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Request
Dear sir, as administrator, you are requested to stop Mr. Mayor for making lobby against all Dalits on Hindi Wikipedia.--Dalitwiki (talk) 15:16, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide me with more information? — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  15:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Eliminator user group in hi wiki
Hi anirudh, I have made a new user group "eliminator" on hi wiki A group which is made to handle vandalism(members will able to roll back, delete, undelete), As you normally works on commons and will require this group membership to delete any copy right images, So if you are interested then let me know, thank you and regards--Mayurbot (talk) 08:22, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
Thanks Logan! This day completes my five years with Wikimedia projects! :) — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  12:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

HI
I'm here ;-) --Ask21 (talk) 16:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message, Ask21. It was wonderful chatting with you. :) —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  17:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Account Creation Improvement Project
Hello,

You signed up on the Account Creation Improvment Project on the Outreach wiki. Thanks. Now, we are looking for help. We are going to test the pages that are in the account creation process right now, against any pages that you create. More information.

Best wishes, SvHannibal (talk) 15:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Happy adminship anniversary
Wishing Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Armbrust WrestleMania XXVII Undertaker 19–0 15:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Looking for Hindi Wikipedians
Hello Nearly Headless Nick!

I'm Maryana, a research fellow for the Wikimedia Foundation. I wanted to direct your attention to this -- a fellowship program I'm running this summer that seeks to pair graduate students working in the humanities with veteran Wikipedians from different language projects, with the goal of producing histories of non-English Wikipedia communities. One of our potential researchers speaks Hindi (and can read Urdu and Sanskrit), so I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'll know someone from hi.wiki who can be her guide to the community's history. If you or someone you know sounds like a good candidate for the job, please let me know! Also, she'll likely be in India this summer and is interested in meeting Wikipedians in Delhi, Jaipur, or anywhere in the northwestern part of the country. Do you happen to know any Wikipedians there or know of any upcoming meetups? (Or is all the action in Bangalore and Mumbai?)

You can email me at mpinchuk [at] wikimedia.org, or just play talk page tag :-) Thanks! Hope to hear from you soon! --Buickmackane (talk) 19:31, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

UK Supreme Court case drive
Hi! Thanks for taking the time to read this message.

As you may know, the United Kingdom Supreme Court has been hearing cases for about 18 months now, taking over from the House of Lords as the Court of Last Resort for most appeals within the United Kingdom.

During that time, the court has handed down 87 judgements (82 of which were on substantive appeals). Wikipedia covers around 11 of these and rarely in any detail. Some very important cases (including Radmacher v Granatino [2010] UKSC 42 (prenups) and Norris v USA [2010] UKSC 9 (extradition)) are not covered at all.

I'm proposing a drive to complete decent quality articles for all, or at least a good proportion of these cases as soon as possible. If we can eliminate the backlog then a small group of editors might want to stick around to ensure articles are created relatively speedily for new cases. Since the Court process, on average, one case a week this shouldn't be too great a task.

I'd like to ask you to help with this drive, and help make Wikipedia a credible source for UKSC case notes.

How you can help


 * Help me improve this Template:Infobox SCOTUK casetemplate based off the US Supreme Court equivalent.


 * Complete that template and add it to existing cases.


 * Improve formatting & prose. Copyediting.


 * Improve the coverage of cases we have articles on, including adding content, sourcing and fact-checking


 * Create new articles for UKSC cases


 * Improve the categorisation and listing of UKSC cases.


