User talk:Sir Joseph/Archive 2

Terre Haute Transit Utility
Please note that the article Terre Haute Transit already exists and, since they are both about the same subject, they should be merged. Secondarywaltz (talk) 15:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
Your nomination at Articles for Creation was declined, and Wikipedia& was not created. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer, and please feel free to request article creation again once the issues have been addressed. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia!  fetch  comms  ☛ 22:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Hatzalah
Yossiea, Since you were involved with editing the Hatzalah article I'd like to draw your attention to two discussion that I've opened on the talk page. One, regarding external links and region information and the other regarding using the list of chapters instead of a list in the article. Thank you, Joe407 (talk) 05:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Passover vs Passover (Christian holiday)
See discussion at Talk:Passover (Christian holiday). Thanks, IZAK (talk) 07:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

why would i advertise something i dont own that is nosense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.217.82 (talk) 16:04, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

You are a fucking disgrace, why did you delete my wikipedia post, I asked yesterday and you didn't reply, what a disgrace, I was just making a page for a beer brand, which i dont fucking own, why would I be advertising it?

Christian Yom Kippur discussion
Hi Yossiea: Regarding serious Christian content in the Yom Kippur article, please see Talk:Yom Kippur and Talk:Yom Kippur. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 08:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Hatzalah: Role of Dispatchers
Hi Yossiea: You quickly deleted my new paragraphs on the role of the dispatchers in Hatzalah stating that it was too NY centric. I have 2 comments: 1. Much of the entire article is about Hatzalah in the NY area with an amazing amount of local detail.

2. The volunteer dispatchers have a very key role to play in the success of Hatzalah and they are barely mentioned in the entire article. This is very much true in other locales as well - (I live outside the US and helped found the local Hatzalah here, and was a Hatzalah volunteer in NYC in the late 1960s/ early 70's)

I would have welcomed your adding a sentence like: "The NY area Hatzalah handles many calls per day and uses a sophisticated dispatching system ....followed by my text.

I respectfully ask you to reconsider. Thanks! 80.218.34.97 (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The dispatchers are already mentioned in the article, if you want to add the part about the NY dispatchers, then it should be added to the NY section. Yossiea (talk) 18:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Trinity Pacific Christian School (Newbury Park, CA)
Actually, high schools are inherently notable, so that should not have been a decline per nn, but rather a hold for reformatting sources or something similar. Cheers,  — fetch ·  comms   21:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * "oops. my bad." I knew that some schools are inherently notable, it must have slipped my mind. Also, this could be nitpicking, but is there a difference between a k-12 and a HS? Anyway, thanks for pointing it out to me. Yossiea (talk) 23:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * High school (in the US, at least) is 9-12, so K-12 (including primary schools, then) would include high schools. In any case, the article is back up for review, so happy editing!  — fetch ·  comms   23:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

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Bexley RFC
I am struggling to the Bexley RFC page setup and any advice would be much appreciated. I feel I have the groundwork in place for a good article that other people with more knowledge can add to. This club may not be the most successful club in the history of Rugby but has competed with limited resources in a highly competative rugby environment. As a result of not having the financial backing of other clubs there has been emphasis in building links to local schools and developing talented youngsters. this has resulted in players and former players getting recognition at county level and more recently at international level. the club has also in recent years won a high profile youth tournament than was represented by clubs as far as Italy. I feel this club along with all Rugby clubs plays a significant part of development of a national sport at grass roots level, also the local council has specifically mentioned the club in documentation referencing the value of the work Bexley RFC has put into the community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcmjco (talk • contribs) 10:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

AJOP
I am currently writing a paper on AJOP and I saw that you were one of the main contributors to the page. Some of the information on the page has no clear cited source, so I am not sure who wrote it. I, obviously, can only state things in my paper that I can back up, so I was wondering that if you know much about the topic, you would be willing to talk more about it.

Thank you.

