User talk:Sjacksonn01

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Please stop moving the draft
Please stop moving the draft back to mainspace. That was the result of the deletion discussion. If you continue, the article will be nominated for deletion again, and this time it will probably be deleted. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 15:24, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Please stop moving this article back to draft as this is a NEW article and has NO grounds for deletion. All potential previous concerns have been edited and addressed by multiple users. This article is now protected per Wikipedia redirect protection WP:REDIRECTPROTECTION / WP:RPROTECTION 1.There is no reason for it to be edited 2.It is an obvious vandalism target 3.It redirects and/or refers to a very controversial topic 4.Any combination of the above. If you continue, you will be reported to an administrator for excessive abuse and vandalism. WP:RAA James Dobson (talk) 15:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)


 * You don't have the ability to protect any article as you are not an administrator. I have moved it back to the draft. I have also move protected the draft so you can't move it again and salted the article name so it cant be recreated. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:06, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * In response to your email. First thing is that your account is not blocked. As to your first amendment rights they don't apply here as Wikipedia is a private web site. See Free speech. By the way nobody is trying to discredit your work or your sources. Life isn't fair, never has been and never will, get over it. I'm not trying to "sensor" (as you put it) anything. I suggest that you stop throwing around words like "legal" and "unlawful" as some editors may see that as a legal threat. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

In fact you are trying to sensor as you have no grounds or reason to have deleted this article. This is political bias. You and all the parties involved have already been formally reported to Wikipedia's counsel and administration as they will take over from here. You should be very careful as to whose articles you bias-ly delete, you could have caused Wikipedia a world of legal trouble and that would not be kosher considering you like to play God through this platform. Good day.James Dobson (talk) 17:09, 15 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The word is censor not sensor. Given that I have no idea of the persons political stance, nor do I live in the US, I'm not sure how it is political bias. Anyway report away. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 17:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for admitting that you DO NOT live in the United States, which further validates your claim that you DO NOT know who Chairman Jackson is, which further stipulates that you DO NOT have the right to block an article about someone who you admittingly have never heard of because you don't live in the United States. I want you to keep talking, as the administrators of Wikimedia / Wikipedia are reviewing my entire account as we speak and will see this antagonistic behavior! James Dobson (talk) 17:54, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your comments. The thread is Is this a legal threat. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 18:24, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Username
Hi, you have stated that are you are not Sean P. Jackson [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sjacksonn01&diff=854976788&oldid=854975433]. In that case, can I suggest you ask for a username rename? Given your editing of the article and your username, plenty of people are likely to assume you are. Note that your signature will not be seen when someone is simply checking page histories for example. See also WP:REALNAME. Take a read of WP:UNC if you want to rename your account. Note that although some of the help pages may suggest you simply create a new account, this is not an acceptable course of action as long as this account is blocked. You will need to successfully apply for an unblock of this account first. Nil Einne (talk) 19:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

How do you apply for an unblock? I have applied for a username change however it was not granted because of the account being blocked. James Dobson (talk) 22:00, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I need to amplify what Nil Einne said. You, as a user, have been blocked for making legal threats; it's not just this account that's blocked. Until those threads are withdrawn, you as a person are blocked. You may not just create a new account; that account would also be subject to the same block. —C.Fred (talk) 20:09, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

No "legal threats were made. I did make it a point to state that I would report the abusive behavior against me and my account to administration. I can't go back and delete something that does not exist! This has been a HORRIBLE experience since I've begun all due to bullies who are savvy in using this program. James Dobson (talk) 22:00, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Let me quote some statements you made:
 * "You and all the parties involved have already been formally reported to Wikipedia's counsel and administration as they will take over from here. You should be very careful as to whose articles you bias-ly delete, you could have caused Wikipedia a world of legal trouble..."
 * "The harassment that I have endured while on this program has led me to draft a press release and disseminate to the media as these users have continued to attack my hard work in bringing this notable gentleman to Wikipedia's platform."
 * And now let me quote WP:No legal threats: "A legal threat, in this context, is a threat to engage in an external (real life) legal or other governmental process that would target other editors." By mentioning WMF counsel and "a world of legal trouble", your first statement was clearly interpreted as to have a chilling effect on discussion: to try to get other editors to cease further actions based on a possible consequence. Likewise, involving the media also involves an outside party. This isn't truly a legal threat, but it still has the same chilling effect.
 * So, to get your account unblocked in the light of those statements, you'd need to make some declarations:
 * That you are not now pursuing legal action against Wikipedia, WMF, or any of its editors;
 * That you are not in contact with WMF legal counsel or having your legal counsel contact WMF's counsel to seek an off-Wikipedia remedy for any on-Wikipedia conduct; and
 * Either that you have not made any statement to the press about conduct on Wikipedia or that you have withdrawn such statement.
 * Making those three statements would, in my opinion, satisfy the requirement that there be no outstanding legal threats and allow an unblock to proceed. —C.Fred (talk) 22:39, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Until you understand this, you will not be allowed to edit. Period. "Wikipedia" will do nothing more until YOU fix your behavior. --Tarage (talk) 22:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll second everything and others have said. Yours, "Wikipedia". byteflush Talk 23:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I am not now pursuing legal action against Wikipedia, WMF, or any of its editors; I am not in contact with WMF legal counsel or having your legal counsel contact WMF's counsel to seek an off-Wikipedia remedy for any on-Wikipedia conduct; and Either that you have not made any statement to the press about conduct on Wikipedia or that you have withdrawn such statement.James Dobson (talk) 23:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Now that I have made such declarations how Do I go about having my article unlocked so that I can move it from the draft section? James Dobson (talk) 23:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Good, but let's take it one step at a time. Since you were blocked for WP:NLT, your withdrawal is probably enough. You should, however, read WP:GAB, but - short version - use the following template on this page:
 * Of course, instead of Your reason here, copy what you just said above (only the first message, where you retract the legal threat). An administrator will then review your unblock request. After you're unblocked for legal threats, you may ask for another username, and eventually talk about the content dispute (that is, creating a new article on Wikipedia). byteflush Talk 00:07, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * There are two separate issues here. The article on Jackson is protected against moves because of your repeated attempts to move it into the main article space. You should not attempt to move it, period. If you think you have improved it enough that it's ready for the main encyclopedia, then you can submit it for review by experienced editors. If they agree, then they will move it to main space.
 * However, you can't make any improvements to the draft while you are blocked. Once your account is unblocked, then you can request a change of username and get back to working on the draft. —C.Fred (talk) 15:15, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * However, you can't make any improvements to the draft while you are blocked. Once your account is unblocked, then you can request a change of username and get back to working on the draft. —C.Fred (talk) 15:15, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