 * Improve the judgment listings articles: 2009 Judgments of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom 2010 Judgments of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom 2011 Judgments of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom

Thanks for reading!, Sincerely Bob House 884 (talk) 23:22, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Can you please help ? naveenpf (talk) 08:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Introducing WikiAfrica to Wikimedia Kenya
Hi. I am glad to see that Kenya is starting a WikiMedia Chapter. I am running the WikiAfrica project on WIkipedia, and I wonder if you could give me the names of the members who are driving the bid to become a recognised Chapter? I would like to contact them and introduce them to WikiAfrica, and what we are trying to achieve. I think it would be beneficial to all of us if we could work together. I look forward to hearing from you. Islahaddow (talk) 11:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Introducing WikiAfrica to Wikimedia Kenya
Hi. I am glad to see that Kenya is starting a WikiMedia Chapter. I am running the WikiAfrica project on WIkipedia, and I wonder if you could give me the names of the members who are driving the bid to become a recognised Chapter? I would like to contact them and introduce them to WikiAfrica, and what we are trying to achieve. I think it would be beneficial to all of us if we could work together. I look forward to hearing from you. Islahaddow (talk) 11:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Friendly shout out
First time commenter, long time stalker. I wanted to give you a friendly hello and a huge thanks! We anons appreciate (or are the unfortunate "martyr" of, depending on the intent of our contributions, ha ha ha ;D) all that you do. Please keep on being fantastic, and thanks for all the service you've given the wiki. Merry editing!155.8.89.2 (talk) 18:11, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

ISA edits
I think the page introduction shouldn't include the repeal of the said Act. That belongs to "history". After all : Pages should have a good but short introductory paragraph which includes the title in bold and explains in the a few sentences what the page is about. It will often be appropriate to include a link to a more general page and to a few more specific pages to help people navigate to the correct page. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. Philipkhor (talk) 02:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the message, Philipkhor. The guideline which you have quoted is from Open Street Map and not the English Wikipedia.  Since the news is very substantive, with respect to the topic on which the article is written, it is appropriate that it be presented in the lead section. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  10:39, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Understood. Philipkhor (talk) 09:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Stories Project
Hello,

My name is Victor Grigas, and I'm a storyteller at the Wikimedia foundation. We're telling stories of Wikipedia users, editors, donors, programmers and staff to paint a picture of who uses Wikipedia - for the 2011 fundraiser.

I am in the process of planning a trip to India to gather stories from Indian Wikipedians in face-to-face interviews (possibly on video).

My primary goal is to conduct 15-20 interviews, and hopefully enough of my interviews will make compelling stories that will effectively solicit donations from the public. These stories may also be used for other communication purposes by the foundation.

I found your userpage on a list of prolific Wikipedians and thought I’d reach out to you. Prolific editing is always a good story to tell!

If you are interested in participating, please contact me via my email:

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Thank you for your time!

Victor

About me: I have been a Wikipedia editor since 2005, and have a background in film, video and audio. My userpage can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas

Lead paragraph of International Religious Freedom Act of 1998
You may wish to respond to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Religious_Freedom_Act_of_1998#Questionable_non-sourced_sentence_in_lead_paragraph

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 * Thanks. Fixed &mdash; . — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  10:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Khalistan

 * I believe that Sikhism and Khalistan is intertwined, it is a form of ethnic nationalism, it does not mean that all believers in Sikhism subscribe to Khalistan/Sikh nationalism. I think it would be better to form consensus on the talk page before making major changes to the article, like all the previous editors have done so before. Gsingh (talk) 20:07, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the message, Gsingh. I am happy to initiate a thread on the talk page of the article. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  20:21, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Question regarding userspace
I'd like to make a parody page of Stop Online Piracy Act in my own userspace. Are there any limitations to doing something of the sort?  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 13:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see this: NOT. Thanks. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  13:31, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've read through WP:NOT many times, yet it doesn't specify anything against what I'm considering doing. I've seen other users with satirical content in their userspace, what would be inappropriate about mine?  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 13:38, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming you're referring to WP:NOTANARCHY?  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 13:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, I'm not likely to follow through anyways. But thanks for your imput.  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 13:47, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not making a judgment call here as I have not seen the content posted yet. Also, I am unlikely to object to the content posted in your own user space. However, it is possible that some other users may have issues the pages if they believe that they contravene policy. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  13:50, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No content has been posted. I have changed my mind (partly due to laziness, and partly to do with paranoia). Thanks for giving me the time of day, I really appreciate it.  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 13:59, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Norwegian butter crisis
The DYK project (nominate) 15:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

You deserve a barnstar, and you just got one!

