User talk:Skarmory/Discussions 1

Why?
I know you are helping but why did you remove some of the 'P' names I just added in? Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Did I? Probably an edit conflict? I definitely didn't intend to. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  09:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah probably an edit conflict. Sorry I hate when that happens after a very long edit lol. I believe I have found the last one-named 'P' storm so I think all should be fine from now on. I'll leave it to you with the rest. :) Typhoon2013  (talk) 10:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Also on a side note, you may see that some PAGASA named systems are not there or do not have a section, but you should look at either the Season summary/effects table. Kind regards, Typhoon2013  (talk) 10:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Skarmory – welcome to Wikipedia! I see that you've really picked up your editing recently and I'm glad that you're joining us as a more active member of our community. Just a quick pointer – 4im warnings are generally reserved for exceptional or egregious vandalism and disruption and generally editors like do not require an immediate jump to a level 4 warning. One other tip: if you install Twinkle, it makes a lot of the reverting/warning process much easier; to get started, read that page and then enable the "Twinkle" gadget in the Gadgets section of your Preferences page. It really does make things a lot faster. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 07:57, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I saw someone else use a 4im warning on someone who was vandalizing as well, so I used it - good to know for the future! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  14:08, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Skarmory – Please understand that my son who is a UF student was very distraught with Marco Wilson's bone-headed penalty for "throwing the opponent's shoe" which directly led to UF losing the game and any chance at the national title so the edit change to describe Marco as a "show thrower" instead of a "cornerback" was pretty understandable considering the intense amount of emotional energy the students place in these affairs. Being that he was home on Holiday, please do not impact my IP address as that would not be fair to me. I also understand that the edit would had been hurtful to Marco and his family and parents so I thank you for fixing the ill-advised edit.68.205.28.214 (talk) 05:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC) –
 * Don't worry about it, it happened 2 months ago and warnings reset each month, so if for some reason you did end up getting warned for something else in the future, the previous warning wouldn't impact anything. Also, even if you're blocked, you can still read Wikipedia, you just can't edit it. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  18:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Trout
Lol, sorry! Skarmory  (talk •   contribs)  17:16, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

RHONJ S10
Hi! Hotwiki's edit of this page is vandalism. It editorializes descriptions of the episodes with opinions, employs incorrect grammar and sentence construction, and refers to the women using their last names, which is inconsistent with other Housewives articles. My edit is an improvement. You should compare the two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:650:B20:29B2:3E5D:617:863E (talk) 17:21, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * What incorrect grammar? Cast members and people have to be addressed by their last name in Wikipedia articles especially if their first name was already mentioned, thats just writing 101. Episode summaries for the Real Housewives aren't an exception. You also persistently removed references and edited the article without providing an edit summary. I suggest you take it to the talk page of the article before you make another edit.TheHotwiki (talk) 20:53, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Hotwiki. Every single article for the Real Housewives on wiki uses the women's first names when describing the content of individual episodes. This page was therefore inconsistent, and unnecessarily so. Additionally, the grammar and sentence construction needed cleaning. Lastly, there was tons of opinion and editorializing in the episode descriptions that breaks the rules of this website and has no business being there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:650:B20:4CE7:D416:97E4:3287 (talk) 04:00, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * And every Real Housewives article used to include taglines until they were removed due to being against the rules. Stop your disruptive editing. There's NO exception for The Real Housewives. Your ip adress will be reported to the admins for your continous disruptive editing.TheHotwiki (talk) 05:21, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey
I love your username!! :D &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 00:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  02:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Third user opinion request
Hello dear Skarmory. I recently explained my edits here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Negrito#Edit_explanation:_Trying_to_restoring_useful_additions/changes_while_correcting_misrepresented_parts._~Nobuaki_H.. Some other editor seems to confuse me with another editor in dispute. I can verify to not be related to any of both parties. I have corrected grammar, dublicates, and original research, explained in the talk. It got checked and accepted, but than reverted.

