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Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
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Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

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thanks Jimmygichuru40 (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Seeking feedback for new page
Hello Sirdog, thank you for you feedback on the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:C-Net_12.0). My inspiration for creating this page was that there was next to nothing on the internet available about this software that I and many others remember so fondly. Therefore, I was not able to find many references that refer to this topic directly. I did however find a lot of sources that I thought would be sufficient.

As part of my creation process I looked at this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-Net_DS2. DS2 is another C-Net version from the same era. However, that Wikipedia page no citations or sources (other than names of people) whatsoever. So looking at my page, where I found several and cited them properly (I thought), I expected to be in much better shape than the page on DS-2.

Do you have any advice for me? Should I remove the sources and only leave the official manual? Keep in mind that this was from 1987 so not a lot of out there in the public space. Which is why I wanted this page. Thanks for your time and for any advice you could give me. Jimmyzeet (talk) 15:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * — Sirdog (talk) 20:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reaching out, . Wikipedia's expectations around content can be confusing. I will say that your draft is objectively in a better state than C-Net DS2, if by no other reason than it cites sources. Because Wikipedia is mostly edited by volunteers, it is possible to find examples of pages that are not at all in line with content norms but still don't have interested editors to improve them. A page citing no sources is unacceptable and could be deleted on that basis unless some are found.
 * While I sympathize with the fact C-Net 12.0 is quite old and thus sourcing may be hard to find, as I have a similar problem with writing about the production of the film Lord of War, ultimately if adequate sourcing cannot be located than the topic is unsuitable for an article on Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not desire to be a place for things to be remembered, for lack of a better term, that have been forgotten (again, lack of a better term). It aims to have encyclopedic articles about topics that have significant coverage by multiple independent and reliable sources, just like print encyclopedias would do.
 * My advice would be to try and find more sourcing, and it's worth noting that offline sourcing, such as books which may have referred to this software, are valid and may be worthwhile to look for given this topic's age. If you are ultimately unsuccessful, I'd advise choosing a different topic to write about, or perhaps do other things for Wikipedia until you get a better grasp of possible article topics which are likely to survive scrutiny.
 * In relation to citing "properly", the page I linked to in my AFC comment along with the Visual Editor should make that mostly a breeze. If you have any specific questions after reading Help:Referencing for beginners, feel free to make use of the resources I alluded to in my AFC comment. — Sirdog (talk) 03:49, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcoming comment
I appreciated it, but as I posted on the NPP discussion page just now, it was not deserved. I have very low technical skills, and stay away from the alphabet soup drama boards. I just write articles that interest me. I never even knew that I was supposed to put articles in a review queue; I just created them, and then was surprised when I got notices of reviews. Had no idea where that was coming from or why.

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that I don’t know a lot about Wiki-processes. I wanted to help, and thought NPP might be it, but that chart just turned me right off. Far too dense and bloated; just made me want to go back to my little corner and work on content.

i am concerned that “bloat” and increasing emphasis on tech tools (eg citation templates) is an entry block for Wikipedia. That chart just confirmed my concern.