SaychelTov (talk) 05:59, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Second-time AFD
You may be interested in this second-time AFD for Chaverim (volunteers). Yoninah (talk) 18:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Larry David
Everything I wrote about Larry David is true. I do not understand how it is considered vandelism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.30.130 (talk) 09:23, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Extreme behavoir that is
Extreme behavoir that is — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.0.127 (talk) 09:54, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrol
Hi. Thank you for patrolling  new pages. Could you point me to  where the creator  has requested deletion of Happy Squirrels per G7? It looks as if you  tagged it yourself. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:36, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for cleaning up my talk page. Cheers! -- Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 09:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, I know what it's like. I'm thinking of having my page protected. Yossiea (talk) 09:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Im sorry.
Hey,

I didn't realize I was making actual changes. I'm new to this. Everytime I reloaded the page what I had put was gone. I thought that meant that I wasn't really editing it. I didn't realize you were sending me messages so I didn't realize that the posts were being deleted. I appreciate wikipedia and feel that I can be a positive member of it's community. Please do not have me barred from editing because of this blunder.

Thank you for your concern and help.

- guy who edited the logical fallacies post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.0.94.174 (talk) 09:10, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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I need help getting my biography page posted for Missy Ward
You just declined the page for Missy Ward: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Missy_Ward

I need help getting this article approved I added a ton of resources and I want this person to be linkable from their company page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_Summit as her co-founder was able to do. I am not sure why the co-founder of this business was able to get a page up and I am not able to get Missy up with more references than Shawn has.

Can you please guide me?

Thank you MarySBP (talk) 16:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * What you need is independent sources that verify notability. In addition, you should have inline references after something that needs to be referenced. Yossiea (talk) 22:20, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Rollback Privilege
I used to do a lot of anti-vandalism work, and now that I have more time on my hands, was hoping to get back into that. I downloaded a program called "Huggle", but it requires the user to have the rollback function, which I do not have. (I did have it in the old days when I was really into this, and did thousands of edits responsibly) Now it seems that the function is reserved for admins these days. I don't wish to apply for adminship just to get the rollback function back, but I understand that there is a process where normal editors like myself can get the rollback funtion without becoming an admin. I've looked all over, and I cannot find a page where I can apply for this. Can you point me in the right direction? --Sue Rangell &#91; citation needed &#93; 21:35, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback good luck! Yossiea (talk) 01:20, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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You rejected Samknows2: 2WR of Georgia, Inc.
You rejected the above referenced document http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samknows2&diff=next&oldid=518956841. You stated there needed to be more verified information outside of that created by the entity. ALL reference information included was by other sources; not the submitting source or the firm. You should reference HOK, HKS and other similar firms currently covered by Wikipedia: HKS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HKS,_Inc. HOK - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellmuth,_Obata_and_Kassabaum

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 * Hello and thanks for contributing. Please don't take it personally, but you have to assert notability. Wikipedia is not a directory of companies. Thank you. Yossiea (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Mishneh Torah
Yeah, it was a joke, based on something that was going on somewhere else. Thanks for accommodating; you guys are the best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.231.17.126 (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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18:05:38, 17 September 2015 review of submission by Nupur2000
Nupur2000 (talk) 18:05, 17 September 2015 (UTC) Please help me out. what else I need to feed in this article ? Coz he is a renowned DJ  from India. and his contribution towards Indian bollywood music is immense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nupur2000 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to put into the article something that asserts notability. Why should what you're writing be in an encyclopedia? You need to include significant coverage and references. Yossiea (talk) 18:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Dispute
Hello there! I don't think we've met, but I see you roam the 7th circle of AfC! I thought you might be interested in chiming in at this discussion, given your knowledge of Judaism. It'd be nice to see this resolved. Thank you for your input. Regards, FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  19:29, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I took a quick look. I try not to get involved in religious issues disputes, they tend to go in circles and I'm also not the most knowledgeable person out there. Yossiea (talk) 14:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Request on 06:22:56, 1 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Nittennair
Hi I have editted the article multiple time and have provided references. Could you help me edit this article so that it can get approved?