Where can I request a third user opinion? Cleanup tag? It is necessary, as the current version has serious issues. I am unsecure what is the motivation. I stated that some edits of previous users are constructive and this is according to Wikipedia rules, which state that reverting to a bad version is not in the good of Wikipedia. I hope you can help clarify it. Sincerely Nobuaki H.176.97.70.48 (talk) 14:10, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Is this how to communicate?? re: Patrick Moore
I made the correction to the Patrick Moore article. Why did you revert it if you agreed with me????? Is it fine for Wikipedia to present an unsubstantiated lie, call it out and correct it in the latter part of the sentence, and sanction someone who corrects it???? And this happens several times in this pinhead article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.47.175.2 (talk) 18:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I was meaning to go to the talk page on the article itself, not my personal talk page. I'm not taking a stance, just putting it back where it was until a consensus is established - you should strike up a discussion on Talk:Patrick Moore, where anyone interested in the article will respond. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  01:57, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestions
Dear Skarmory, thank you very much for looking into my edit on the Michael Ghil article and I apologise for any poor edit. I am new to wikipedia and certainly the article needs improvements. I will do so as soon as possible. I will also remove any material that I cannot find sources for. Thank you again. Geograma (talk) 22:47, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey! No worries. In general, the edits seem to come off as somewhat promotional, especially in the awards/honors and publications sections (I can't find any specific guideline, but looking at other articles of researchers it seems to be a bit excessive compared to the rest of the article e.g. too much of the article is taken up by them), but I do see some of the awards and publications have been trimmed. I also would like to apologize here because I don't think I assumed good faith at first on your part, which I should've. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  05:35, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I should also point out the guideline on primary sources, as I notice the article has a bunch of sources under Ghil's name. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  09:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Skarmory! I hope all is good on your side. Just to let you know, I have done some edits on the Michael Ghil article. With respect to the primary sources in the Research section, these are peer-reviewed scientific articles that support the content there. Kindly let me know if you think that the current version has improved and therefore the template message can be removed. Many thanks! Geograma (talk) 14:51, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

This message to thank you for your warm welcome
Thank you for your warm welcome. I already got some tea yesterday and now also some cookies. Thank you very much for the good tips, so handy. Happy New Year and I hope we meet again Phacelias  (talk) 12:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! I'm always willing to help out if you need it. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  20:40, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

My bad
Hey! I see you undid my reversion on Natural Light. Sorry about that, I'm still trying to figure out Recent Changes and I mistook the prior edit for something else. Thank you for your patience and your kind welcome! Perfect4th (talk) 21:28, 25 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it! 99 times out of 100, a section being blanked with an edit summary along the lines of "this is a lie" or "this is false" is vandalism, but in this case, it wasn't. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  21:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Civil conflict
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Freedom_Convoy_2022 I'm deleting your message on my talk page and reverting the edit. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlcarlsonvt (talk • contribs) 01:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Alright, that's fine! I just saw the infobox being removed without an edit summary explaining why and didn't check the talk page – I usually do but this time I forgot. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  03:43, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Assyrianism
Don't give our community from Tur Abdin terms like "Assyrian"! We as a ancient Christian community and our church accepted Aramean as our herritage name. Don't give us name that we don't accept. It's against our will! You are using the same method as the Arabs, Turks and Kurds did in the past. We will protest as a community against these crimes. You people are brainwashing readers by doing this. If the Christians in Iraq choose to use these terms, it's fine for us but don't make a fool out of yourself by thinking that all Middele-Eastern Christians are identifying their selves with Assyrians. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aramean81 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Tagging pages for deletion
Hello, Skarmory,

I see that you are tagging some pages for deletion. Just a reminder that any time you tag a page for any type of deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/TFD/etc.), you need to post a notification on the talk page of the page creator. This will be easy for you since you use Twinkle, which is great. Just look at your Twinkle Preferences and be sure that a) "Notify page creator" box is always checked and b) that all types of speedy deletion criteria are selected. I think the default setting in Twinkle is to only have a few criteria (like A7 and G11) checked off but it doesn't really matter why the page is being deleted, the page creator should still receive a notification. Then, any time you use Twinkle to tag a page for deletion, Twinkle will post these notices for you which makes things easy.

