User talk:SkaterLife/Archive 1

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 * Thanks for the warm welcome and the awesome badge Anastasia! Cant wait to begin! Schoolskater (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Teahouse
Hi, why did you move the Teahouse? This is the kind of thing that needs discussing first, it was fine where it was. Thanks, Mat  ty. 007 16:11, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey sorry, I wasn't even thinking. Next time I consider making a decision like that I'll be sure to discuss it first.Schoolskater (talk) 16:15, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It's OK, it's just a slightly drastic change which would probably be better after discussion. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  16:19, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

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How can I help stop vandalism?
 * Hello Schoolskater, thanks for your interest in helping keep Wikipedia clean of vandalism. I recommend checking out the Counter-Vandalism Unit. You can also enroll in the Counter-Vandalism training program, where experienced editors can help you get started and guide you into becoming an adept vandal fighter. Let me know if you have anymore questions. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 15:51, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

CV training program
Hi Schoolskater. I'll ping several of the available trainers here instead of posting on their talk pages separately, that way they can all see if you've found someone. Note that many editors don't check Wikipedia that often, or may be too busy to train at this time. If is unable to help, perhaps, , or  would be available. &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 20:55, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Got the ping. I'll be able to help Schoolskater. But the decision is yours. Drop me a message or reply to this to tell me if you want me to train you or not. Thanks,  TheQ Editor   (Talk) 22:07, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend to take TheQ as trainer; I'm not available on a daily basis for now. Cheers.  → Call me  Hahc  21  01:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi,. I accept you as my trainer. Just drop me a message at my talkpage for when we start. Thanks,Schoolskater (talk) 12:20, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

CVUA
I've started the training program here. Cheers,  TheQ Editor   (Talk) 15:43, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome!
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Vandals
Hi Schoolskater and welcome to Wikipedia. Before reporting users at Administrator intervention against vandalism, you need to give appropriate warnings first and give them an opportunity to stop their disruptive behaviour. You can read about warnings, with links to templates that can be used, at Vandalism. WJBscribe (talk) 15:48, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If a user has made many small edits to a page (both adding and removing content), it is something best to look at all the changes together (e.g. ). Looking at all 41 edits to that page together, I do not think is vandalising Wikipedia. WJBscribe (talk) 17:38, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

You talk about me VANDAL? You are crazy??? Do you speak russian? i know english not prefect with you... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.88.101.50 (talk) 16:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC) & Don't want me! I Not Vandal! Vandal is Amir. I was wikipedia a very-very long time. I hope you understand me.--178.88.101.50 (talk) 16:56, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

My Userboxes.
Anyone can use the userbox's I have created. You can go ahead an use them on your userpage. Just open the bar below, and use them at any time! Schoolskater (talk) 15:36, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

You need to be more careful and investigative
I thank you for fighting vandals, but I am not a vandal. I was simply deleting this section that was left in a horrific state for some time and that is not vandalism, nor am I a vandal; more a vandal fighter myself when I was more active. You need to make sure you know who and what you are dealing with and section blanking with justification in the edit summary is okay and if the reason was a bit short for you, then you can always take a look at the previous revision to see what was wrong with it. Thank you. My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 15:09, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You seem to be making a lot of mistakes - the IP that you reverted was removing vandalism that you restored. I would personally recommend that you halt from vandal patrolling and finish your CVUA exam, but that is of course up to you. Thanks, My name is<font color="4000FF"> not <font color="#009933">dave (talk/contribs) 15:13, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!
Wow! Thanks, Walter Görlitz! This is my first kind of award, and I can see why people use them. Thanks for the kind words, and I understand how you must have felt when I removed something that your apart of. It kind of feels like a slap in the face when someone does that. (Believe me, its happened to me before). Have a great day!.SkaterLife (talk) 13:34, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Usernames for administrator attention
Hello SkaterLife, I came here to drop you a quick note to please do not report users to WP:UAA unless they have edited, none of the regular Admins patrolling the board are going to do anything with a user who hasn't made any edits, it just a waste of time. Now so much for my little note. You were advised 10 days ago about the same thing, by a mind you, and three out of four of your reports yesterday were tagged "wait til user edits" If this is the kind of stuff you want to do here I'd take good advise when given. Good luck,  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 05:00, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Clara D. Edejer
Actually, I sometimes do take action on users who haven't edited if the name violates policy egregiously enough. So don't give up there.

