User talk:Sitting on a cornflake

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A page you started (Bruxy Cavey) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating Bruxy Cavey, Sitting on a cornflake!

Wikipedia editor Walter Görlitz just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

"There are still some WP:BLP issues, such as an unreferenced birth date, names of parents and the birth information of his siblings, but the article is otherwise good."

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Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Sitting on a cornflake. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about in the article Bruxy Cavey, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. ''All of your edits within your first three days of editing have been related to a single subject: Bruxy Cavey. While the article now meets Wikipedia criteria for inclusion, it would be good to clear-up any association you have with the subject.'' Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:51, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

German translation
First of all, welcome to Wikipedia!

Regarding translation: on the one hand, thanks for creating the article Senta Trömel-Plötz. On the other hand, Wikipedia consensus is that an uncorrected machine translation is worse than nothing: after all, anybody can go to Google translate and generate a translation of the German article, possibly based on an updated version of the original German article, and with a newer, better, version of Google translate. So, publishing a machine translation on English Wikipedia, actually helps nobody. And sometimes, like in this case, when the translation is poor and includes English translations which say the exact opposite of what the original says, it can violate Wikipedia policies and guidelines, such as WP:Verifiability and WP:BLP.

I see two possibilities here, about your translation: In case #1: thanks, and I understand. But in that case, please don't publish the article in main space when it is machine-translated. Instead, develop your article in WP:DRAFTSPACE, creating it as Draft:Senta Trömel-Plötz, and updating it there at your leisure. When it's ready, and the translation meets standards, just WP:MOVE it to mainspace as "Senta Trömel-Plötz". Also: please read WP:TFOLWP for important information about required attribution for translated articles or portions of articles.
 * 1) You have a good level of German, and are starting out with a machine-translated version just to get something out there quickly, with the intention of correcting the translation later in subsequent edits, or letting someone else do it.
 * 2) You don't have a good enough level of German, to read and understand the original article in German.

In case #2: thanks for your good faith intention to improve the encyclopedia with needed articles. However, this can hurt more than it helps, especially if no one spots your article, and it carries incorrect assertions, apparently sourced, but actually false, due to a misfire in automatic translation. Luckily, I spotted this article due to a link from a watchlisted article, and I've been fixing the mistranslations. However, if you don't read German well enough to understand what the original is saying, please do not do any more translations from German (or other languages you don't know sufficiently).

That doesn't mean you should give up on translations entirely, even if you don't speak the language. Hang out at WP:PNT/WT:PNT and see if you can help there. Another thing you can do, is find someone who translates German (or whatever language your source article is in), and then collaborate with them by creating the "scaffolding" for a new article (create the article in Draft space, with the original structure, the section headers, the "See also" and categories, images, etc.) but leaving out all the actual text of the article (or, pasting in the original source language). Then, once the scaffolding is all done, hand it off to the translator-editor, to do the actual content translation. But please hold off on publishing automatic translations as a regular, mainspace article. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)