Thank you for all of your contributions to the project! Liz Read! Talk! 01:25, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Alright, I did not realize that wasn't notifying. I'll go configure it now. Thanks!  Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  01:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I'm not seeing an option to notify page creators with G8, which seems to be the most important one, along with a bunch of other ones (F4, F5, F6, F8, F11, G7, G5, and U2 I believe is the full list of those?). I guess I'll have to keep a mental note to notify authors on G8; I doubt the other ones will be all that significant for my purposes. Do you have any idea on this? Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  01:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

RfA
I just wanted to thank you for what you said here about not yet feeling comfortable participating at RfA. I wish every editor would treat RfA as something to watch and read for a while until they understand what's going on instead of something to jump right into. :) valereee (talk) 09:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I just don't really have a good enough grasp on the general workings of a lot of areas on Wikipedia, and a lot of those areas are related to adminship, so I don't really have a great grasp on what makes a good admin and that leads to me feeling uncomfortable at RfA. I'll drop in some comments whenever I feel like I can provide anything, but for now, that's all I'm doing at RfA until I learn more. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  18:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * FWIW, and this isn't anything I'm telling you that you should do, the best way to start participating at RfA is to, when you feel you understand what others are saying well enough and feel it's how you're leaning, support. I would recommend being more cautious with opposes. And even more cautious with questions. I think I've probably opposed once and quite possibly never asked a question, and I've been here 15 years w/50K edits. And I don't think that's really unusual, even for people who are engaged at RfA. valereee (talk) 19:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

pictures from the weather article
Yes of course i can add the place where they taken since images are screenshots from video and there are no info on image properties..i like being more weather videographer than photographer ...p;  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pun89 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Great! Captions will definitely help the article. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  21:25, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

How to resolve the multiple issues
Hi Skarmory, thank you for your message. I am relatively new to Wikipedia (as an editor) so my apologies if I'm not getting everything right the first time. I am a volunteer for the Islamic Reporting Initiative, so it is correct that I do have a close connection with the subject. Hopefully that way I can provide useful content. Could you please let me know which sections, specifically, you feel read like an advertisement, so that I can amend my contributions accordingly? Many thanks in advance. With best wishes, Julian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianross CSR (talk • contribs) 19:05, 30 January 2022 (UTC)


 * In general, the way to make changes to an article you have a close connection with is to post on the talk page of the article, and use the template to request an edit be made. The conflict of interest guide has more useful information. In terms of wording that reads like an advertisement – that may be worded a bit too strongly, but it definitely seems to be non-neutral (it's somewhat hard to explain, and I'm already bad at explaining things anyway).
 * I definitely note some issues – for example, I would say the Islamic views and principles section isn't all that necessary; just maybe a paragraph that can be moved to somewhere else in the article explaining the organization's views on it and not going into excessive details on everything else. I'll probably clean that one up soon. The significance of Islamic banking and finance section also feels somewhat similar – I may merge those two sections?
 * Also, everyone is new at some point, and mistakes will be made; the information you can bring as someone with a close connection can be incredibly helpful as well, so thank you for offering your time here! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  21:20, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Continuing our discussion about Islamic Reporting Initiative
Hi, sorry I'm really struggling with the Wikipedia messaging system.. I feel I should be continuing the trail, but am unable to find my way back! ..thank you for your reply - I believe I have managed to 'request an edit' so hopefully someone will see if they can help! I completely agree with what you said about condensing the text - the only reason I did not do that myself is because I wanted to be neutral, i.e. I wanted to quote other people's work, and that didn't always allow for trimming so easily, obviously without making edits to their work.. The main reason for my editing this Wikipedia page in the first place was actually because it already said 'this page reads like an advertisement'... so that's why I was particularly focused on ONLY using third-party content, practically making up no content at all myself, just here and there for better flow. So that's my challenge, really.. and I worry that if I don't use all the quotes I've referenced now, I'll again run in to the problem of not having enough multiple sources.. (I did study the requirements quite carefully before starting the editing process) ..again, mainly because I'm not yet that familiar with Wikipedia editing, I suppose I'm trying to double-down on everything to at least maximize my chances of passing! Again, super grateful for your help here!! I really appreciate it. Ah, and as for your comment re shortening or merging the Islamic Values, and Islamic Banking sections - by all means please do! ..again, my main purpose really was just to make the most of the available third-party references, which I believe are in principle really strong for those sections. Thank you again, and have a great day! Julian Julianross CSR (talk) 21:50, 30 January 2022 (UTC)