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08:05:06, 20 October 2015 review of submission by Kiffsy
Citation help

Hi there. I am trying to sumbit my first article and feel like a bit of a baffoon. Can you help direct me in regards to which sources need citations?

Article : Mike Conyers CEO of ResDiary

He is is a really interesting character and a titan of scottish industry, so I need to know how to get this up :-)

Thanks

Kiffsy (talk) 08:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm not a real expert on citations, you might want to check out the teapost or whatever it's called. Basically, anything that you insert needs to be verifiable. So if you claim that Mike Conyers can do X, X needs to be referenced. You don't need a citation on every sentence but it needs to be verifiable, especially if it's a biography of a living person. Yossiea (talk) 13:37, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

17:35:19, 4 November 2015 review of submission by 193.4.74.32
Hi. My article was declined as it was mentioned it was the same as another page. This is incorrect as REYST is another organization all together. I can't delete or redirect that page unless there is another page to redirect it to hence why I created a new page under the Iceland School of Energy title.
 * OK, my mistake, so in that case, feel free to resubmit the AFC. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 19:27, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert - Arab–Israeli conflict
Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:07, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration case request dismissed
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request
Regardless, I don't think a topic ban is warranted in this case. At the end of the day and measuring everything, I think we can continue without additional sanctions. I didn't edit war on a sanctionable page. I think we can put this behind us. My take on the situation here is that they are suggesting a 10 block as a cooling off period. Consider the first block, for a personal attack, and then consider the second block, for another personal attack. Consider as well your responses. It does seem as if you are trying to justify your comments. I can reasonably understand your comments but there's no justification for them. Calling a Hezbollah supporter a terrorist is out of line. Your appeal a personal attack and while discussing the appeal you make another personal attack. A cooling off period is reasonable. You've not really said much to assure that this will not happen again.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 00:48, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The discretionary sanctions apply to any pages that include this topic, period, and unquestionably apply here. It is not your place to pass judgment on the personal beliefs of other editors, period; in fact, you should not comment on other editors at all but instead focus on content. It is quite clear that you see nothing wrong with your comments and that tells me you yourself have a personal bias that you are unable and unwilling to keep out of your editing, and as such, you should be prevented from editing in this topic area at the minimum. We have absolutely no place in this contentious area of content for editors who are going to make personal attacks or judge the personal beliefs of others. Not only is a topic ban warranted, it will be the minimum sanction imposed against you at this point. As far as a 10 day block goes, this is exceedingly reasonable. You are at the community's mercy as to whether you are unblocked at all and quite frankly you are not helping your own case here. S warm   ♠  22:36, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * But I did it on my talk page, not on a topic page, that is what is confusing to me. I understand a block, but why a topic block? I didn't vandalize the topic pages. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) \
 * The sanctions apply to any page on Wikipedia that discuss the topic. S warm   ♠  02:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I did not know that a user talk page also has that. Also, wouldn't that then mean that a user box calling for the death of Israelis should result in a topic ban?