Best wishes, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * , I appreciate you reaching out. I completely understand where you are coming from; everyone contributes to the encyclopedia differently. I suppose it was presumptuous of me to make the comment alluded to, as I take for granted my knowledge of things like deletion processes or how to report copyright, as most of what I see from experienced editors in the places I lurk know those things and I did take a course that was dedicated to teaching me those things. I can't say that I agree with all of your feedback at the NPP page, but I can agree that the learning curve from "just started editing" to "experienced editor" is steep and is probably concerning in an age of decreasing attention spans. Happy editing! — Sirdog (talk) 03:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I didn’t want to just be a bomb-thrower, so thought it important to respond to hey-man-I’m-Josh’s question. Those were my top-of-my-head reactions. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 05:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Zu-brak (13:16, 14 April 2024)
Hi --Zu-brak (talk) 13:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Feel free to stop by again if you have any questions! — Sirdog (talk) 21:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, ! Your kind words are deeply appreciated. — Sirdog (talk) 05:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * – DreamRimmer (talk) 01:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from ChrissieEWebb (05:26, 18 April 2024)
Hi, I am trying to create an article on Australian Broadcaster, Marius Webb, the first staff elected member of the ABC and founder of Triple J. I need to add quite a bit to the article but before I do I was hoping you can let me know if I am going in the right direction. Triple J will be celebrating 50 years on Air and Marius will be interviewed quite extensively at that time. I would like to have it up and with various citations in place. --ChrissieEWebb (talk) 05:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia,, and sorry for my tardy reply! Help:Your first article is a good place to start in figuring out whether you are going in the right direction. The most important thing is going to be demonstrating that Marius Webb meets our notability policy, which states they must have multiple independent and reliable sources which provide them significant coverage. Editors tend to weigh interviews very low on meeting this bar, as depending on the quality of the interview it tends to simply be the subject speaking about themselves which is not independent. I would be cautious if you are planning to rely on those interviews to help prove Marius deserves an article.
 * I'd also advise making use of the Articles for Creation process when you ultimately think the article is ready for publishing. This ensures an experienced editors reviews it and eithers publishes it if it's ready or "declines" it (unless rejected you can re-submit as many times as you like if declined) and provides feedback on what went wrong.
 * The Teahouse is also a good resource for asking questions, aside from myself.
 * Happy editing! — Sirdog (talk) 05:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Sirdog,
 * Thanks so very much. A great help. Also I fully understand that Marius wont be interviewed because of the Wiki article, it’s more to see that the facts are in the right place when outside sources seek them. All the best
 * Christine ChrissieEWebb (talk) 06:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Steven Fernandez1 (15:11, 26 April 2024)
Hello. Do you have tips for finding references for articles? Also any sources for basic grammar and what not, i could just google but figured i would ask --Steven Fernandez1 (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia, ! For basic grammar, the Manual of Style by it's nature includes a lot of instruction on the topic to help editors copy-edit articles. It's a very large manual, encompassing norms that have developed for well over a decade. Most editors that aren't fixated on making articles the highest quality possible tend to just follow the simplified version and then refer to particular pages when they have a specific question. You can also visit the Guild of Copy Editors, a large and active group of editors that dedicate themselves to copy-editing. They maintain other resources on the topic, and I'm sure you can always ask on their talk page if you have a specific question you can't find an answer for.
 * In terms of finding sources, my go-to is to use Google News, which filters search results to news reporting sites. A good resource to read up on making good searches on search engines is . Once you become an extended-confirmed editor you'll automatically gain access to The Wikipedia Library, which is an amalgamation of high-quality source aggregators that the Wikimedia Foundation pays for and maintains for editors to use when doing article research.
 * I hope this helps! — Sirdog (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Thanks Sirdog! Steven Fernandez1 (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from an anon. user
Hi. Whoever is operating this account, is this the same user managing this account?102.156.10.192 (talk) 10:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Greetings! No, I am not the operator of . — Sirdog (talk) 11:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Requests for permissions
@Sir how to apply? Zu-brak (talk) 04:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The page you have linked to is where editors request various types of permissions from administrators to help them edit in particular ways. Is there a specific permission you are interested in? — Sirdog (talk) 05:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have to request a handle, can you guide me how to do it? Zu-brak (talk) 05:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * And on which handle should I apply? Zu-brak (talk) 05:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * My understanding of a "handle" is a username. If you desire to change your username, see Changing username. — Sirdog (talk) 05:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Not a username, but a badge. Zu-brak (talk) 05:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the term "badge" is not adding much clarity as to what you are attempting to accomplish. If you refer to any of the bolded text at, you would click the button that says "view requests" to the right of the relevant badge/permission. Near the top of the next page will be a blurb describing the criteria you need to meet for an administrator to consider your account for the permission/"badge". — Sirdog (talk) 06:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from 5 Fires (23:56, 29 April 2024)
Im an artist and singer, i want to add my bio to wikipedia how do i do this? --5 Fires (talk) 23:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia, . Understand that Wikipedia aims to be a high quality encyclopedia. To achieve this goal, articles on Wikipedia which include biographies about people who are alive  must meet our notability standards. Put simply, we need multiple independent (meaning the source is not endorsed or affiliated with you) and reliable (meaning the source has a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, such as NPR) sources which provide you significant coverage (meaning there is commentary about you specifically that exceeds a trivial mention) for you to be eligible for an article. Note that it is discouraged that you write about yourself, as that is a de facto conflict of interest, which Wikipedia stands pretty firmly against due to our policy of writing material from a neutral point of view. It's also worth noting that, due to our desire to write content from a neutral point of view, it isn't necessarily a good thing for you to have an article about yourself.
 * Presuming you wish to pursue this endeavor, which I caution with compassion  will be difficult and most likely frustrating, you can create a draft biography and then submit it through Articles for Creation. Said process is where experienced and neutral editors review your draft and determine if it's suitable for publishing. You can also submit a request for someone to create an article about you at Requested articles.
 * Feel free to stop by again if you have further questions. — Sirdog (talk) 00:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Tomartacus (10:13, 30 April 2024)
Hi Sirdog,

I thought i have crafted a homepage, but on publishing everything seems to have disappeared without trace. I presume this is my fat fingers and it is not in some limbo somewhere waiting for authorisation.

