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February 2008
Hi, the recent edit you made to American Football League has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. Alexfusco5 21:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe you were hasty with this - that edit was the result of an ongoing conversation [|here]. We had agreed to split the section off into four separate articles, and a previous editor left these instructions in the article: Please keep this section until all four articles are created; then remove.  Which I did.  So thank you for your diligence, but I believe your reversion was unwarranted.  I did provide an edit summary: removing prior leagues since all four articles have been created - please see Talk Page, which I was hoping would refer people to the existing conversation and explain the reason for the edit.


 * I won't change it back myself as I don't want the perception of an edit war, but one of the article's other editors might. Just wanted you to know.  SixFourThree (talk) 21:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Re:AFL
My bad I misclicked because the next and revert buttons are next to each other, Alexfusco5 21:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. I'm going to make the edit again.  Thanks!  SixFourThree (talk) 19:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Red Sox logo
The new one you uploaded looks much nicer than the 100-year-old one. :-)   jj137   (talk)  19:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Glad you like it - I traced it from a picture of Cy Young's jersey in Cooperstown. SixFourThree (talk) 19:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree


 * Hello there. Sorry to trouble you, but I was the one who created the cap insignia images for all the baseball teams.  I'd do it myself, but I don't know how to work SVG's.  Could you cut down the image for the Boston insignia?  The more negative space around the logo, the smaller it becomes when the entire image is scaled down for the infobox.  Cutting down on this makes the logo large as possible.  Usually, I leave a pixel between the ends of the logo (in this case the top and bottom) and the edge of the drawing, which should be adequate here.  Very nice job, though.  Thank you.--The Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 03:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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 * And I am reverting it back, as it is in the reference. You linked to the last page, which doesn't mention the "Flamingos" moniker, and it's not readily apparent that there are more pages to the article. When I revert it back, I'll fix the link so that it points to the first page. My apologies.  Horologium  (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks - didn't realize that I had screwed up the link. SixFourThree (talk) 15:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Fashion jersey?
Please show me the EXACT link that says the official alternate jersey is a "fashion" jersey. Nowhere is the word "fashion" listed on the offical Rams website. However, the word "alternate" is listed for the gold jersey on the OFFICIAL website and therefore....that is an OFFICIAL alternate jersey. Please provide proof otherwise with the word "fashion" being mentioned. If you cannot....then please leave the picture alone. Thank you. JohnnySeoul (talk) 19:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you look at their online store again, you'll notice that the black jerseys are listed as "REPLICAS." The "AUTHENTICS" page only shows the red and white.  It's a fashion jersey.  SixFourThree (talk) 19:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree


 * Again, you fail to provide 100% proof that this is a "fashion" jersey. The word "fashion" is only used by you and NOT the OFFICIAL website. Would you rather I call if the "Official replica alternate uniform"?....LMAO. Leave it alone. Thank you. JohnnySeoul (talk) 19:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Cute, but you're forgetting that the initial assertion was yours - you are the one who must provide proof that it is an actual on-field jersey (on the team's official style sheet) and not just a fashion replica. That's why the "citation needed" tag was applied, to allow somebody an opportunity to support the claim.  SixFourThree (talk) 19:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

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 * Sorry, that should have been Image:NewYorkYankees caplogo.svg, as it conveys no more info than Image:ALE-Uniform-NYY.PNG Fasach Nua (talk) 14:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Thank you - have done. SixFourThree (talk) 16:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree
 * I'm not 100% sure so we'll just leave it be. I put that note there to hopefully reduce any confusion. -Nv8200p talk 17:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Yankees Jersey logo
Hi there, I noticed your question on BJ's talkpage and thought I'd try to help. The image is in the public domain in the United States because it was first published prior to January 1, 1923. The Yankees can claim trademark, but they have no legal copyright over the logo anymore. If you have any more questions to clear this up feel free to drop by my talkpage. §hep  •   ¡Talk to me!  03:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think you're right that the jersey logo is in the public domain. A version of their interlocking "N" and "Y" was in use before 1923, but not the current version.  It has been adapted and changed over the years, and the current version dates from the 1960s.  If they don't own that because it bears resemblance to the original one, then they don't own the cap logo or print logo either (from the 1970s and 1960s, respectively), as they bear equal resemblance to the 1909 logo.   That seems very unlikely to me.  Sounds like we need a lawyer to weigh in before making such a pronouncement.  SixFourThree (talk) 13:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree
 * Can you prove that the image in question was redrawn in the 60s? If not we have to go by the word of the uploader.  Are there difference between the 20s and 60s logo so we can tell what version it is?  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  21:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Trademark does not = Copyright. You can bring it to Possibly unfree images if you want.  PS the link you gave doesn't work.  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  19:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Have you read Logos? §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  19:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