Lastly, I've never been banned before. As you can see from my logs, I don't usually get involved in disputes so I don't know what all these terms being thrown around means.I'm sorry for insulting people and I won't do it again and I really don't want a topic ban. I think that's going too far for something I didn't know about. I beg you to let me try again, I've been here for almost ten years. Please let me continue.Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 19:27, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * and I'm not justifying my remarks. I apologize for that. I'm now just asking what's the difference between a talk page and auserbox? Personally, I think once unblocked, I'm removing my boxes, I've had them since they were cool, in 2006, but serve no purpose. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 19:36, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not acceptable on your talk page or anywhere on Wikipedia. Two factors that really made it worse, 1) is that you targeted an ideological opponent who you are in a content dispute with in a topic area under general sanctions and 2)you did so while under seeking an AE review which puts you under a microscope and brings more admin eyes your way. A topic ban, and again this is my personal take on the situation, but it depends on what issues the admins are specifically looking at. Just viewing the personal attacks alone your behavior is escalating inappropriately. Beyond that if they look further there's other things to consider. For instance in 2014 that block you received was for violating 1RR in List of Military occupations that was put in place by WP:ARBPIA. This block here, the first one was for an attack at that very article. The second seems related. Consider the IDHT behavior and the inappropriate notification in violation of canvassing policy. Again it depends specifically on what each admin views as an issue. The personal attacks are simply enough, to my understanding, because you are not recognizing the issue in that. If you don't understand what your disruption is, the general consensus is that you can't actually understand what the issue is you can't be expected or trusted to change that behavior. The behavior is considered disruptive and the goal is to stop the disruption. Since the disruption is related to the topic area, and since you have not had any issues in other topic areas, removing you from the topic area will stop the disruption. But again this is my general take on the subject. Personally they have the grounds to do it but honestly I think they should just give you the rope. I assume you will take what ever appropriate action to manage the stress that lead to this in the first place when entering this topic area in the future. You should review what the administrators have said both here and over at the AE thread and consider those statements before responding further. Right now, focus on your own behavior is what I would recommend. This is what they seem concerned with ATM to me.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 03:18, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * thank you. I am sorry for insulting you. It was wrong and it was the heat of the moment getting to me. Personally, I see the way you're acting now and while I disagree with a lot of your opinions, I would be honored to continue editing sticks with you. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 19:27, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You haven't personally offended me. I've edited enough in WP:ARBPIA to know this happens. When people feel strongly about something emotion can get he better of them.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 20:31, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * thank you. But do you think a ten day and a tban is overkill? I think ten days is more than enough, but I'm not going to fight that, but I don't think I should have a topic ban, especially since I didn't even know you can get one from your talk page. Can you please let ae know all I wrote today, from my talk page? Thanks. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 20:41, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * and then, just to ask, is a Hezbollah user box allowed? Or is it allowed by a user doing edits in the sanctionable area? Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 20:47, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * One has no bearing on the other. As per the box, as I understand and if nothing has changed then there's nothing wrong with that specific box, other boxes have been barred. But you are basically considering that inherent bias to be a COI. There's bias everywhere. Consider an American writing Russian history. English speaking Israeli citizens writing articles on the Palestinian conflict. Pro-life people writing articles about abortion. There's bias there but we don't consider it a COI that would prevent them from writing neutrally. You have to consider the external role or relationship when considering a COI. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 21:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * so then why would a comment on my talk page result in atban? If you read the discretion notice above, it also says only pages about Israel. My edit on my talk page should not result in a topic ban. Especially since I had absolutely no idea that my talk page falls under discretionary sanctions., not a bias buy a sanction violation.Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 21:39, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * They indef blocked you because you called someone else a terrorist. They could have blocked you with discretionary sanctions or with out. Though to mention, The Admin that changed it to indefinite didn't seem to do so on the basis of discretionary sanctions. Honestly, You really need to stop trying to wikilawyer this. It doesn't help you. They have caught you violating policy. They watched it escalate further. They want to know that you understand what you did wrong. They want to know that you are going to take action in the future to see that it doesn't happen again. They are going to take what ever action necessary to prevent your disruption.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 22:02, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to wikilawyer, if they do a ten day sanction I'll be fine with that, my point is that I should not also get a topic ban. They want to give me ten days and a topic ban.that to me makes no sense, based on what I wrote.again, I'm not trying to argue, but how am I supposed to know that my talk page is subject to discretionary sanctions? Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 22:07, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * "The area of conflict in this case shall be considered to be the entire set of Arab-Israeli conflict-related articles, broadly interpreted." But regardless, you do understand even if you ignore the discretionary sanctions calling someone a terrorist like you did is always inappropriate. Whether or not you you knew that discretionary sanctions were in play you should have known that was inappropriate. They are going for the topic ban because it seems necessary because of your escalating behavior. You have to convince them that it's not. what can you do to alleviate their concerns?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 22:35, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * the only thing I can say is that this cooling, de escalated. In the future, I will hope to go back to my usual method of think twice post once. Like you said, this was an abberation. And like you and others, elsewhere, have said, tbans are punishments that in this case is not necessary needed. Worst case, why not give me a chance? Hasn't my tenure here made me deserve at least that? Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 23:10, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The first thing I would do is make a statement a very clears statement that shows you do in fact understand perfectly well why you got blocked, both blocks. Then I would ping Swarm. Swarm seems to be a skilled and knowledgeable Admin, they maybe be able to talk with you and both of you come up with an alternative means to help alleviate the concern that you will cause further disruption. I'm not exactly sure what can be done so no promises, but I've seen agreements develop before in cases like this.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 00:00, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I hope my statement below is a good start. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 00:57, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