But ... this report to UAA was completely off base. Users are allowed to use their real names ... you can probably figure out why I'd take that almost personally. And leaving a warning saying the exact opposite on her talk page is really bitey, even if you didn't mean it that way. She went and tried to make a username change request; had she actually had to it would have looked even worse for her.

I reverted your warning, told her she was OK and left a note on your UAA report. Real names should be reported to UAA only when it's not terribly common and is shared with a known celebrity who we have an article on; or, if they're a common first name/last name combination, they claim to be that person (i.e. we once did have a before that aspect of policy was added, and now that name would be asked if it was her; however don't get all upset about a user account named, say, John Smith). If it's a non-notable person trying to promote themselves, just skip UAA entirely and report it as spam. Daniel Case (talk) 15:44, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Help
How can I archive my talk page?
 * See Help:Archiving a talk page. The easiest way is to use one of the bots described there to archive automatically - you can set the parameters, as described, and then just leave it to the bot. JohnCD (talk) 16:18, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello SkaterLife! Hope you don't mind: I just copied my archive onto your page. It has worked fine for me ever since I copied it from User:Yunshui. :) The box will appear on the page as soon as the archiving kicks in depending on the settings. Revert the edit if you want. Best, - W.carter (talk) 18:35, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Behaviour investigation
Re Behaviour investigation -- please see WP:POINT. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:28, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

@SkaterLife:  Hello SkaterLife! Sorry for butting in, but I was posting below and I happened to notice this discussion. The first time I made an article I just started writing the article and thought I might find some references later. The article was bashed around by other editors for it's lack of references and it felt pretty bad. I finally got it right, but with considerable difficulty. SO, from now on I always start with gathering the "evidence", that is the references, and write the article from them. This way I don't waste time with an article that is not going to be anything for lack of refs. And I know from the beginning if I have solid sources. Like when I did the major expansion of this article, I first went down to the library and borrowed all the books I could find, read them, and then started. It's just the same when you write something based on web sources: Start by Googeling everything you can think of in relation to the article you want to write. Collect all the links you find somewhere on a subpage and go through them. After that the article will almost create itself. :) Good hunting! Best. - W.carter (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Did I do something wrong, NawlinWiki?SkaterLife (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You created an unsourced page that appears to express your frustration with something Wikipedia is doing. That's not appropriate.  NawlinWiki (talk) 15:37, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. But could you explain to me about how it seems that I was frustrated? @NawlinWiki. SkaterLife (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Most of the time, when someone creates a page about Wikipedia investigating people or disciplining them, it indicates that the person perceives themself as a target. If that wasn't happening here, I apologize.  But in any case, pages about internal Wikipedia procedures won't generally satisfy WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I totally understand now, I apologize. I was making my first Wikipedia page and I'm having trouble with references.SkaterLife (talk) 15:57, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Summonercho SPI
Hi. Your recent sockpuppet investigation report for is confusing because, as far as I can tell, neither Summonercho nor the account you say is a sockpuppet  has made any edits at all. Since there appears to be absolutely no evidence of disruptive editing here, I have closed your SPI report without taking any action against either account.

If you saw these accounts by reviewing the most recent entries on the "list users" special page, and decided to report them because it seemed suspicious that two almost identical names were created at almost the same time, you might want to reconsider your method. While it is appropriate to report new usernames that violate the username policy, two usernames that are very similar are not an automatic violation of the sockpuppetry policy (or any other policy) unless they are actually editing in a disruptive fashion, or unless they are clearly part of an existing pattern of disruptive editing.