And the answer is yes a trademarked logo can be PD. Take the Cocacola logo for example. §hep  •   ¡Talk to me!  20:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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This entry by User:Blueboy96 from June 30, 2007, is the source of the claim that "two SABR researchers" have debunked the movable fence story. I would guess that it's in one of the SABR publications, but in any case, you're right that a more specific citation is needed. I have reported this issue on his talk page. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 19:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

American League establishment dates
I think we should stick with 1901. That's the year the league became a major. Maybe you could take this to WP:Baseball and get some opinions. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 17:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * And not necessarily because we say so, but because I think you'll find that the typical "original eight" A.L. club defines itself as having been established in 1901, i.e. established as a major league club. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 18:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That does seem to be common. The Red Sox page seems flawed either way - it claims the Sox were formed in Buffalo in 1901 - either it was formed in 1901 as the Boston representative in the American League, or it was formed in Buffalo as a Western League club in 1899.  SixFourThree (talk) 19:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree
 * I'm not sure where the Buffalo nonsense is coming from. But even if someone thinks that the Red Sox transferred from Buffalo, they weren't founded in Buffalo in 1901. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 19:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

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To be honest, I had no real basis on this change. The reason I made the socks blue was because I thought that the uniforms for the 80's version this is based on had blue socks (which I always found odd). Upon further inspection, though, it seems that this is just a result of the low quality video I've seen on-line. All of these images are preliminary until we get further information on them. There's little to work with so far for a lot of them. If there is a source that does portray them as wearing blue socks, then perhaps we should wait until there's actual images to work with. Hopefully we will see evidence for this and all the uniforms changes when Spring Training starts in a few days. The Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 05:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The Red Sox have had some blue in their stockings at various times in their history. As shown in the 1991 Okkonen book, they wore red stockings topped with alternating blue and white stripes, starting in 1936 and continuing through 1978. The years since then up to the book's publication date, shows red stockings. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 08:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right that they've worn them in the past, but I was curious as to the source of the notion that they will be doing so again this season. As Silent Wind said, this should be cleared up soon enough, but it could be a cautionary tale about treating the video games as a serious source.  As a side note, I'd kinda like them to wear blue socks on the road, if only so a Boston-Chicago game at Comiskey would be a total misnomer.  SixFourThree (talk) 14:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)SixFourThree
 * Holy crap! I seriously thought that this was going to be debunked, especially since I was mistaken about the 86 team wearing blue socks with their away grays.  Today is the first day they're wearing their away uniforms, playing a game in Anaheim as we speak (or, rather, as I type), and, holy crap, they're wearing blue socks!  The socks that go with the road uniform, or at least the blue alternate, are indeed navy.  I guess that clears that up.  We can find out about the standard road gray probably tomorrow.--The Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 04:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

