstar suits you well...

Lithuania 09
Sahsa Son announced at show "Dainu Daina" (Lithuanian national final) that hes song at ESC will be in English. Also it was confirmed at biggest Lithuanian news portals delfi.lt and alfa.lt. So stopped changing info about LT song in ESC 09 article. --Bearas (talk) 13:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Cyrillic
Cyrillic and native spellings should not be included in the ESC table. The national script has nothing to do with Eurovision, since they are not written in their native scripts for Eurovision. Greekboy (talk) 19:58, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - February 2009
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CSD nomination of of File:Alexander Rybak - Fairytale.jpg
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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - May 2009
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GA re-assessment
Switzerland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.

Tables Eurovision voting
Hey, I noticed that there is a mistake in some tables you posted/edited in the different Eurovision topics. For example, in the topic: "Netherlands in the Eurovision". Your change to the table "Netherlands has received the the most points from..." resulted in the following: 1. Israel, 2. Belgium, = Ireland, 3. France, 4. Germany, 5. Spain.

It should be: 1. Israel, 2/3 Belgium, = Ireland, 4. France, 5. Germany, 6. Spain. Belgium and Ireland share the 2nd and 3rd place in this table, France stays on the 4th place as they are behind 3 other nations. The bronze colour shouldn't be used in this table as there is no 3rd place. Just as an example: in athletics, 2 runners who finish 2nd with the same time will both receive a silver medal, no bronze medal is handed out in such a case. Kralinger (talk) 13:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessessment of Switzerland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008
I have concluded the reassessment and delisted the article from the Good Articles list. Reasons are at Talk:Switzerland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008/GA2. If you disagree with this decision please take it to WP:GAR. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

RfC on reliable sources for Eurovision articles
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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - June 2009
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GA reassessment of San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008
I have conducted a reassessment of this article and found a large number of issues with the prose style, referencing and possible original research. There were so many that I delisted the article. These concerns can be found at Talk:San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008/GA2. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:34, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Straw poll on reliable sources for Eurovision articles
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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - July 2009
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Your GA nomination of Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008
The article Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 for things needed to be addressed. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it's not quite there yet. Feel free to renominate later. Drop me a line if you have any questions about remaining issues. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 02:50, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

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Melodifestivalen 2010
Hello. I want you to stop edit this article, beacuase you are edit it bad. I want you to look for the best article, and stop with placing the "artist" column first. If you look at the other tables so it is first "song", then "authors" and then "artist", etc.. /Hollac16 (talk) 21:11, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi again. What I mean is the tables that was there before I add the column "semi-finals". In these column it should be song-authours-artist. But in the coulums under "semi-finals" it should be as you added. Sorry for my bad English, but I hope you understand. /Hollac16 (talk) 20:30, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Dutch song
Hi, is there a source I'm missing which shows the song having brackets around "Shalalie", [http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=7643&_t=Dutch+song+first+known+for+Oslo! Eurovision.tv] lists the song as "Ik Ben Verliefd, Shalalie" (I Am In Love, Shalalie) with no brackets, thanks. --  [[ axg  ⁞⁞  talk   ]] 13:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Please go on TROS officiel site and you'll see that the title of the dutch song is Ik ben verlieft (Sha-la-lie) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mishko53 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

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WikiBirthday
I saw from here that it's been two years since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, rʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 12:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

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Junior Eurovision Song Contest
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Esc 2011 Map.svg
Hello! Please correct the map, with purple colour, because Hungary will participe at ESC 2011 --Madura mate (talk) 19:08, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Spain and Romania need to be added to the map.74.131.99.14 (talk) 20:32, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