I do understand why you might have felt the existence of these two, very similar usernames was a cause for concern. And if these two accounts do start editing in a suspicious fashion, please feel free to re-file an SPI report. But if you do so, please be sure to include clear evidence (links to specific edits that clearly show inappropriate editing), in keeping with the instructions on the WP:SPI page; a report without clear evidence is likely to be summarily ignored. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 02:21, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

The cupcake
Thanks! I didn't answer at the time because a) I wanted to finish UAA up, and b) I actually had some energy at the time, in the form of a late cup of Dunkin' Donuts coffee that I was in the process of consuming. But thanks all the same. Daniel Case (talk) 19:33, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Andrew Reynolds image file
Thank you so much for adding the image for the Andrew Reynolds page, as it appears to be recent. Just so you know, the original upload did not work, as you inserted the entire URL in the Infobox—only the file name needs to be inserted (in this case: "Andrew_Reynolds.jpg"). Cheers, --Soulparadox (talk) 04:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Rollback
Hi. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3A enabled] rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:38, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
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I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Sulaimandaud. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Gujrat Colony, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Sulaimandaud (talk) 19:57, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Samantha McMahon Orton (July 9)
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unexplained reversion of my edit on Equisetum
I would be grateful for an explanation of your unexplained reversion of my edit on Equisetum. Plantsurfer (talk) 19:43, 9 July 2014 (UTC) Please also read the article Pteridophyte, where it is made clear that Pteridophyte is not a valid taxon. It is a paraphyletic group, and not a Phylum or Division. Plantsurfer (talk) 20:04, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * please read Phylum where it states in the lead " Traditionally, in botany the term division is used instead of "phylum", . . ."

But if you would CONTINUE reading Phylum, It states that Phylum is acceptable. Plantsurfer. I would also like to ask about haow come you asked me why I changed Division to Phylum and not the IP address that changed it. That was my IP.SkaterLife (talk) 13:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Your recent use of rollback
Hey there, I believe you may be misusing the rollback tool, perhaps unintentionally. Here you rollbacked a change that was clearly a constructive edit with a valid edit summary. You provided no edit summary and therefore treated it as vandalism. Here you restored unsourced content about living persons. Disputable action, but you should have at the least provided an edit summary. Here you reverted a change to a link, where apparently the previous user was trying to correct the red link. You then issued a level three warning when the last warning by that user was issued over a month ago. He should have received no warning as it wasn't vandalism, but at the very least it should have been level one. Here you inexplicably reverted a bot that removed a link to a nonexistent image. The bot's edit summary clearly indicated why the image was being removed. One more example... here you used rollback to restore a few links. This is not vandalism, and turns out the content removed was not supported by the source. You should have done a normal reversion and explained why you were undoing it.

I see that you are currently being tutored at the counter-vandalism unit academy. This is great, and indicates you mean no harm and are trying to learn. I would take all advice given by your mentor. Please review Wikipedia:Rollback on what is appropriate use of rollback, and Vandalism to get a better understanding of what constitutes vandalism. I also don't think you understand how important it is to assume good faith. That means new users, IPs, or users with tens of thousands of edits. Please be very careful with the rollback tool, or your rights will be revoked. Thank you. &mdash; <b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk 16:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help.
Ok, angrygotfan has over 7000 followers on twitter. He is a great source of info on game of thrones and the books. We want to start a wiki page so people can find this info even if they do not belong to twitter Oberynsparamour (talk) 15:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oberynsparamour (talk • contribs) 14:59, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, Oberynsparamour, I understand. Has this website earned any awards or publicity? Oh and when you end a comment, please end it with Four Tildes. Thanks, ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  15:04, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

No, it hasn't. But it gets a decent amount of traffic. Trying to get more awareness out there Oberynsparamour (talk) 15:11, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for signing your comment. Ok, On a scale of 1-10 how important would you say the article is? ☯SkaterLife☯   talk  15:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Like the article I'm trying to get on wiki? I would say 10? The articles on the website? Equally as important. The premise of angrygotfan is to make sure everyone knows the differences between the books and the show. We are trying to raise awareness. Wiki can help us reach out to people that do not have twitter Oberynsparamour (talk) 15:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I think I found what the problem is, You need to show in your article why the article is of importance. ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  15:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