 * Thanks, Ashlin! — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  19:58, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Sourcing is not optional
You are required to add clear, reliable sources for biographical material. Starting a list of links to article biographies, as with List of current Singaporean MPs without any sources is unacceptable. See WP:V, WP:BLP. elle vécut heureuse à jamais  (be free) 20:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I am still in the process of preparing the article. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  20:34, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

As I recall, characteristics such as religion, sexual orientation etc. have to be sourced before being included. elle vécut heureuse à jamais  (be free) 04:04, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

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SPI
Hi, I just finished investigation of Sockpuppet investigations/Searchertoo. The filer has been indef blocked in the meantime and can't pursue this further for now, but during the investigation I've noticed your name on some of the related talk page and noticeboard discussions, so I believe you are active in the same area. I well realize that you and La goutte de pluie do not see eye to eye on most issues, but I'm leaving you this pointer nonetheless in case you think that the result of the SPI case needs any follow-up action on those articles. Cheers, Amalthea  18:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hide edit summary
Can you hide the edit summary in one of the edits in Barkha Dutt similar to one you redacted on talk? Thanks!  Srikanth (Logic)  18:32, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Which edit are you referring to, specifically? — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  19:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks!  Srikanth (Logic)  19:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Barkha Dutt
Hi, can you explain what is actually going on with all the blogger to-ing and fro-ing at Barkha Dutt. I understand WP:BLP but cannot help feeling that there is a subtext that I am missing somewhere.

There appears to be an allegation, supported at least by some sources, that BD sued a blogger and that resulted in the blogger retracting & issuing an apology. Is the problem that the sources are not good enough, that the issue is trivial, that it is undue weight, or what? I don't know the backstory & cannot even recall how I suddenly ended up with this article on my watchlist.