List of Military Occupations
The page specifies that the page does not include those occupations that were annexed, yet Jerusalem and the Golan Heights were both annexed by Israel. This is of course, besides the Gaza Strip which is not under a military occupation. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 14:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Aliyah Page
Can someone look at that page and revert? It was reverted without consensus. I will comment on that page once unblocked. It is not a political page, it is a religious page and it should be reflected on that. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 14:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Please look at the edits of K_Mattar, at the Aliyah page, he is editing without consensus and he appears to be changing all mentions of Israel and Land of Israel to Palestine, when it has nothing to do with it. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 15:02, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

November 2015
To enforce an arbitration decision and for making a personal attack in this edit on the page Talk:List of military occupations, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page:. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. S warm  ♠  22:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC) <p style="line-height: 90%;"> Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."


 * Done at WP:AE. S warm   ♠  05:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you read the talk page? It's full of bad faith, and furthermore, one of the editors is a supporter of hezbollah, look at his userpage. Why would I assume good faith for a terrorist supporter? Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 05:15, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It is unfair that I get blocked but others do not for also not assuming good faith. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 05:23, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It is also unfair that I can't respond to the allegations. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 05:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I read both discussions and no, it's not full of bad faith. It's full of editors on both sides of the argument repeating the same thing multiple times, while making no effort to provide reliable sourcing or seek out dispute resolution, but I don't see any reason not to assume good faith. Nableezy appears to be a highly established editor in good standing and the fact that you perceive his personal viewpoints to be different from yours does not give you license to accuse him of bad motivations. The discussion is under discretionary sanctions and a higher level of decorum is expected. By accusing him of only caring about his personal bias, you have committed an assumption of bad faith, a personal attack, and have breached the expected standards of conduct. S warm   ♠  05:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Someone who has this on their page "This user supports the right of all individuals and groups to violently resist military aggression and occupation by other parties, but due to an alleged consensus he is disallowed from naming particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable." is not someone Wikipedia should be touting as a model editor. 2) This by serialjospsych is not WP:AGF "The original research here is blatant. It's a waste of time for anyone to even respond. One editor's WP:IDHT, pushing for the acceptability of this but only if they can say Egypt is an occupier. They have multiple times been asked for a reliable source to justify it. Instead of doing so they move on continuing IDHT promoting original research. Another editor latches on to that original research. Another editor comes in with original research, ignores what they source used says and then reasons that the sources must be out of date because they don't line up with his original research. " Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 05:35, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