[The user's original unblock request was here; it has been moved to the subsection below.]

Thank you so very much Byteflush for helping me through this process. I'm VERY new to ALL of this and haven't the slightest idea of what and how to do it. Your help is sincerely appreciated. James Dobson (talk) 14:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, this would have been easier for you if you hadn't deleted the instructions given to you on how to request an unblock. —C.Fred (talk) 15:18, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Fred thank you for your assistance as well. If you can please instruct me on how to properly go about submitting my article for review once I have my username changed I would appreciate it. Please remember that I am NEW to all of this and this platform can a bit intimidating if you haven't had a "crash course" lol. I want to do things properly according to your rules. I just need guidance.James Dobson (talk) 16:27, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * James, I added a template to the bottom of the article. It has a set of resources that can help (click the "show" button to the right of "How to improve your article") and has a "Submit your draft for review!" button as well. —C.Fred (talk) 16:33, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Fred, again, THANK YOU! I will begin editing right away. Last request, can you please block user: MShabazz from repeatedly altering, blocking or changing my article or repeatedly attempting to disparage the subject of my article or keep me from publishing this article. If you look back over this entire process, you'll see this user has continuously made attempts to prevent this article from being published and more recently has just added information to the article that is NOT of relevance per the dismissal of contents within the publishing the user is citing as a reference. It's apparent that this user is doing all possible to discredit my articles point of topic. I would appreciate your assistance in this matter. James Dobson (talk) 17:04, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Per the five pillars of Wikipedia, Since all editors freely license their work to the public, no editor owns an article and any contributions can and will be mercilessly edited. Once you post it, it's not your article anymore. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:15, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not convinced that MShabazz has edited in bad faith and will not take action against their account. Further, if the draft were to be protected to prevent them from editing it, you would also be preventing from editing. Finally, if you have a dispute over the draft's content or the use of sources, you need to discuss that at Draft talk:Sean P. Jackson. —C.Fred (talk) 17:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)‎


 * I'm sorry, but not entirely surprised, that my contributions to the draft article you started don't please you. I searched for sources to try to establish whether Sean Jackson is notable, and added what I found to the draft. Granted, it's not as hagiographic as what you wrote about Jackson, but establishing that independent, reliable third-party sources have written about Jackson—even in a negative manner—is the only way to establish that he's notable.
 * By the way, I also highlighted that one of the external links is an interview of Jackson by April Ryan, something you should have done (instead of just including the URL). — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 02:03, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Unblocked
I spoke with, who indicated that the block was strictly based on the legal threats. Since that matter has been cleared up, they have no reason for your account to stay blocked. That said, I think both of us share some concerns over other aspects of your conduct.

Please remember that Wikipedia is a collaborative environment: you need to work with other editors to build articles. Community guidelines and policies are meant to preserve harmony and uphold the standards set by the editing community; they are not obstacles or hurdles that you need to run around in an attempt to create an article.

Please also remember that when another editor leaves a message on your talk page, they are providing guidance on how to do things and be in compliance with Wikipedia policy and standards. The messages are meant to be helpful; they are not mere threats.

Finally, let me be clear that the unblock of your account has to do with your conduct as an editor. It is not in any way tied to the status of Draft:Sean P. Jackson. I encourage you, after you change your username, to work on improving the draft and getting it to the point where a consensus of editors think it's ready for the main encyclopedia, and then one of those editors can move it to mainspace. Please do not attempt to force or make an end run around the consensus-building process. I am not placing any formal restrictions on your account; please do not do anything that would require me or another administrator to place such restrictions in order to keep the encyclopedia running smoothly.

Your renaming request
Hello, I have rolled back the renaming allowed to James Dobson1 because this is a personality and you cannot usurp the identity of any person (dead or alive). Please pick another name. I am not a number (talk) 17:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

August 2018
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Sjacksonn01", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it appears to represent an article subject, but you have denied being that subject. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Since your original rename request was denied, I'm placing this warning to remind you to try again.   SarekOfVulcan (talk)  19:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I strongly suggest you follow up on this if you come back. Nil Einne (talk) 09:54, 15 November 2018 (UTC)