User talk:Sjorford/Archive 1

Isle of Wight
Hello. Do you have any idea what the current status of the boroughs of Medina and South Wight are? The Order that merged the councils didn't seem to actually abolish the boroughs. Morwen 18:21, Mar 7, 2004 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure - the order does seem to abolish the councils, but are you saying that the boroughs could have an existence of their own, separate from the councils that run them? does describe the districts themselves as being abolished.


 * I remember that it was stressed at the time that the new council was a merger of the three old councils, not just a continuance of the county council (so as not to annoy the existing borough councillors). That may explain why the name was changed to just "Island Council". Sjorford 09:39, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I read that, especially in Hansard (yes, i was sad enough to look this up), but the actual order renames the County Council to the Island Council, so whilst personel and elections and stuff may have changed, it kept the same legal personality.


 * Re the boroughs: yes. There is good reason to believe that [administrative] counties can continue to exist despite having no county council.  There are for example lots of orders that do such things as transfer land to and from the metropolitan counties that have supposedly been abolished.  I see no reason to believe that this cant apply to boroughs.  However, I'm not going to alter articles to say that until I find out whether this is true or not or just me speculating.  Morwen 18:18, Mar 8, 2004 (UTC)


 * Ooh, I've just found - it seems the IoW County Council was established in 1890, two years after the rest, by a special order. I'll find a place for that.

Football
Hi. I noticed that you contribute to the football related pages - in particular your table markup on the Cambridge United F.C. page. Do you know of any plan to do a common format for the English League teams? I'm wondering whether to start a specific project - there's quite a difference between the various team pages. I'm still quite new here, so I'd be grateful for any comments before I try to start. Jim 00:08, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Cromarty
Hello, Is Cromarty still technically a burgh? I noticed that you changed "The only burgh in the county is the county town, Cromarty" into the present tense - something I deliberately avoided doing, not being certain of the current burgh-status of the town. 80.255 12:31, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure to be honest - I just changed the tense to match the rest of the sentence, as the word "was" could have inferred former status on the county. It is listed at List of burghs in Scotland. Sjorford 12:47, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * Fair enough; a listing on burghs of Scotland seems sufficient justification for the time being. I'm perfectly happy with the tense as it stands. However, if any of wikipedia's resident Forces of Darkness decide to intervene, you heard it here first! ;-) 80.255 13:39, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * Happy to help, but I'm on neither side of the holy war. I'll just stand in the middle and spread a little peace and love. Sjorford 14:09, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Euro 2004
Hi Sjorford, I have added to the Euro 2004 page listings of the announced squads so far (just Sweden and england as far as I can make out) but I'm not sure if they are in the appropriate place. I'd appreciate it if you would take a look and maybe change them or discuss on the talk page. Calexico (Talk) 16:24, 17 May 2004 (UTC)

Typo
Well done for eliminating all those "the the"'s. From the fact that you've popped up in my watchlist a few times it shows that this must be a common problem! :-) JFW | T@lk  16:50, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

UK Singles Chart
Thanks for your additions (and editing) to the UK Singles Chart page.--Frankie Roberto 09:40, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

GB, UK and Olympic football.
I think it's important to emphasise the fact that the UK compete in the Olympics as GB, before someone comes along and changes it. I can't remember who, but someone is on a campaign at the moment expunging all references to Great Britain that mean UK. Mintguy (T) 19:19, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

What do you know about the England national amateur team for 1908? In 1907 the Amateur Football Association split from The FA. I'm not sure wherether the team sent in 1908 represented the FA or the AFA. Mintguy (T) 21:55, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ynysybwl
Hi there, noticed you editing the Ynysybwl entry I was writing at the time, are you from the village or have relatives there or similar ? Just curious.

Hackerjack (User_Talk:Hackerjack)

Second city
Hiya - I've tried a compromise on the Australian section of Second city, because even though it may not be the largest, Canberra is certainly the capital of the country. Let me know what you think. Angmering 22:13, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Official invitation
Hi!