How can I do that? Is it even possible since it was submitted for deletion? Oberynsparamour (talk) 15:22, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Of course its possible. ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  15:28, 15 July 2014 (UTC) Can you help me? Tell me what to do? Oberynsparamour (talk) 15:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh,ok. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oberynsparamour (talk • contribs) 15:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello from another Teahouse host. Let me see if I can add some additional clarification. The concern we're having over this article is whether or not it is notable. It obviously exists and has a number of followers, but existence does not equal being significant and notable. Some things that would go to show the notability of the site are discussion by independent, third-party reliable sources of the website (for example, Entertainment Weekly or a newspaper mentioning the site in an article on the series' fan-base). I'm sure you're passionate about this, but unfortunately that's just not enough to justify an article, especially one that apparently is trying to use Wikipedia as a soapbox to promote one's displeasure with something. -- McDoob  AU93  15:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

What if some of the tweets have been featured in a number of other places? Say other websites? For example, he is often featured on www.winteriscoming.net, has been on hollywoodlife.com things like that? 128.23.22.7 (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

sorry, I forgot I logged out oops, Oberynsparamour (talk) 16:00, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Depends. Is this content just featured, or is it reviewed in-depth by expert reviewers? --Jakob (talk)  22:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

ATTENTION WIKIPEDIANS
This user is on a wiki break for a period of 1 week or 168 hours or 10080 minutes or 604800 seconds. This user is not to edit Wikipedia and would appreciate it if other Users would make sure he doesn't do so. The date is now 7/17/2014. Thanks! ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  18:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, you just got blocked which should help. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  18:14, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And unblocked again. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  18:15, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * To my dismay and confusion, you omitted days. Now I don't know what to do. ;) Mandruss (talk) 19:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

TIME OUT

Mat ty. 007 ,<b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk  My IP address is autoblocked for some reason! Help! ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  20:53, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * did not autoblock your IP when they blocked your account. The IP may have intentionally been blocked for other reasons. Editing as the IP on your IP's talk page, you can make an unblock request. However if I am correct in my assumption, that would undermine the purpose of a soft block, which is to prevent disruption from unregistered users while still allowing account holders, such as yourself, to edit freely. &mdash; <b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk 21:07, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully I didn't screw up the block and unblock... I don't block people often so it's possible that I did. But, SkaterLife, if you really want to take a break this should not be a concern to you. Get back to your schoolwork! (This is meant to be a friendly, firm reminder that real life is more important than Wikipedia editing.) If it's still a problem after a week you can deal with it then. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I cannot see how the fact that the IP is blocked will be detrimental to enabling you to take a WikiBreak, it should in fact help. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  08:24, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * how is having your IP address blocked not a good thing? Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  14:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Well its not good because then its basically saying that the only reason that I was able to go a week without editing is because of an IP block. I want to be able to know that I could edit Wikipedia, but I have enough self control not to. Do you know what I mean, Mat  ty  .  007 ? ☯SkaterLife☯   talk  14:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. But you can edit logged in, so choosing not to edit for a week will still prove self-restraint (the block was lifted near immediately). Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  14:15, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * If I try to edit (I was checking to see if I still could) An IP block notice pops up saying User:Osama Laden II used my IP and it is now blocked. ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  14:42, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think you need to post the unblock request on the IP talk page. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  14:45, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Second chance
Hello SkaterLife! This was a somewhat disappointing start. You really need to just not worry about anything Wikipedia. I will reset the clock from this edit and give you a second chance. In real life you don't get many of those. Show us that you can make good on your word and return to your schoolwork by NOT even responding to this post. :) Leave everything for now and trust that Matty.007 and Calliopejen1 will sort out all of the blocking problems in good time for your return. And no cheating with IP or a friends account. I've seen that you want to become a Green Berets or a US Navy SEAL, see this as a first step towards showing that you can commit to something and that you trust your teammates to be there for you. Everything in life is a preparation for such a goal. I have many friends in different kinds of armed forces, so I know what I'm talking about. Your new week and your new life starts NOW. See you in a week! Best, <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  17:56, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Your editing
Even if the song is a real one, your assertion that it has ever been a "huge internet phenomenon" is clearly false. Deb (talk) 17:53, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Deb ,If you look at the list, here You can see that it is an Internet Phenomenon. I suggest you validate your reasons before you delete pages. ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  18:04, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Just goes to show you didn't read the list properly. There was no mention of a banana in your article. Deb (talk) 21:12, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow Deb, You are very serious about your job. Couldn't you be a bit more lenient with user's. I wasn't even close to finished with the article yet. Oh and I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't say I made a hoax on my talk page. ☯SkaterLife☯   talk  14:30, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I hate to intervene but I will. I've been watching this page because of my post above, and if you don't mind I'd like to state my two cents on this "hoax" dispute. First off, it is not a hoax and it was an internet phenomenon. If you simply do a web search of "peanut butter jelly time" you should find ample results, and at least Google autocomplete suggests the word "song" at the end, not "banana", so understandably SkaterLife may have missed that. If you want reliable sources about this song you can find plenty here. This does not mean, however, the song necessarily deserves it's own article. Furthermore, while I do not think the article met criteria for speedy deletion, it may have been quickly tagged for WP:AfD. So advice for SkaterLife: it may best to use your sandbox or the draft space to work on your article before moving it to the mainspace to avoid this sort of thing.