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Brewers
Hi. I disagree with your change regarding the Brewers category. Merely changing it to the year promotes confusion that the Brewers were a major league club during that time periot, as that is the same format used for [Category:Milwaukee Brewers (1901) players] and [Category:Washington Senators (1961-1971) players], for example. The date range does not address the issue that you brought up, that there were more than one Brewers minor league clubs. The original title, [Category:Milwaukee Brewers (minor league) players], makes this distinction. I understand that you may disagree, but I will revert the pages back to the original cat. Thanks. - Masonpatriot (talk) 18:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I just don't see the confusion. The "Milwaukee Brewers (minor league)" title goes along with the format used by other categories for team names that exist or existed in both the majors and minors, such as the Buffalo Bisons, Baltimore Orioles, San Diego Padres, Los Angeles Angels and Lousiville Colonels.  Since those categories abide by that format, I see no reason for the Brewers to do any differently.  The Bisons category, for example, I think has been around the longest, and encapsulates the existence of multiple "Bisons" minor league franchises.  Again, I don't how the Brewers are any different from these teams, so I really don't see how a compromise improves the situation when a standard is already in place.  Thanks. - Masonpatriot (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Those are but two of the teams that I listed. I know that the Buffalo Bisons has more than one minor league "franchise" that used that name, yet editors have placed players from all era who played for the Bisons in the same category with no issues.  Both Mack and Mathews played for the minor league Milwaukee Brewers, so I have no issue with them being in the same cat.  Minor league teams starting up, folding and reappearing in different leagues (or their original leagues folded) was a common situation in the first half of the 20th century.  Like I said, I don't see the uniqueness of the Brewers situation, enough so that they should have a separate format.  I think one minor league category is sufficient (as opposed to a littany of Brewers cats from different defunct leagues), especially since the cat links to the article, which explains the history in more detail.  Just my thoughts, if you want more input, I suggest throwing the question out to WP:Baseball... perhaps some of the other editors will think differently from me.  Thanks. - Masonpatriot (talk) 16:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the feedback; I'll try to do just that! SixFourThree (talk) 14:12, 22 March 2017 (UTC)SixFourThree
 * As you'll see when you look at these files, they've now been tagged with Wrong license by a bot. This is because of the problem I explained above. You probably should take steps to fix this as soon as you can. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:40, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thanks - you did, and I blew it. I can't seem to use the transfer tools, so I manually uploaded it to the Commons.  Thanks for the reminder!  SixFourThree (talk) 18:57, 21 November 2017 (UTC)SixFourThree
 * You did not necessarily need to move the files yourself. You could've tagged them for a move and eventually someone would've gotten to them. HOwever, if you reuploaded the files to Commons, then please read WP:F8. The local files can most likely be deleted since they are no needed; moreover, if the file names for both are identical, the software running Wikipedia will always use the local file wherever the file name is linked or used. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Except that that same press release contains the subheadline "Defensive midfielder named captain of Cosmos B in the NPSL". And when the Cosmos announced that they had signed Carlos Mendez to coach, the press release was literally titled "CARLOS MENDES NAMED HEAD COACH OF NEW YORK COSMOS B" Not to mention that the club has issued other press releases listing the NPSL club as "Cosmos B", such as this press release announcing "COSMOS B TRYOUTS CONFIRMED" So no, the Cosmos first team is not playing in the NPSL this season.  The club itself is making it quite clear that the team playing these is and remains Cosmos B.  SixFourThree (talk) 15:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)SixFourThree

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Hello!

I removed an odd occurance of your username after the timestamp in your signature. I looked at your Special:Contribs/SixFourThree and noticed that this is the case for every signature of yours. How come? Is this by choice?Jonteemil (talk) 22:18, 18 August 2020 (UTC)


 * No idea. I do the four tildes and this is what I get.  SixFourThree (talk) 17:33, 19 August 2020 (UTC)SixFourThree


 * Hmm, that's weird. You must have changed something once and forgot about it.Jonteemil (talk) 19:48, 20 August 2020 (UTC)


 * If I did, it was totally accidental. I'm not aware that there are even options for this sort of thing, much less how to change them.  Thanks!  SixFourThree (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2020 (UTC)SixFourThree

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Hello I find you are contributions wikipedia commons by adding football kits.can you share which application you are using for making these football kit images. Thanks WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 14:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi! I use Photoshop, adapting previous graphics using the Pencil Tool mostly.  18:21, 28 October 2020 (UTC)SixFourThree

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