 * If you click on this link: Special:Preferences – and scroll down about halfway, there should be an option labeled discussion tools. That makes it a lot easier to continue discussions; it's technically a beta feature, but I haven't run into any problems without doing anything advanced.
 * With copying text – be careful about copyright, as purely copied text almost always causes legal problems with copyright. This link has a table detailing what you can copy, but almost all of these require attribution. If you can't find anything saying the copyright status on a site, just assume it's copyrighted. The exception is quoting excerpts, which can be done as long as they are in double quotes and are marked by an inline citation at the end of the quotation (or I believe it can also be placed at the end of the sentence it is used in).
 * The sources should be fine, even if they get removed, as they exist and the article shouldn't get deleted for notability reasons. Worst case scenario, it can be tagged with a sources exist tag, and/or the sources can be placed on the talk page where someone else can come across and add stuff to the article.
 * And hey, I'm always willing to help as long as I can! If you have any questions, you can ask me, or go to a place such as the teahouse, which is geared towards newer editors. I'm just trying to make Wikipedia the best it can be, personally, and I gather that you are trying to as well! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  00:21, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi again, I was just implementing your feedback - and believe I was following your instructions rather successfully! ..when I got a comment from another editor saying I should not edit the document myself any more.. Perhaps you could take a look and see if you agree, and then 'accept the changes' from your side? (or differently, obviously) - I was trying to save other people from having to edit this for me, but evidently that's not what I'm supposed to do! ..am I supposed to leave things as it is now? ..again, this is very new to me, only trying to help!!.. Julianross CSR (talk) 23:43, 30 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I see that you did implement the changes by yourself – in general, outside of obvious minor fixes (typos, etc.), for COI editors editing the article yourself is strongly discouraged, which is why I brought up the request edit template. You use that on the talk page, and someone will reply usually within a few days, though I haven't gone through that process much. It's not a big deal though if you do violate a guideline unintentionally – someone will get around to fixing it and it'll get explained, and then everything will go on as normal afterwards. I do recognize you are trying to help, and that is what really matters! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  00:28, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks again Skarmory, much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianross CSR (talk • contribs) 12:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

By the way I was thinking about what you said about cutting the 'principles and values' section, but personaly I think that's an important one to keep. After all, as this is a values-based reporting standard (as opposed to 'accounting-based' reporting standard), and relatively new, it's probably important to say what those values are.. it's also a question we get asked all the time. Anyway will wait and see what happens! Julianross CSR (talk) 21:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey, sorry for the later response! Was feeling somewhat under the weather earlier.
 * I trimmed a sentence from there – it does seem to be more closely related to the organization than I thought on a first glance. I cleaned up some other more minor things with the article as well. I removed the advert tag, as the COI one should suffice. I'll probably work on it some more later, this was just to clean up a few various things throughout and take a look at that principles and values section. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  06:20, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh wow, thanks so much for this! only saw this message now, I gather messages don't flag up on the 'alert' bell. Still learning how things work around here! Hope you're feeling better again!! Really grateful for what you've done, still looks really good and obviously delighted to hear you feel it no longer reads like an advertisement, that's obviously important. Another point, since you offered to help if I had any questions - we have a picture of the Chairman of the Islamic Reporting Initiative, Mohamed Amersi, which was taken in his home, and he owns all rights to. Am I allowed to then put that on the page, close to where it says his name, and just say 'Copyright Mohamed Amersi'? He said I could use it for the Wikipedia page. I know that use of images is something Wikipedia is - obviously - very careful with, so would be grateful of your advice on how to go about it. Many thanks in advance! Julianross CSR (talk) 22:39, 1 February 2022 (UTC)