I also recommend we maintain proper etiquette in discussion. Deb, all due respect, but you seem a bit bitey, and perhaps were not assuming good faith when dealing with this user. SkaterLife, you know very well this is not a job. Your tone only adds to tension. Please remember civility is a core policy and lack thereof will not be tolerated.

I hope I am not out of place by intervening here, and for the record I am not siding with either of you. I just hate to see incivility and thought I should try to defuse it before it got any worse. Thanks. &mdash; <b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk 15:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Your right <b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk, I was letting my anger get the best of me. Deb I apologize for being rude. Thanks for helping out, ☯SkaterLife☯   talk  15:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, this is how I looked for references to support the statement that the song (no mention of the banana in the article) was notable - I googled on Peanut Butter Jelly Song (title of article) and got no reliable sources in the first five pages of results to suggest it was of any particular significance and none at all to suggest that it had been an internet phenomenon. When Skaterlife insisted that the article wasn't a hoax, because "it's an actual song", I looked at the article List of Internet phenomena that he referred me to, and found that it mentioned (again with no reliable sources) that a banana singing this song was an internet phenomenon (not a "huge" one).  So the song on its own isn't a phenomenon (at least, not according to the wikipedia article) and the article I deleted consisted almost entirely of the lyrics of the song.  Skaterlife may be newish, but I see he's been given rollback rights, so he should be aware of the basic guidelines about notability and verifiability, and should also know that unfinished articles should be retained in user space.  So Skaterlife, if you can abide by the wikipedia guidelines, I'm sure we'll get along fine in the future.Deb (talk) 17:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I've boldly refactored the section title, because the original section title led me to assume that SkaterLife was being accused of deliberate WP:HOAXing, which is a serious accusation and very obviously untrue. (Deb, you should have had the gumption to change the section title yourself.) Different perceptions of whether something is a "huge" phenomenon, and the distinction between whether a song itself is notable, or a particular recording of the song made by a banana is notable (note that WP:CSD criteria treat these two things differently), is irrelevant nit-picking. And it certainly doesn't make it a deliberate hoax. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Do bear in mind that this discussion only began because of the rude message Skaterlife left on my talk page. And I find your use of the word "gumption" offensive.  Skaterlife could easily have amended the title himself.  Please don't try to start another unnecessary argument when the issue has been settled. Deb (talk) 09:55, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Either something has been revdel'd or otherwise removed, or you (Deb) are in WP:WIAPA territory now. Please either provide a diff of a "rude message" from Skaterlife on your talk page (hint: this isn't), or retract your claim. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:07, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right. I apologise to Skaterlife but I still think you're out of order in trying to stir it up after it was sorted.Deb (talk) 17:24, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you, that is most gracious of you. On the other point (my involvement), we may have to agree to disagree. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Please Lift IP block
Demiurge1000 (talk, Will you please lift this autoblock? ☯SkaterLife☯  talk  17:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I just unblocked Osama Laden II. Are you able to edit now? Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've voided the template, because as far as I can tell, SkaterLife isn't blocked. PhilKnight (talk) 22:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)