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Na inat
Hello to you. I have had to revert you for your restoration on ESC 2011 of the Bulgarian translation. The word inat has several similarly related meanings and to impart precisely your point, one needs to examine the context. Na meaning "on" or "in" renders the following word a noun and the best translation is "out of spite". I realise English is your native language so you may have difficulty reading Cyrillic, but a good source is. Thanks. Evlekis (Евлекис) 18:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011
Thanks for this article Victuallers (talk) 18:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Thanks, for the message, but no, I prefer the new version, it looks quiet better than X X, I hope you approve this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donikanuhiu (talk • contribs) 16:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Please Explain
In this edit, you replaced my version of the Finals voting table with your own in a completely different arrangement. Other than the fact that consensus agreed on removing the endashes, which I can understand, please explain why you replaced my entire table - which was 100% accurate, I did it twice and it took me over four hours watching the video while copying down the numbers - with a version that was later reported in the talk pages to have errors in it. I am having a hard time accepting this edit. CycloneGU (talk) 23:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. The reason I made the change in the Eurovision scoreboard was to order the table firstly by running order in the final, then by running order in each semi-final, which has been used in all Eurovision voting tables since semi-finals were introduced. I apologise for any errors I made in it, but I also spent considerable time creating the table in my sandbox. I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) (talk) 23:16, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand that is what you copied from. However, I made my version to account for the voting order in the finals.  For instance, Russia presented its votes first.  For obvious reasons, this is easier to follow particularly for someone choosing to view the broadcast at a later date (in fact, the 2010 edition is still available, I noticed it watching the 2011 replay).  Also, because it uses the running order for presentation of votes, it seems more accurate.  For the semifinals, we don't get to see the presentation, so there is no set rule, and we can put them next to each other thus; however, with the finals, the broadcast has a voting order, and that is what I followed.  It makes more logical sense to me regardless of whatever something else says.  I believe we have a choice for how to arrange our own tables.
 * Also, I copied your comment here. Per the notice on my talkpage, please keep discussion centered in one location.  CycloneGU (talk) 23:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * In my opinion I believe there should be consistency between each year's contest, and that's why i rearranged the table into the previous order. The running order for the voting is situated on the page, so I only did what I felt was correct. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) (talk) 23:29, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If consistency is the concern, I'd happily redo every single table we have for every single year for the final. Might take me a while, but I'd do it.  I just believe presenting by vote presentation order in the final is a much better method of doing it, and if I have to volunteer to fix every year's table that way to achieve that, I'd do it.  I do not know if your version of the table still has errors, but I've removed all the endashes from my table here, which was my own sandbox page for working on the table.  All that would need to be done is colouring the X tiles (I think leaving the X is a good idea personally, but the colour helps) and it's done in a final version.  CycloneGU (talk) 23:35, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no issue with how the table is ordered, I was just following what was done before. If you like we can ask for a more general consensus on what way to order it at the Eurovision WikiProject, which I do not believe you are a member of so you may not know about. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) (talk) 23:44, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Duly noted, I did not know about it. Thanks for the tip, heading there.  CycloneGU (talk) 23:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

In case you didn't see it, I've posted a bit there. Your input would be welcome as to a precedent for future years. CycloneGU (talk) 00:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

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About the JESC 2011 song list
Look at the official song list published by the EBU: Please stick to that while editing the list. Thanks. Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 07:42, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Sims,

Just a quick note to see if Andorra should now be changed to grey on the file ? Now that Andorra have quit the EBU, they are no longer eligible to enter JESC, and therefore shouldn't really be coloured in yellow, which depicts a nation who had never entered but is eligible to do so. Wesley Mouse (talk) 15:55, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Poland withdrawal saga at Eurovision Song Contest 2012
Hi Sims, I thought that Poland wasn't going to be included as fully withdrawn yet (see ongoing discussion at Talk:Eurovision_Song_Contest_2012). There are too many conflicting articles going around the web, that there is nothing solid enough to state a full withdrawal of Poland in 2012. Apparently, TVP announced a withdrawal on Facebook - yet that piece of information isn't to be found on Facebook whatsoever. Then Oikotimes report (citing themselves as the original source) that TVP have exclusively told them that Poland are withdrawing - strangely, ESCToday also report (again they cite themselves as original source) that THEY were told exclusively by TVP, about the withdrawal. However, there is nothing on TVP's official website about this "official announcement" of a withdrawal, nor have the EBU reported this news - which we all know they are pretty quick at confirming details. Therefore, is it wise to include details of a Polish withdrawal when there are no solid sources to confirm it? Wesley Mouse (talk) 19:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Sims, I've replied to your response on my talk Page. Thanks - Wesley Mouse (talk) 21:15, 20 December 2011 (UTC)