This is a message to let you know that there is now a UK-specific Wikipedia community page at UK wikipedians' notice board. It would be great if you could come and get involved! -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 23:06, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

List of civil parishes in England
Hi, I went and had a look at the above page and it's already at 55kb in size. Go and take a peek at List of places in the United Kingdom: there is a whole list of county name lists there, where these parishes can be merged painlessly, making the information easier to find once it's been uploaded. Also you're not then restricting yourself to just parishes: hamlets, country houses and even housing estates if you really want to can be listed under the broader heading of "places".

These can probably be divided into List of places in England, List of places in Wales etc and then the county names listed there, but you'll get the general idea. I put the merge tag at the head of the parishes page stating my intention to merge (and not repeat effort), but someone else has since come along and removed it. I just wondered what your feeling was with regard to the growing lists of places in Britain. -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 16:37, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Never mind, it's been brought up at Talk:List of civil parishes in England. -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 16:44, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Signatures
Thanks for clearing up the thing about signatures on pages. I didn't mean to start breaking rules already (or ever)! I must admit I hadn't seen it done before, but just thought I'd give it a try! Oh well, off for more editing of football-related pages!--Ben davison 13:34, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Names Fixed or Unfixed?
I note that you took it upon yourself to "fix double-barrelled surnames" in the List of Life Peerages.Generally you seem to have concentrated on those peers who,on being made peers,legally adopted double-barrelled surnames in order to prevent their signatures from changing,and your "fix" was to erase mention of their new names.Is this really a change for the better or for the worse?--Louis E./le@put.com/ 12.144.5.2 21:42, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Re your reply on my talk page...a peer's signature is his title.There is no requirement for a surname to match his title,but the various (usually Labour) life peers who didn't want to sign their names differently from the common folk got around this by hyphenating their forenames to their surnames (George Brown becoming George George-Brown when he became Lord George-Brown,for example).--L.E./le@put.com/ 12.144.5.2 22:07, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
Certainly it can be recreated in fact I encouraged it. But the user was really unaware of wikiformat. So I gave the user some links so they can figure it out. If it doesn't get fixed in a bit I'll undelete and format it myself. Thanks :) Arminius 12:33, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

BSO
Thank you very much for fixing that- I feel like a bit of an idiot. I made a copy-and-paste error from an earlier page I was working on, and somehow failed to notice it sitting there the entire time I was working on the page. -FZ 21:59, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

United States
umm...why is calling the country the "United States of America" an insult? I ask out of mere curiosity. Guettarda 20:10, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

VFD Watchpages
Well, you know, you can do this for the automatic add per day: [ Add today's VFD to watchlist]

Nowiki format: [ Add today's VFD to watchlist]

Also, to avoid copying the whole length of the server name and stuff, you can do: [ 2005 February 1] -- AllyUnion (talk) 04:09, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

GNAA
I don't know how you can defend this obscenity on an otherwise excellent site. Please tell me how I can get this removed. I thought that the deletion process was the formum to discuss this. Disgusted by racists 10:04, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Jim Taricani
Knock off the personal attacks. RickK 00:15, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)

Moth redirect
Thanks for cleaning this up. Admit I was panicking, not sure what to do. Did it show?! Richard Barlow 12:01, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Rick.K
Thanks for the headsup. Looks like Theresa has already blocked this guy. RickK`

Stafford knot
I did know really that Hixon is east - I got the Grid Ref right. Thanks for sorting me out.

Now you can tidy up Stafford - something I was told in 1967 when I was working for English Electric - hence my rembering the Hixon crash. -- RHaworth 22:23, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)

How do you do your signature with the extra // ? Is it a template or do you just keep it on your machine? All I want is one that reads: Please reply here - I shall be watching. -- RHaworth 22:28, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)

WP:BJAODN
I recently had a bit of WikiFun. I added 37 suggestions to the talk page. If you don't mind, please look them over. ^_^. -- AllyUnion (talk) 16:32, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Towel Day and Stupid Day
Hi Sjorford,

When VFD changed to the by-day subpage system, one problem was that nominations no longer show up on people's watchlists. I noticed your subpage User:Sjorford/VFD pages, addressing this problem. But it doesn't help people who can't be bothered to go there and click on the links.

You've inspired me to come up with a better solution. Instead of having lots of little listings every day, why not just have one big listing, for all the pages together? A vote would be of the form I hope you'll take the initiative to start implementing this soon. :) dbenbenn | talk 14:41, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Keep, Merge, Delete, ...