If an explanation would be better placed at Talk:Barkha Dutt then feel free. I know that you have tried there before but perhaps we need to start over, for everyone's sake? - Sitush (talk) 01:34, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The question is not whether it's the truth or not, but whether the sources that are being used reliable, secondary and authoritative. The more exceptional the claim, the more we need to find corroborative sources which qualify as WP:RS. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  06:04, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, I m Yash. user -Rsrikanth05 informed me that there are meetings held of wikipedians in ahmedabad. Even I m in Ahmedabad. So please can u tell me that how to be informed if another meeting is going to hapen?? --Yasht101 (talk) 01:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message, Yash. Can you please join the Wikimedia India mailing list and the Wikimedia Ahmedabad community mailing list? That way you can stay abreast of national and local developments, including notifications for meetups and conferences. If you want to take the lead for organizing the next city event, please let me know and we will work something out for the month of February 2012. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  05:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably I m the youngest Wikipedian from Ahmedabad Bcuz i m just 15. As I have my board exams in March, i cant help to organize the meetup in February 2012. But i will be free for a month in April. So we can manage something for April or later but i will be still considered as a Teenager by my parents. So i will not be helpful in organizing the meetup properly but still can help a lot. Anyways i have joined the mailing list and if u need any assistance that I can offer in organizing the meetup after my exams, I will be really happy to help! --Yasht101 (talk) 15:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No issues. Looking forward to seeing you attend one of our meetups.  Great going! —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  15:44, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sir, I have only 1 question: Few days ago I read something published in AHMEDABAD MIRROR by A Admin of wikipedia from A'bad (that thing inspired me to join wikipedia). So, were the admin you?? --Yasht101 (talk) 15:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's me. (-: — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  16:01, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Can i know ur Facebook profile address? --Yasht101 (talk) 03:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Send me an email. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  07:42, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Good to see the young ones all getting involved. Good luck and all the best. [: )]. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Email
--Yasht101 (talk) 08:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Bhati
I've just reverted you at Bhati - the RfC outcome was "no scripts", although IPA is ok. - Sitush (talk) 08:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, can you link me to the RfC? — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  08:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Was just about to do that! It is a messy one, but the clarification by the closer is here. The original bit is here. I cannot handle IPA: profoundly deaf since birth & it is all pretty much meaningless to me. - Sitush (talk) 08:04, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * From my reading of the RfC, there is no clear consensus on the use of languages on articles. The closing admin notes that there is consensus to use the IPA to aid pronounciation. Moreover, the discussion seems to generally revolve around biographical articles only, not on ethnic tribes and groups. I think the closing administrator erred in his judgment, and the clarification note that you have linked me to is not just a clarification, but an addendum. The RfC could have been better handled by laying down issues coherently, but now we find ourselves with a rule that has to be consistently applied throughout the project on India-related articles(?) contrary to the internationally accepted practice on the encyclopedia. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  08:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It was utterly chaotic, as seems to be common with India-related article discussions. Personally, I am happy to see them gone because the warring over scripts is quite ridiculous & this is English Wikipedia. I have also come across instances where scripts were being used deliberately to insult or malign (or, at least, that has been the reason given for their removal - I'll rack my brain for an example or two). The closing of the RfC could have been better but I rather think that the need for the later clarification is a fair reflection of the chaos. - Sitush (talk) 08:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this needs wider input than a handful of users (mostly from India) deciding on this subject. A far better alternative could have been to come up with objective guidelines for use of scripts and building consensus for use. A good start would be a properly drafted RfC with coherent presentation of issues. Would you like to help me with framing the issues? —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  08:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't !vote in the RfC, as far as I can recall. I watched it go on and had a fair amount to say in the BLP thread that spun off below it. However, I do have a fairly strong view on the subject, specifically in relation to India ... and not a great deal of experience relating to how it is dealt with for other scripted langiuages (eg: Arabic). All of this might not make me the person best placed to assist in drafting a revised RfC but I am happy to assist in between sorting out issues related to the James Tod article, which is at FAC. My gut feeling is that, as with so much here that is Indian, you are not going to get a lot of input from those without a specific interest & it will descend into chaos when the likes of AnimeshK certain people get involved, but we'll never know unless it is tried. - Sitush (talk) 08:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW, one particularly awkward issue arises from the discussion being focussed at WT:INB. This is how we deal with scripts used in articles that historically transcend national boundaries, most notably those relating to the present Pakistani Punjab region, Pakistan-administered Kashmir etc. As a minimum, a note should have been left with the Pakistani project that referred them to the discussion. - Sitush (talk) 08:57, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Shoeing
--Bbb23 (talk) 17:38, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

About HCL
No body puts management philosophy of a company and most importantly u has just provided links rather than providing those as a reference/sources. Don't remove the tag that i had put in the article because there are lot of improvements needs to be done. Many bullshit stuff had been put without adequate relevant source.Thanks-- Kkm 010 * ۩ ۞ 09:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

