User talk:SkyWalker/Archive 8

Empire: Total War
You've really done a good job compiling sources for the article in the sandbox. Hopefully I will be able to get on to Total War within a few weeks, I've only got a few more articles to get through FA/GA/FL/related process before I'm free to get going on something fresh. -- Sabre (talk) 16:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Need Help
I just recently created an article for the Xbox 360 game RACE Pro that a user immediately nominated for deletion because he/she is not convinced the game exist, despite the fact that I've listd valid sources (the game's offical website) and such. Their reasoning is because the article is too short or whatever (albeit the game hasn't been release yet). Please help. Thanks.Beem2 (talk) 04:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Greatly appreciated!! :)Beem2 (talk) 11:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sherlock
I wasn't aware. I found the incorrectly titled page when I was off to Ritchie's page to create a link. Alientraveller (talk) 11:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Out of the frying pan and into the fire :D Erik and Steve did a lot of work on that article and I haven't seen the film myself. There are lots of unused cites on the talk page that are worth implementing. Alientraveller (talk) 11:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe best to remind them when they're not busy. The article is quite decent though. As for the Narnia cast list, sure, I might as well give it a go. Hope you're ok after surgery. :) Alientraveller (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree; the Hellboy II article is in decent shape right now, not far off GA. I haven't seen it yet, so I'd have trouble helping to bring it much beyond that, but once I'm done with Changeling, I'll see if I can at least help to incorporate some of those unused cites. All the best, Steve  T • C 14:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: FarCry 2
Not really. I know it's a fairly popular game but I haven't played it yet; I haven't played as many games lately as I normally do. Also, I'm starting to sway more towards Wii games than PC as I usually use a Mac for my computer and so I have to run Windows just for whenever I want to play games, which is a bit cumbersome. Gary King ( talk ) 14:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope not really; try asking at WT:VG. Gary King ( talk ) 16:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think so; it's not a game I like. Gary King ( talk ) 16:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Dileep
I have reverted your edits to the previous version. The name "Dileep" refers to multiple people and cannot be attributed to a single person. There exists a page for Dileep the actor at Dileep (actor). The edits I have done are after consulting senior Wiki editor Mattbr.

WikiGlobal7 (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC) WikiGlobal7

Tomb Raider
Hy, Regarding to Tomb Raider (series) article, how do you think it should be rewrite, what is the most disappointing aspect of the aticles quality? Thank you.

Tulok (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Question
Hey. I was just wondering if you know how (or if it's possible) to create an Xbox-only system platform list? I recently noticed that practically all of the primary consoles have them, with the exception of the original Xbox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Only-platform_software). Thanks.Beem2 (talk) 02:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I was looking to see if there could be a category made for Xbox-Only titles. As it appears to be the only major system which doesn't have one.Beem2 (talk) 22:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

script
Sky, I'm always pleased to hear that another editor is installing the script. Have you opened your monobook page and refreshed the cache according to the instructions at the top of the monobook? If that doesn't work, are you using Firefox? Apparently there are a few problems with it (I use Safari only). If still unsuccessful, please leave a note for User talk:Lightmouse, who's the guru. The guy above on my talk page has done that and appears to have had success after advice from Lightmouse.

Please let me know if the problem isn't soon resolved. Tony  (talk)  15:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

HI
please check me and my brothers user pages mine is Trevor515 and my brothers is 11jdeitrich leave a comment or message to both me an my brother thank you have a good night. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevor515 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:Standard numismatics external links
Thanks for helping clear out the old template - just an fyi, I'm doing/have been doing an AWB run to get rid of it. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 05:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Jada Pinkett Smith
Hey there. The movie may be completed, but there is still no release date. Future films should only be added if it is considered notable to avoid violating the crystal ball policy. I researched the Angelina Jolie article (a Featured Article) when I worked on the Jada Pinkett Smith project. The Jolie article states the same thing when speaking about films that have not been released. The Human Contract is already mentioned in the article. When a release date is announced, please feel free to place it in the table. But I am in the process of fine-tuning the Pinkett Smith article so that it meets the criteria for Good Article status. I understand your reasoning for adding The Human Contract into the table, but I don't want any reason for the article to be denied GA status. I hope you understand.