That is a bad comment to quote because it's entirely accurate. What I see there is an editor asking for you to provide reliable sources to support your position. That is not unreasonable, that is fundamentally how this project works, and you made absolutely no effort to substantiate your position with sources and instead repeated unsourced claims and exhibited WP:IDHT behavior in repeating the same things over and over again rather than responding to the opposing viewpoints. Regardless, that has no bearing on this block. You made an explicit personal attack, apparently because you disagree with a view the editor expresses on their user page. That is unacceptable. S warm  ♠  05:47, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I will be away for at least the next 24 hours, so I won't be responding for quite some time. Good luck with your appeal. S warm   ♠  05:49, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I did bring sources. I brought Wikipedia articles. I brought their own logic. They didn't like it so they ignored it. So I asked again, if they claim Israel is militarily occupying Gaza by blockading Gaza, why is Egypt not doing the same? Egypt is also blockading Gaza. How is that not not the same thing? And yes, if people can't see that, then it is anti-Israel, the same UN that puts Saudi Arabia as the bastion of Human Rights but puts Israel as the most evil nation on earth. So I do have a valid claim for asking if someone is anti-Israel if after me asking them why Egypt gets special treatment that Israel does not get. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 06:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles and "logic" are not sources. Citations to material complaint with WP:RS are sources.   Gamaliel  ( talk ) 20:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Furthermore, just so you know, nableezy is a supporter of Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. I doubt he should be editing this since a terrorist who endorses terror has a COI. It's certainly not IDHT to point out that if Israel is occupying Gaza due to a blockade, then Egypt is too. That, and the page is MILITARY occupation and as was repeatedly pointed out by others on the page, including debresser and fran9 there is no Israeli military presence in Gaza. I guess this is why James Madison said the Masses are asses. We have a Hezbollah terrorist telling me I'm not assuming good faith, and Wikipedia is banning me. That's why nobody takes Wikipedia seriously, and why I'm thinking of leaving.
 * I am writing about my block. I have provided sources, repeatedly. They keep posting that Gaza is under occupation. Yet the page they are editing is Military Occupation and it is different than a "regular" occupation. They then continue and say the reason why Israel is occupying Gaza is because Israel controls the border of Gaza. Well, Egypt does the same and I provided a link to that. When I pointed out, not too seriously that Hamas used to occupy Gaza, I provided a link to that, that Hamas was in charge of Gaza and it was not recognized by the PA, Israel or the US (among other International countries).


 * I'm not going to defend Yossiea's behavior - it is combative and uncooperative and he seems to have no awareness that it is inappropriate. But the user in question has had a userbox on his user page since 2010 which complains that he can't have a pro-Hezbollah userbox, and regularly has used his userpage as a soapbox on related issues.  I don't think he should be calling out other editors, but I'm not sure an indef block is appropriate in this case.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 20:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Not sure if this is the right place to comment for a non-admin. I'm quite new to en wikipedia and am not familiar with all corners of it. I participated in the discussion in the List of Military Occupations. While I don't agree with some of Yossiea reactions and don't think it is helpful to call other editors terrorists supporters (no matter whether they are or not), an indefinite block seems to me a bit too strict. In support of Yossia, I would like to remark that the discussion was quite heated anyway and some comments from "the other side" were also at least on the border of personal attacks (can provide links if this helps). Franp9am (talk) 21:02, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that, and I would appreciate it if you would also comment at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE. Thanks! (And this is not canvassing.) Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 21:04, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm begging you guys please unblock me. I enjoy editing Wikipedia. I have been editing since 2005 I think. I have been active on and off for all that time. Do you think I want to stop? I don't want to lose this. Please unblock me. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 03:13, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * An indefinite block is not a permanent block. It's a block that last only as long as necessary to end disruption. At the AE opened on your behalf Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement one person has expressed concern that you don't understand the reason that you have been indef blocked though it is obvious. They question the ultimate likelihood of you ceasing your hostilities towards people you disagree with if you deny or don't understand the reason for the block. I feel that its likely you do understand why you were blocked. So the simple question would be do you?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 04:03, 13 November 2015 (UTC)4
 * 1) I do understand. 2) My point was and I think you mentioned it was that a) things are heated, b) a hezbollah supporter, etc. 3) I don't think I will be as active in Israel related stuff. I can't deal with the stress. I've been here since 2005 or so, and I've been in a couple of stupid edit wars, you should check out my dealing with daniel575 and his 9 sockpuppets and how he chased away good editors. I decided a few months ago to get back into editing Wikipedia and decided to also get back into content editing and not just AFC/AFD which I used to do more often. But I guess I won't. And as far as Gaza, I still think you were missing the point with the difference between military and regular occupation. But it makes no difference in the real world what a list on Wikipedia means. I took my chill pill. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 04:39, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok you understand that calling this individual a terrorist (I forget whom) was wrong. It happened due to the stress of a heated discussion. And you feel that staying out of Israel based topic areas will help insure that this doesn't happen again? This is my understanding of what you are saying but I do not wish to misquote you.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 05:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