comment ..
re: ''Support merging the campaign article into this one. The "Savage campaign" is a part of the controversy regarding homosexuality. Unfortunately, this appears to be one of those times when mob-rule seems to trump policy. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 15:53, 5 February 2012 (UTC)''
 * indeed - and very well said. — Ched : ?  22:00, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, ASCII. You are very kind. I am quite certain that the IP addresses listed as a part of the investigation were La goutte given their editing style and history. However, I am quite concerned that a complete ban – – may not be the best solution since La goutte was generally a productive editor with the exception of Singapore-related articles as far as I am aware. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  23:46, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That was also my impression of her: that she is someone well-meaning but who acts foolishly on some occasions. I don't think the recent socking is serious enough to prevent an eventual unblock if she promises to stop the WP:POINT violations that got her blocked about a month ago. I have nothing to do with Toddst1 banking her page by the way. Based on a recent ANI controversy involving him, I have the impression Toddst1 reacts a bit prematurely sometimes. Anyway, that matter can be easily remedied after she is unblocked. I don't think that an admin blanking her page is a "complete ban". ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 02:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for help
Hello Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington, thank you for giving more support and evidence on thread which i initiated on Administrators' noticeboard. As you see, both the accounts have been blocked indefinitely and some of their user permissions had not been removed which is totally unfair. I have now requested on the thread that user rights from both accounts namely, User:La goutte de pluie and User:Pluie lite be removed as the actual person behind these accounts have been confirmed/proved of sock-puppetry as this is a fully valid reason. Again, thanks a lot for your help on this :). TheGeneralUser (talk) 08:10, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding that same issue, Sir Nicholas, what I was that it's unlikely La goutte de pluie would evade the block with her known alternate account. I did assume that the block wouldn't be evaded at all, but I stand corrected.  Amalthea  09:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
 Blue Rasberry   (talk)   13:59, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the message on my talk page but I am not a new editor...just an IP editor...I prefer IP editing....somehow I think having a "name" draws discussion away from the topics and focuses it on personlised distractions... All the best. 86.45.54.230 (talk) 18:34, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I respect your position, but when you are involved in contentious disputes it is always better to have a user name (which does not have to be personally identifiable) as it will give your commentary more weight in the eyes of those who are new to discussions. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and our editors gain a reputation and trust over time. :-) —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  18:47, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, I respectfully disagree. My reasons being those I posted above. All the best. 86.45.54.230 (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
An RM based on opinions expressed in the AfD. Hope you can chime in, as you did in the AfD! CMD (talk) 00:35, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Err ...
... Nearly headless?? How can you be Nearly Headless ??? [: )] --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks Srikanth. I did create the article but the real credit goes to Prioryman, for developing it further and nominating it for DYK. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  13:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Youreallycan
Hi Nick. I've seen you around and have only a positive impression of your editing. YRC crossed about three different lines. They are an experienced editor, and have been blocked many times before, so they know what's allowable and what isn't. We do not have a separate process for blocking vested contributors. Everybody is subject to the same standards. If YRC wants to avoid being blocked in the future, they can easily do so. Please don't intentionally or unintentionally shield them from responsibility for their actions. I've got an editor on my talk page wondering if it's time for an indef block after 15 iterations of the block cycle. My intention is to stop the problem before it gets that bad. Jehochman Talk 12:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Rename at Campaign for "santorum" neologism
Hello, since you recently participated in an RfC at Campaign for "santorum" neologism, I thought you might be interested in this proposal for renaming the article, or perhaps another of the rename proposals on the page. Best, Be— —Critical  22:08, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

South Tibet/ Arunachal Pradesh / Arunachal Pradesh dispute / South Tibet dispute
As a participant to previous discussions at the South Tibet/ Arunachal Pradesh / Arunachal Pradesh dispute / South Tibet dispute talk page, you might be interested to participate to the following poll. Thanks, --Pseudois (talk) 04:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
 * All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
 * The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 20:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Selfishness Page
Hi Nick, My apologies for anything perceived as unhelpful. For the policy, please see Template:Citation Needed, as well as WP:NOCITE. The latter entry says that "citation needed" should be pending for a "reasonable time." What qualifies as a reasonable time is up for interpretation, and depends on contextual factors such as how many people are regularly editing a page. The "selfishness" page as relatively few visitors and few contributors, and so a few months seemed like a fair window. What alternative time frame would you suggest?

Here is the definition that I had in mind from that source: 1. chiefly concerned with one's own interest, advantage, etc, esp to the total exclusion of the interests of others.