 * Don't tempt me......... :) Actually, I am mildly worried that we might need further changes to VfD, as it scales larger and larger. The obvious answer, and one that has been mooted before, is to give delete access to all logged in users (give or take), and allow everyone to see deleted articles, thus negating the need for a VfD process at all. There does seem to have been a recent flurry of "professional VfDers", who could unbalance the voting as it stands. Actually, I'm of the opinion that the word "votes" should be removed from the title completely, but that's another story (damn, must remember to start all these discussions somewhere!) sjorford &rarr;&bull;&larr; 16:57, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry if this seems rude for interrupting, but I think giving all logged in users with the power of deletion is quite dangerous. We can already see all the damage it has caused by the Willy on Wheels vandal... we don't need vandals with more power.  We need more administrators of users we can trust. -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:42, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

thank you for the user page revert...
... ironically, I find myself strangely grateful for two twit vandals who showed up at the right time; I feel good when I have the respect of people I myself respect and when I have the opposition of those who've decloaked as utter knobs, it feels almost as good. =D But I thank you for making sure it didn't stay... -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:02, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

69,696
My source was a book that is perhaps outdated...what's the largest palindromic square that we now know of, then? --Tothebarricades.tk 19:23, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

List of countries by highest point
Many thanks for completing this article - I was amazed to return to a computer on Monday and see a list of 200+ nations. Warofdreams 10:08, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sir Michael Dummett moved to Michael Dummett
Why? Charles Stewart 12:27, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I guess a reason to prefer to use knighthoods is that they are generally disambiguating because of their rarity: though with the surname Dummett that's not such a big deal. As a rule, though, standardisation --> collisions, so I don't agree with desirification as a policy.  Incoming links: it's not so long since I did the move the other way (hence the question).  Well, I guess the move was good.  Charles Stewart 13:54, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, quite. I have no problem with the move, though I'm not sure about the consistency drive.  Charles Stewart 22:32, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Admin vote
Well, that was something of a travesty, I felt. If the "civility" bar were set that high in general, about I-hate-to-think-how-many of the existing cadre would be desysop'd PDQ. As someone with gnomic tendencies myself, I'd be happy to nominate you myself next time (3 months or however long). Or if you feel I'm a jinx, refrain from commenting at all. :) Alai 01:07, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

UAV
Unmanned aerial vehicle is not a proper noun, and thus should not be capitalized. See Naming conventions (capitalization). --mav 10:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Port Augusta, South Australia
Did you move the article to plain Port Augusta for a reason? The accepted Australian policy has been to put the article at Town, State, with the redirect or disambig at Town. See the rest of Category:Towns in South Australia. Cheers --ScottDavis 14:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No worries. City of Port Augusta is about the local government area, a bit like a county I think. For some of them like Port Augusta, there's not much difference between the town and the LGA. Others are quite a bit bigger, like Rural City of Mildura or Mount Isa, Queensland. --ScottDavis 14:42, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

UK/GB edits
On the issue of my edits, I understand your query. However, to the best of my knowledge, all of my edits are technically corrrect. Certainly, in the instances that you cite, they are. On the principle itself, the interchangeability of the terms (be it 'Britain', 'Great Britain', 'England', or anything else) is simply not acceptable. Would a Turkish user in Edirne consider it to be acceptable (or preferable) for every single page on Turkey to refer to 'Anatolia'? What about Malaysia/Malaya, Japan/Honshu, or Denmark/Jylland? I'm sure that you understand my irritation. Bastin8 10:32, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Marquess of Bute
Having the link go straight to the article rather than through a redirect costs the server less effort and looks more professional to the reader. Proteus (Talk) 16:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

That link could hardly be used in a naming dispute. All links to peers from articles on peerages were originally created using their full names, as they were created en masse. Proteus (Talk) 16:39, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Why I Am Not A Muslim
Why did you revert my change to a redirect? The title is wrongly capitalised, the correct form is an eistent article, and this was in any case up for copyvio &mdash; I don't see your reason, and you didn't have the courtesy to give one on the Talk page or even in the edit summary. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 10:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

I notice that you say that you're a revert evangelist, which makes matters doubly puzzling. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 10:57, 18 May 2005 (UTC)