As far as the Gary Oldman article, I am currently working on a new project. But I love Gary Oldman, so I will take a look at it and see if I can't add it to my To Do list. Ms. Sarita (talk) 07:59, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm just going over the Pinkett Smith article, and trying to make minor changes here and there, so that they may be avoidable when it is assessed. I'm pretty much done, but I saw that you edited a mistake a few minutes ago that I completely missed. So, going over it is obviously needed. Hehe! Thanks for helping out! Oh, and I took a look at the Oldman article and saw that it failed the GA assessment, and nobody did anything about it, even though they were given specific details on how to have the article promoted. It's so close! So I have added it to my To Do list. I should begin work on it shortly. Ms. Sarita (talk) 08:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, thank you again for your help. I nominated the article for GA status last night, so keep your fingers crossed! Ms. Sarita (talk) 20:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

script
Hi, you may be interested in trying the script at "Recent changes", which at least educates current users through the change wrought and the links in the edit summary. Most editors have probably not heard of MOSNUM or CONTEXT. Biographical articles are a sure bet for linked dates. You may also wish to go through whole categories of topics that are of concern to you.

The two buttons at the bottom are the super-duper ones that delink dates and change month day into the order you've chosen (depends on whether you hit the bottom or second-bottom button). You may wish to read MOSNUM on which format is used for which country-related article. A lot of UK and Australian articles wrongly use US format and need to be changed to international.

The "Delink common terms" function is included in the bottom two buttons; so is the delinking of "year-in-[subject]|year" "concealed" links, which causes some editors to complain (but I use it anyway and tell them to revert if they don't like it—concealed links are deprecated at MOSLINK). If you want to delink dates alone, without the other functions, use "Delink dates to ...", the fifth and sixth from the bottom. If you want to format ALL dates (i can't remember whether it delinks as well), which is useful where there are wrongly formatted unlinked dates, use the third and fourth from the bottom.

BTW, I think on both platforms the "tab" key is useful for the convenient, quick operation of the script: two tabs and then "return" saves the diff you're looking at. Experiment.

Cheers Tony   (talk)  13:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser
Have you considered becoming a user of AutoWikiBrowser? It is easy to use and will make some of your work much easier. One of the things it is particularly good at is lists. You can use search functions to create a list, then it will run your code on the list. It is much easier than pulling up an article one at a time as you are doing. Furthermore, it will immediately skip an article if there is a null edit or if the article meets a skip criterion that you set. I can help you through it all if you like. Lightmouse (talk) 12:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Empire
The rewrite seems to be coming along quite well, I just have to do naval warfare and multiplayer (and reference them) and the gameplay section will be done. Development section will be more awkward, but hopefully the sources you've provided will be adequate for that. However, the faction lists won't be coming back. I opened a discussion on WP:VG, and consensus was pretty clear on the issue: lists of every single faction in a Total War game is not necessary, and goes against WP:NOT, WP:IINFO and WP:VGSCOPE, even if they are based on real-world factions. Consequently, I'm summarising the factions quickly in prose. Can't imagine the fan writers will be happy judging by how these lists have proliferated through the other articles in the series, but they'll just have to put up with it under WP policies. -- Sabre (talk) 19:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh, it'll be a while until its elligible for GA or FA, convention is that unreleased games can't be GA or FA (unless Creative Assembly decides it wants to turn the game into vapourware). Got to say its rather nice to be able to legitimately write an article in British English for a change. As Creative Assembly is a British developer, WP:ENVAR allows for British English to take precendence over American English. -- Sabre (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Aye, the hype's to appeal to the American market. According to PC Gamer, previous Total War titles haven't sold too well in the US. Explains having the US as a faction, the storymode campaign seemingly based more on expansionism and revolution in north America and the US release date before the UK one. As for the modding, I've released several bits for a couple of games (GoldSrc and Source engine based ones), but not for the Total War series. -- Sabre (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sort of studying the wrong stuff to try to get into the industry: I'm reading history at university, which isn't much use for computer programming and other computer related things. My modding's just a hobby. -- Sabre (talk) 15:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Anderson Luís de Abreu Oliveira
Please try to maintain a level of consistency in the date format used in that article. The majority of the dates are in the international format (DD MMM YYYY), so they should all be in that format. – PeeJay 11:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is a good point. However, since the article already uses the international format (which is not just for Britain and Australia, btw) you should not force the birth date and age template to put the month first. Finally, I do not believe it is inappropriate for the player's birth date to be linked in the lead. – PeeJay 12:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Universal Soldier
There doesn't appear to be any indication that this film will actually be out next year: it's a hollow citation, so I recommend prodding it. Alientraveller (talk) 11:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Will look into this overlinking now
Thanks; you may be interested to know that there's been an attempt to except infoboxes from the guideline against the linking of trivial terms, at CONTEXT. I'll leave messages with PC78 now. Londo056 has been making attacks on this guideline at CONTEXT, in an apparently coordinated action. Tony  (talk)  11:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We may be able to resolve this with a compromise wording that allows what would otherwise be a trivial overlinking for the sake of neatness on the same line or in the same batch of information in an infobox (the wording needs to be refined). Would you be agreeable to this?
 * It still doesn't resolve both your and Londo's violation of 3RRR ... ahem? Best to have the high-ground? Tony   (talk)  11:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