 * On the alert bell: they only show up if one of the pinging templates was used and it's not on your talk page (I forgot to use the template on that message, it would be used via (if you ever need to use it just swap out your name for someone else's)).
 * In terms of how I'm feeling – I'm feeling better now!
 * In terms of the image copyright stuff – I don't know all that much about image policies personally. The teahouse would probably be the best place to ask that question, and if not, they could probably direct you to the right place. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  02:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Great to hear you're better! ..and on the image, will speak to the people in the Teahouse! ..so hopefully you'll see some images added soon! Thank you again for your help! Julianross CSR (talk) 07:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks again Skarmory! I've just posted my question in the tearoom. Fingers crossed & have a great day! Julianross CSR (talk) 11:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Eleanor Platt page
Hi there I got your message about the Eleanor Platt page I am working on. She was my Great Aunt, and I am one of the only living family members with any information about her, which is why I am trying to document her works on Wiki. I will go ahead and make citations where needed but I don't know how to change the gallery tab, which was done by a different editor. I am hoping you can help me format the page so I can include all of her works. The many museums I have been working with are very excited about this project and are eager to see their sculptures on her page. Cabot215 (talk) 19:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi again, I just visited the Edward Manet page and like the gallery section at the end. This would be perfect for the Eleanor Platt page as she did a number of very important works. Could you set this up for me on the Eleanor Platt page and I will transfer the pictures into the gallery if I can figure that out. Also, I will have a lot more biographical information after I meet with an aging relative in a couple months. That should take care of the beginning section. Thanks! Cabot215 (talk) 20:50, 6 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I'll give the gallery a shot soon, but I have no idea what I'm doing with it. (I've barely touched images at all, just noticed this article had a huge blank space at the bottom due to excessive images). If you want to give it a shot, you should be able to go to the top toolbar, click insert, click more and hopefully add the images. (You should try this in your sandbox first, where if something breaks, no issues will arise; you can then copy it into the article from there if it works.)
 * In general, the policy about editors with a conflict of interest is to suggest edits that affect content (so not like turning the images into galleries, typos, etc.) on the talk page, with the template, where someone can clean up anything before adding it to the article. As she is your great-aunt, I would suggest doing that – feel free to mention me there (using, though if you can't figure it out I'll probably be checking back on the article every little while, and if I don't check back, another editor will eventually pick it up, that's the point of the edit request template). (Also, conflicts of interest aren't inherently bad, and people with them can be incredibly helpful for articles; the whole purpose of the edit request thing is so that stuff doesn't get overly biased.)
 * Unfortunately, with how Wikipedia works, direct conversations cannot be used as info for articles – this section of the no original research policy is fairly strict on this type of thing. However, if you can find any info online, in books, etc. anywhere, it's most likely going to be fine.
 * Feel free to ask me any more questions; I'm always willing to help! This is pretty dense, so if anything isn't clear, just let me know and I'll expand upon it. I hope I didn't dampen your spirits too badly, but I'm just doing my duty to lay out what has been set in place by other editors. I wish I didn't have to. :( Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  02:19, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Robert Stack (activist)
Hi Skarmory,

I responded to your comment on the Robert Stack draft page asking for 3 top sources. I believe there is a value added in an article regarding major charity CEOs. This organization solicits millions of dollars each year from donors and foundations. Many donors rely on Wikipedia for objectivity instead of charity rating websites. Here are the sources below:

Hi, thank you for reviewing the article. The top three sources in my opinion are:

https://www.nj.com/business/2021/03/covid-is-adding-scores-of-newly-disabled-employees-and-challenges-to-the-workforce.html

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/706139/disability-advocates-press-congress-to-fund-home-health-services

https://newjerseyglobe.com/section-2/non-profit-urges-state-to-pull-disabled-residents-out-of-long-term-care-centers/

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weihancoi (talk • contribs) 16:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Go figure, I can't really access any of them. It will be useful for when another reviewer comes along who can access them, however. Good luck! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  17:49, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Eleanor Platt page
Hi Skarmory, thanks for your nice note earlier. I spent over an hour today in the sandbox trying to get the gallery tag function(s) to work with no success. I tried it many different ways, as the instructions said, and no dice. I tried the simplest tag on Eleanor's page and it wouldn't show her works after I wrote the code as instructed. So, I changed it back. I must be doing something simple very wrong. I reread everything several times and still no success. Hopefully you or someone with media experience can help get the code written properly in the page. Sigh.... cabot215 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabot215 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 7 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I'll give the gallery a shot myself, then, sometime in the next few days, if nobody else gets to it first. I can at least update the tags for now incase anyone else comes across it. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  21:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi again, if you do decide to tackle the gallery issue, please make sure all of the captions stay with the images. I've spent countless hours gathering the information in the captions, it's very important! Thanks Cabot215 (talk) 23:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright – I'll do that when I get around to it! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  23:22, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help. Utfor (talk) 19:02, 13 February 2022 (UTC)