 * It's good of you to apologise for snappiness given my message &mdash; I'll be editing in a better mood after this week (when the examss, and I'm free of panicky finalists giving me extra work to mark and wanting extra tutorials, etc.). Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 12:57, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

VFD closing
OK, no problem. I'll admit that VFD really isn't my area, although I've gotten back into it more in the past week or so (listing things on it, anyway). I think I probably saw someone delete a subpage on VFD when they speedied something 6 months ago from known vandals. Cheers. CryptoDerk 14:36, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Football portal
Hi! You seem to share my interrest in football so I thought that I'd inform you that I've started a football portal at Wikiportal/Association football. I chose to innclude "association" in the name to distinguish it from other possible types of football portals. Feel free to contribute to it! (Please answer here and not at my talk page as it makes dicussions easier to read for outsiders.) -- Elisson | Talk 15:53, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Looks like a good idea, although it'd be better to name it Wikiportal/Football (soccer), to fit with the name of the article (a long-running compromise). I'll try and remember to contribute to the portal when I have a chance! sjorford &rarr;&bull;&larr; 23:29, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I thought of that but didn't like using parantheses in the name, but it is probably better having it like that anyway. Is there any easy way to make the move? Or should we wait to the portal namespace is changed to Portal:? Contribute with anything, I'd say "news and events" and "did you know" are priority. Maybe also starting a wikiproject on football might be a good idea? Football seems to be the sport with the highest amount of articles and best cover (not very surprisingly, though), but there is almost no colaboration between contributors. -- Elisson | Talk 23:38, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * There already is a WikiProject Football clubs, although it's not really used at the moment. Hopefully the portal might act as a better meeting point for the community. sjorford &rarr;&bull;&larr; 23:42, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes I know, but what I meant was a more overarching portal for everything related to the sport. National teams, competitions, articles on memorable matches, league systems, and so on. But I'll try to do something on the clubs portal some day also. :) -- Elisson | Talk 12:29, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

List of English songs whose title includes nonsense-words
Hi Sjorford - I've put back the sections in "List of...". The divisions used may not be perfect, but the page is growing so rapidly some form of division is definitely going to be needed (it was only created 10 days ago!). BTW - isn't it time you updated the divisions in your Football subpage (especially since my old home town of Barnet is finally back in League Two! :) Grutness...  wha?  00:02, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that - I wondered whether it was a case of seeing the talk page afterwards. BTW, your football page has prompted me to write about my country's major cup tournament - you might like to look at the just-written Chatham Cup article! Grutness...  wha?  01:27, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image:Michael Collins.jpg
This isn't a speedy candidate, but it certainly belongs on IfD if you want to take it there. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 10:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * The criteria for images are much stricter than for articles (because images can't be undeleted). Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 10:55, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Disambiguation
Please do not disambiguate pages that do not need disambiguating. Joe D (t) 12:33, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I have read the discussion many times, and this is not what it means. The consensus was for starting the articles at the name with the full disambiguation suffix to save time before the election.  That does not mean the pages need to stay with the full disambiguation suffix.  The pages that have since been moved to a less complicated names are ones that we have checked definitely do not need the full suffix.  Joe D (t) 13:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Maxwell's nonlinear equations
Whoops; good catch! Thanks, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 16:58, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Admins list
Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. Since you've previously nominated yourself I added an '*' immediately before your name in this list. If for any reason you're NOT interested, my apologies and please remove the '*' (you could entirely remove yourself from the list also, if you'd like). I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:44, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

NOEDITSECTION
Thanks for helping solve the problem on VfD. Your revert limited the number of subpages with the "contamination", and I think you got about 50% of them. I have fixed most of the rest (and other editors seem to have finished it). --cesarb 22:26, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

from User talk:Weyes:

Hey, Weyes, when you added NOEDITSECTION to the Vfd top template, it caused the removal of all section edit links to every link on the page that the template was added to. :) Nice try, but it didn't work.  :)  RickK 21:53, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)


 * I think I've fixed all of these. It was a good idea, though. :) sjorford &rarr;&bull;&larr; 22:27, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh god yes, I hadn't thought of it working globally, I'm a pillock. Sorry about that, and thanks for cleaning up my mess. --W(t) 23:21, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)