3RR
I have reported you for a clear violation of 3RR at Amber Tamblyn. I appreciate that this also concerns recent changes to WP:OVERLINK, but whether you are right or wrong is not the issue; edit warring is not acceptable or constructive. PC78 (talk) 11:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Change of Title
Dear SkyWalker, it is not my purpose, to insult you but I wanted to make your text better. You write Witch-king and not Witch King. I have tried to change the title in a normal way but that didn’t worked. So I used another way. Tim Auke Kools (talk) 14:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Don’t you see? There is no "–" between Witch and king and you don’t have to write the K with a capital. Tim Auke Kools (talk) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

3RR Stern Warning
You have broken WP:3RR at Amber Tamblyn. Don't do this, its a Really Bad Idea and if you are unwise enough to do it again you'll get blocked for it. No, it doesn't matter if you're right William M. Connolley (talk) 19:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

video games
do u have cod4--DCsniper207 (talk) 19:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Football player articles
I saw that you de-linked the dates in football player articles and changed them to the American format, even when they were already in British English format. According to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_25 this should not be done. --Jaellee (talk) 20:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * But why should American format be used if a player is for example from Germany where dates with "month first" are never used? I don't know how it is Spain or Brazil or other countries but maybe you should check that before changing the date format. --Jaellee (talk) 16:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Games Convention
Can you move the article from GamesCom back to Games Convention. That are two diffrent fairs. (look at the discussion page) Thanks 141.63.56.202 (talk) 18:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅--SkyWalker (talk) 08:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Empire: Total War
Could you do me a favour and help integrate the references for the gameplay section at User:S@bre/Empire: Total War? I've finished writing the prose, and have referenced the development and most of the warfare section, but due to the fact I've also just finished a university essay I'm rather brain dead and haven't got any energy left to go through the sources on the talk page to reference the campaign section. I'd greatly appreciate it if you could do that for me, as then I can move the article out into mainspace. -- Sabre (talk) 16:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course, I want to get the article to GA at least, which means the game's got to be released. -- Sabre (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Universe at War: Earth Assault
As much as I hate to be a bother, we'd get better results if you gave me a hand instead of removing things out of hand and telling me to try again. Especially since you've worked on the article and on its reception, showing that you've more knowledgeable about the game than me. --Kiz o r  23:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Brendan Fraser
Okay, here's the issue. The Wikipedia article may say that his character is a "refugee from the Village People", but it does not give his character's name. The only source given for the quotes about this is the article from the Winnipeg Sun, which is not accessible without purchase, thus making it an invalid source. Until there is a source that his character is named "Village People", your change isn't supported. Meanwhile, this and this give the character name as Gung Ho, although at least one site (a fan forum) says differently. If you have a source that confirms that his character's name is Village People, you're going to have to provide one. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

list of terror attack 2008
I hope you don't mind, but i changed the tally on there (partly to reflect reality) which altered your version. I moved it down to reflect a "+" so we dont have to keep updating with new tallies. it is still changing in the assam blasts. Lihaas (talk) 09:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * They're from the television media, more or less as the report was coming out. Lihaas (talk) 08:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Happy Halloween!
As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 14:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Softimage
It says right in the article "The company was later bought by Microsoft in 1994". But, I see your point in that it's not owned by Microsoft anymore; I'll remove the template. Gary King ( talk ) 15:03, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto template
Don't change the new layout of the Grand Theft Auto template, it looks much better than the way it was before. VG Editor (talk) 11:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Please change the source on the Burnout Paradise article...
You changed the release date of the PC version but could you also provide a source that matches the change? It's still using my source that says "January 2009". I think you're right but I don't remember where to get the info from. SuperSonicTH (talk) 19:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

