User talk:Skkipper

October 2022
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. MrOllie (talk) 22:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I apologize, I was not aware that this publication had been posted before. I am the Spanish publisher of Mr. Carotta, and he asked me three hours ago to include his new finding in Wikipedia, but he didn't advise me that somebody else had done so before. As it came directly from him, I failed to check as I should. I assume he was not aware either.
 * Best regards,
 * Skkipper Skkipper (talk) 23:25, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Please understand that this fails WP:RS. You can check this at WP:RSN. Doug Weller  talk 09:17, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello Skkipper. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Francesco Carotta, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Skkipper. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 19:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear Sir,
 * Thank you once more for pointing this out. Again, I was asked by Mr. Carotta to include his most recent publication in the bibliography of his page. I am not directly or indirectly compensated for my edits. I was under the impression that adding a reference to a published book to the page of its author was fair, whoever did it. It widens the information about the author and the diffussion of his work. I would't expect that it would be construed as advertising, particularly because the Dutch edition of the same work is already there, this being just its Spanish translation. In fact, I did assist the Spanish publisher in the publication of this book, as I have known Mr. Carotta for over 30 years, but I derive no further copensation from his book. Maybe my English is failing me, because in Spanish "publisher" = "editor", and I did "edit" his book for publication.
 * I will therefore refrain from following Mr. Carotta's suggestions and ask him to find some other editor in the future.
 * Best regards, Skkipper (talk) 21:02, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you are professionally associated with him, you're a paid editor and WP:COI and WP:PAID do apply. MrOllie (talk) 21:31, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice. I am in no way a paid editor. My professional career has been Head Curator, Royal Botanic Garden, Madrid (1974-2020) until my retirement this year. Nobody has paid me for my posts on behalf of Mr. Carotta, and I derive no direct or indirect compensation from his work. I am not professionally associated with him. All I did was editing work for a Spanish publisher related to his book, but my professional association was to the publisher, not to Mr. Carotta. I have translated or edited over 200 books along my career, for various publishers, and I don't personally know most of their authors. I don't believe that knowing an author and reading his work implies any conflict of interest. I don't mind at all completing WP:COI and WP:PAID, but I have perused the pages and I would not know where to start, because I find no COI and I am not paid by Mr. Carotta. I also personally know our former President Felipe González, who donated his collection of bonsais to RBG Madrid. If I post about that, is there a COI?
 * Still, I appreciate your care in curating WP, which is obviously great for all users. I don't want to waste your time any more. I will refrain from posting on anything but Botany in the future.
 * Best regards. Skkipper (talk) 23:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)