Elizabeth II of Canada
Sorry but given that the VFD is more than five days old and there's a 2:1 vote (the hurdle needed for wikiconsensus) to redirect there's no justification for your reactivating the VFD and reversing its implementation. AndyL 02:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

See Consensus "In day-to-day Wikipedia practice, e.g. on VfD, consensus means something closer to supermajority, usually a two-thirds majority". There's a 2/3 majority on the Elizabeth II of Canada VFD after five days so I'm afraid there *is* a consensus. You have no justification for "reopening" the VFD. AndyL 03:01, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Actually, it's more than 2/3, about 70% in favour of merge/redirect. How long do you intend to carry this on for, I don't see how things will be any different a week from now?AndyL 16:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: WP:AN
No problem! Apparently the discussion page used to redirect to the project page, but later it was changed so that there would be space do discuss the noticeboard itself. It's rather confusing, especially when looking for conversations later. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 17:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Elizabeth II
My concern is that if left a few more days the VFD will fall through the cracks due to admin neglect and the consensus decision will not be implemented. If you agree to close the VFD and redirect the article if no other admin has done so, say, by the end of the week (assuming the ratio of votes remains the same) that's fine. Will you make that commitment? And if another admin in the mean time closes the discussion will you respect that?AndyL 21:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm mystified how a 70% vote to redirect/merge be seen as "too close to call"?AndyL 22:37, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Category:Club teams in Women's football (soccer)
It is pretty bad in retrospect. I just made it up on the spot as there already was a Category:National teams in Women's football (soccer). Your idea sounds better mind, and since not many teams are in it I'll prob. move things over to that. Cheers - Master Of Ninja 09:45, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

About copyright
Hi,I'm user:tdxiang.Can we post just ONE company logo on an article?And will our account be terminated if we continue to post copyright violating articles? tdxiangTdxiang

Category:UK Wikipedians
Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 20:50 (UTC)

Birthday Wishes
Saw on Wikipedians_by_birthday that you birthday was yesterday/today. (Ah, times zones...) So, happy birthday! Enjoy your trek through Asia... :) --User:Jenmoa 05:47, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Football
I noticed you've made a lot of edits to football articles and wondered if you'd like to join WikiProject Football. It's still new and there isn't a lot happening yet, but we're hoping to get things like a football collaboration of the (week/fortnight/whatever) going soon.

CTOAGN 19:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Moving content

 * My apologies for moving the site incorrectly (Yellow Submarine split). I've gone through alot of the tutorials, some was easier to find and learn than others. Should've caught that feature - I'm sorry. Barrettmagic 15:30 August 10, 2005 (UTC)


 * oh by the way quick follow up. Did some double checking. This was a minor edit to the pages after creating the disambiguation page, which contains the complete history behind all the edits to Yellow Submarine - all that was lost was the history of edits within those pages from 8/5-8/10. I've done a couple moves since, following your guidance. Thanks again! Barrettmagic 14:10 August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Template:Las Vegas casinos
Why did you add the content back in since it was not there at the start of TfD voting? The creator had already removed it. Vegaswikian 22:18, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Damien Rice
Thanks, I catch most of these, and do it differently for mm/dd/yyyy. Sometimes you can't tell which format it is and have to research (which is a bummer). If I get it wrong the zz's are a warning. I've only found about two articles which mix the // styles, but


 * David Letterman (06/13/2003, 14/04/2004)

realy takes the biscuit! There's only about 400 more articles to fix, then it's back to the "simple" dates where the month is in words. Thanks again, let me know if you see any more howlers. Rich Farmbrough 22:39, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I've finally come up with:


 * David Letterman (13 June 2003, 14 April 2004)
 * Jay Leno (7 October 2003, 3 December 2004)
 * Carson Daly (15 September 2003)
 * Conan O'Brien (22 July 2003)

all the dates have unique interpretaion except the Jay Leno ones which I am assuming are in date order. Rich Farmbrough 22:41, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

List of songs with brackets in their titles
This article is up for deletion again. In the previous vfd you wrote that you liked the article so your opinion may be of use in the rather one-sided afd that is happening now...  Grue  17:09, 4 October 2005 (UTC)