Look forward to hearing from you.

John --Tomartacus (talk) 10:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You appear to have been blocked, . I will be happy to assist you with any questions you should have if or when you are unblocked. — Sirdog (talk) 13:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Elenaiki (13:26, 2 May 2024)
Just saying hello and thank you for the welcome! --Elenaiki (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * — Sirdog (talk) 13:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
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Kafirs add unsourced captions to Islamic art and create discord

 * Copied from User talk:খাত্তাব হাসান

The essay to which Future Perfect at Sunrise refers was created by Future Perfect at Sunrise himself. . Previously de-sysopped, his admin tools were inexplicably restored and the parade of complaints against him at ANI and ArbCom resumed. In a gross violation of WP:INVOLVED he protected Islamic calendar indefinitely to thwart moves to provide an accurate caption to the picture there after a petition to correct it garnered 400,000 signatures. Scholars have confirmed that the picture, apparently of Ali preaching to the Ahl al-Bayt inside a mosque, has no relevance to the pilgrimage, which is an outdoor event. Here is a suggested correction:




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Iggy Azalea
Hi Sirdog, I saw that you once answered a question on the Iggy Azalea page and was wondering can you please change the genre from pop-rap as it was referring to the genre itself and not her music and change it to Hip hop   as those sources most definitely call her a hip hop artist? Many thanks and have a nice day. Skalette (talk) 04:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reaching out to me,, and for taking the time to request edits to improve the encyclopedia. You will probably have a better chance of having this actioned by making an edit request (write "Iggy Azalea" in the box that appears when you click the link). This way editors which may be more in-tune with musical artists, and have more interest in their articles, will have the opportunity to see and evaluate your request. — Sirdog (talk) 02:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * A lot of the other users, are hell bent on restoring it to a false edit and seeing how you're a neutral third party I thought you'd be the better one to do it if at all possible Please? Many thanks. Skalette (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , if you believe this to be the case I'd advise looking into dispute resolution methods to try and resolve the situation. I do not believe I am best suited to assist you as I am not that interested in Iggy Azalea or her music. My involvement on the page was only to close a lot of edit requests which were malformed. I wish you the best! — Sirdog (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Scam warning
How does that happen? 137.22.183.13 (talk) 10:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * What typically happens is a person or organization will offer someone who is interested in having a Wikipedia article the service of "guaranteeing", in some fashion, that their page will go live and not get taken down. They may also "guarantee" certain outcomes, such as the article speaking favorably or not including details the victim would not want public. They will offer this service for a price. I'm not too familiar with what the "going rates" for articles are nowadays, as I've yet to run into a victim of this scam personally. Scammers will tend to go to exhaustive lengths to "prove" their legitimacy, or may even feign being good faith editors in an attempt to circumvent scrutiny and actually make good on their "guarantees" (to have a positive case study to further convince others of their scam). Scammers tend to know that these attempts will fail, even if it takes a bit of time to catch 'em, which makes them scam artists.
 * More information is available at Articles for creation/Scam warning. See the article Operation Orangemoody for details on a very large-scale scam that was conducted against the English Wikipedia back in 2015. — Sirdog (talk) 02:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Fragrancelover (20:41, 17 May 2024)
hi sirdog! I am having a lot of issues editing a page that currently has inaccuracies. All of the copy that I have submitted for edits has footnotes and is objective. Can you please assist? --Fragrancelover (talk) 20:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mags74h (14:15, 18 May 2024)
Hi! I wanna upload my article about Ziggis Coffee. Its in the sandbox. Thank you --Mags74h (talk) 14:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There is actually zero content in your sandbox? Theroadislong (talk) 17:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Ned Retherbrick (03:08, 20 June 2024)
I tried to add an edit to Mobile accessories that got declined. As it is consumer items, most of the sources are going to be promotion-related. I was going to add that ND filters exist for phones. I added a citation to https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1765213-REG/freewell_fw_gx_nd_nd_filter_kit_for.html intending it as a product example. I was not intending to promote the product, thogh I do see how it could be interpreted and intended that way. What sources would you reccemmend as replacements? Also, how much should I debate/challenge other's edits? I want to contribute how I can. And I also want to minimize the unintentional harm any of my actions cause. --Ned Retherbrick (talk) 03:08, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Ned, welcome to Wikipedia! A good source for this might be something like like an article from a news or scholarly source.  You could try asking over at the reference desk.  Check out our page on sources for more information.  Jake Wartenberg (talk) 16:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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