With regards to using "self-interest" as a synonym for selfishness, there is some room for debate. It seems useful, and common in regular usage, to distinguish between actions that harm oneself, actions that help oneself, and perhaps actions that are neutral to oneself (if that is possible, given opportunity costs and baseline energy expenditure). Furthermore, the same evaluation applies with regards to others. In common usage, we do not say that someone is being selfish when she donates money or time to a charity (which does not materially benefit herself), even if making the donation makes her feel good and she prefers to live in a society where people make such donations. Such broader consideration is sometimes called enlightened self-interest. We say that someone is being selfish when his choices materially benefit himself at the expense of others.

I would be happy to discuss this more, as well as to discuss the sources from the game theory page. Which of those sources do you think is inadequate, and which (if any) are good candidates for importing to this page? Jj1236 (talk) 19:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

My edits on the Narendra Modi page
Hello - I see that you have repeatedly removed two edits I made to the page. Can you please explain why, when I had provided 4 high-quality sources to support that edit? Please discuss on the Talk page of the article. Thanks. Aurorion (talk) 21:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:BLP, WP:LEAD and WP:UNDUE before making such edits on a biographical article. The lead section is not a place for speculation and allegations. Modi was also recently cleared by a committee appointed by the Supreme Court.  Suggest you take this to the talk page of the article, where this can be discussed and addressed by other editors too. I also recommend that you do not take editing biographical articles lightly and understand policies and guidelines adequately before re-adding contentious material about a living person. Thank you. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  21:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. I understand that WP:BLP edits should be done carefully, but I don't see the problem with my edit. The only statement I added was that Modi is a "controversial figure" - hardly a libellous statement. Like I mentioned on the Talk page, this was supported by 4 high-quality sources - every one of them calling Modi a "controversial" person. There are many other articles of living people where the lead section has similar statements: George W. Bush, Bal Thackeray, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Henry Kissinger, Helmuth Nyborg for example. So why is this particular edit not suitable? Thanks. Aurorion (talk) 21:32, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * "Controversial" is not the word I have an objection to, but your careless addition of "for his alleged role in the 2002 Gujarat riots". The article on George W Bush does not say that he was controversial because some portion of the media called him a war-criminal or an incompetent administrator. Such additions to the lead section of a BLP are better discussed on the talk page before being taken to article space. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  21:44, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. Even that "alleged role" as the reason for his "controversial" image was mentioned in all the sources - but if I understand correctly, your point is that it is unsuitable to be in the lead? I will remove this part and re-add the remaining part of the statement with sources. Aurorion (talk) 21:48, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Since we have already initiated a discussion on this, you should make suggestions and discuss this on the talk page before making changes to the lead section. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  21:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

WP:AN
Hi. I think may have strayed into the wrong section. pablo 15:20, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed. Moving it where it belongs. Thanks for the heads up. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  15:32, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Well by all accounts a heads-up is what you need ... maybe it'd be best to gaffer-tape it while it's in place ... pablo 15:45, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Arnold Schwarzenegger
I dispute your reversal (twice) of my mention of Schwarzenegger's son with his housekeeper (secretly) in the lead section (a non-contentious, well referenced, and well known fact). In the West in the modern era, we don't try to pretend things didn't happen (especially in encyclopedias) just because they don't look good for someone, especially a retired politician. Please see Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger and discuss further if you wish. I am ready to proceed to arbitration or other means if you do not reverse your edits. Facts707 (talk) 05:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I object to the inclusion of the content that you have added to the lead section. Please take it to the biographies of living persons' noticeboard for seeking third party opinion. — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  08:15, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Rajkumar
Pardon me, but what did you mean by saying that the "bot" has not put up the move at WP:RM. It is present in RM. Apologies for striking your comment. Thanks.  X.One   SOS  11:39, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't notice. The template didn't say that the discussion was already listed by the bot.  Thanks for the notification. —  Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  11:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Recent removal of categories
Hi Sir Nick, I removed the categories of some biography articles of some Chinese Americans since I noticed a large number of them have been already added with redundant child categories added. The Elixir Of Life (talk) 05:38, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


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