As for the punishment, I think I learned my lesson regardless. I don't think I need a topic ban because there is such a huge assortment of articles out there that I am bound to run into it. For example, I uploaded a picture to Har Nof, and that had nothing to do with a dispute. I will be more careful in the future. I don't think sanctions are warranted, a block of two days was more than enough. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 05:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I have proposed we redefine the AE sanction to a 10 day block and indefinite topic ban. I'm not sure if people will support that, but if they don't, I recommend you refile an AE appeal in one month. You will be more likely to be unblocked then. Regards, S warm   ♠  05:32, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * If you're going to topic ban me then I don't understand the ten day part? Also, just out of curiosity, what would you call someone who has this on their userpage "This user supports the right of all individuals and groups to violently resist military aggression and occupation by other parties, but due to an alleged consensus he is disallowed from naming particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable." and I ask this seriously. I understand I can't call someone a terrorist. But if someone had on their userpage a userbox saying they support OBL or ISIS or Boko Haram or the IRA, or half a dozen other, wouldn't that be incitement, or fighting words? In some countries, it would even be illegal to display and in the US, it might be legally considered fighting words. Just a thought.
 * User:EdJohnston please read this diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=690281384#Review_of_past_issues and this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:User_pages#Rephrase_suggestion_to_WP:UP.23POLEMIC please. It might shed some light on current issues. Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 06:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Lastly, I think sanctions are unnecessary because quite simply they're not needed. I don't have a big history of abuse that warrants such an extreme sanction as a topic ban.
 * I don't know why edjohnson closed the ae request. Now I don't know if I should be mad or not.


 * I hope it was not my comment that brought you such a trouble ? Either way, I would strongly suggest to unblock you because I am sure that no one has been actually offended by your comment.  Here is the problem. Someone who supports Hezbollah is not necessarily a terrorist himself. This is a cultural thing. For example, these guys who are basically Terrorists the Founders have been described as national heroes in the Soviet historiography and literature, and still remain national heroes for many. My very best wishes (talk) 00:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * So, I think you should ask to remove/withdraw all your statements currently hanging on WP:AE or completely change your statements. Your first comment was indeed a comment on a contributor, and "calling a supporter of Hezbollah a terrorist" (your 2nd paragraph copy-pasted to AE) was wrong. My very best wishes (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I am blocked, so I can't do anything. I will do almost anything to get to posting again. Sometimes people misinterpret what I type and I am not trying to say something bad but they think I am but I'm just asking a question or something. Feel free to post or remove or ask to removethings.Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 19:33, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * OK. So, I will remove them per your request. If you want to post something else instead, please post it here on your talk page. My very best wishes (talk) 19:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * thank you. Can you please comment on the ae? I really am sorry and don't want a topic ban.Yossiea <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 19:47, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem is not your editing of content, but commenting about other contributors. Can you simply never comment about other contributors anywhere except cases when someone complains about you on administrative noticeboards and you need to explain your own content edits, rather than anything else? Just to clarify, asking something like this would be asking/commenting about another contributor. Of course you can look at a userbox and make your own conclusions, but you should not rise this matter anywhere to "get" him. If you do not change your behavior in this way, I would expect you to be quickly blocked again in the subject area so contentious as ARBPIA. My very best wishes (talk) 21:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)