User talk:Sitheroo

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Awag
Hi. Regarding the article on awag that is up for deletion, please read this article: sockpuppet. Please note that sockpuppets or meatpuppets will have their "votes" discounted by the closing admin. Also, users who have a long edit history with Wikipedia have a more influential opinion than users who are newly registered. This is not a vote, it is a consensus, so it is pointless recruiting people or creating multiple accounts in order to "stuff the ballot box". There IS no ballot. The article will be deleted by CONSENSUS of opinion, and the opinions of new users, especially when they don't refer to existing policy or guidelines, is likely to be discounted. Zunaid 13:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I've not asked anyone to do anything. We decided to try adn get an entry on wikipedia, and now others who use the site are contributing to the discussion, albeit not always helpfully. How long does discussion last? Sitheroo 13:13, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Exactly what you just said now is the problem: "We've been trying to get an entry onto Wikipedia". Wikipedia is not a forum or webhost, you cannot invent something in order to get it on here (I'm not saying you've just invented that term, it's just an argument used by some people who voted delete). It is an encyclopedia. Only entries which are verifiable and cite proper sources are kept, the rest are deleted. That is not to say things are just deleted out of hand, if they can be cleaned up to conform to the required standards then by all means they are kept. To answer your secod question, if there are reasonable arguments on both sides then the discussion will be a few days, but it can be closed early if there is a clear consensus to keep or delete. Also note that a very dim view is taken of the kind of thing that is going on at the current debate. Nonsensical spewing of opinions generally do not help the case at all, and in fact many Wikipedians will vote delete based on sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry alone, and an admin might decide to close the debate early based on how many delete votes are garnered in this case. Zunaid 13:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Um hello? "Exactly what you just said now is the problem: "We've been trying " - there wasn't an entry, we put one on and now it has to go through your rigorous 'we know more about stuff than you do, go away newbies' selection procedure. - hence the word 'trying' - We didn't sit around and think 'what word can we make up to put on there for laughs and stuff'. Awag has been in the English language for 6 years now and is used by literally 1000s of people. And frankly I'm hurt that you think I'm making all these people up. I'm not and they are no more sockpuppets than you are of Savidan etc. Anyhoo. Let's get the discussion run properly.Sitheroo 13:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, when it comes to newly created articles by new users, it almost always comes down to the newbies not knowing the relevant policies and guidelines. Don't take it the wrong way, it's impossible to know all the rules, you learn as you go along. First and foremost though, it is important to maintain the integrity of the encyclopedia, which means cleaning up articles to bring them up to scratch, or otherwise deleting articles that can't be, or that have no "encyclopedic" (a subjective measure) value. I hope you first experience of Wikipedia hasn't put you off though. Remember it is a wiki, everyone's good faith contributions are valued as long as it "improves the standard" (another subjective measure) of the encyclopedia. To start you off with some helpful shortcuts I've included a welcome message above with some helpful links to get started. Zunaid 14:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Please stop editing the page Articles for deletion/Awag, as mentioned above. haz (user talk) 09:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to User talk:Haza-w. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. haz (user talk) 10:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello. Why did you tell me I couldn't edit my own post. Which I only edited as I originally wrote it when I wasn't logged in and then logged in and tidied it up? It is not vandalism, it's telling you to shut up and stop interfering.

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Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy: '''There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors. Do not make them.' Comment on content'', not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that you may be blocked for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thanks, -Colin Kimbrell 18:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)