date-linking extremists
User:Tennis expert is stalking me, User:Colonies Chris and User:Lightmouse, undoing our good work. Feel free to add you weight by reverting this disruptive behaviour. Tony  (talk)  14:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No, Tennis expert is stalking us and reverting our delinkings of dates and date fragments, including corrections we make. Tony   (talk)  14:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That's an outright lie. Your incivility,  TONY, is outrageous and disruptive. Tennis expert (talk) 09:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tony   (talk)  13:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: World of Kung Fu
It was an article about a non-notable MMORPG, one of thousands just like it all over the web. "World of Kung Fu is a MMORPG that features Chinese Kung Fu (gōng fù). It was created by Vest Game Entertainment." Why do you ask? Glass  Cobra  16:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That link is a press release from the company that created the game, and would not constitute reliable, third-party coverage. Glass  Cobra  19:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

re: Elemental: War of Magic
Sorry, I know nothing about it, and I have my plate full at the moment with work on Wiki and off. Its highly unlikely I'll work on that article. -- Sabre (talk) 23:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Tennis articles
Hi Skywalker - just to let you know, Tennis expert undid a lot of your unlinkings, and I've subsequently repeated the unlinking exercise, in an attempt to bring these articles in line with the MoS, but he's now busying himself undoing my work on those articles too. Colonies Chris (talk) 12:17, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Let me know if you guys need a hand. - Dudesleeper / Talk  12:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Is Tennis expert attacking either of you, too? I'm concerned that he may have lost all sense of proportion—possibly a major depressive disorder? Perhaps we can assist him. Tony   (talk)  13:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Give it a rest. Where is your sense of perspective? I don't agree with Tennis expert on everything but he is just trying to do what's best for the encyclopedia; there is no need for this frankly derisive diagnosis. What about WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. Shouldn't they be adhered to just as strictly as WP:MOSNUM? Yohan euan o4 (talk) 01:18, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Tennis expert doesn't seem at all interested in the fact that he is single-handedly preventing the entire tennis project from getting any good or featured content. That is a problem only he can solve but ceasing his continual ownership over each and every tennis bio.  He was partly responsible for the delisting of Maria Sharapova through his ownership edits, and now the project has just one real tennis GA.  No real FAs.  Pathetic.  What's the point in being part of a Wikiproject when all your edits are about preventing articles getting to GA or FA?  What's the point in this project at all if not to create excellent, consistent articles?  Tennis expert is simply not doing what is best for the encyclopedia.  Read WP:WIAFA, point 2 - articles need to follow style guidelines.  If people are supporting the continually linking of out-of-context words and dates then this encyclopedia is going to get worse.  The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 07:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's also worth noting that, for now, the WP:MOS is clear and unambiguous - only link dates which provide useful context. The hundreds of thousands of linked dates in these tennis articles provide no context whatsoever, they are merely used for autoformatting which, per the current MOS, is deprecated.  Editors unlinking these dates are doing the right thing because that's why we have guidelines etc, to make the encyclopedia better and more consistent.  If there's a problem with this unlinking then it should be discussed somewhere appropriate, like WP:CONTEXT, and not in edit summaries, which seems to be the only way Tennis expert is prepared to communicate with those he disagrees with.  The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 07:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * So? this is still no excuse for being uncivil. You're mischaracterizing the situation on a massive scale. The issue of datelinking, which is superficial in comparison to most others, is not the reason why there are no tennis FAs or GAs, and datelinking only sprung up a month or so ago. I assure you that he is not "single-handedly preventing the entire tennis project from getting any good or featured content"; it has been a team effort. Operating within a single field and taking concern over the articles is what a lot of tennis editors, including myself, do, and it does not mean WP:OWN in this case or any other. Tennis expert usually makes productive edits towards the project and has only had to go on the defensive in the past few months (certainly not "all [of his] edits are about preventing articles getting to GA or FA" - you really think that is the intention?). When there isn't a consensus (I've seen enough to suggest that there isn't) you can't get upset when widescale bot/automated script changes meet with some dissension.
 * Also, the Sharapova article was never a GA. I've seen the version that was pushed through and it isn't good enough. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 18:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * So you are saying the information on the Sharapova talk page is wrong? It says it is a delisted GA.
 * Also, I agree that we should all be civil. I must, however, agree with The Rambling Man that Tennis Expert's continuous crusades against every policy change and/or strong and undisputable new consensus on various subjects are very counterproductive. And in my opinion it takes a form that is very incivil. --HJensen, talk 08:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

(1) Of course the information is wrong. The Sharapova article was never actually a GA. The tag that said the article was GA is clearly erroneous, as a 5 minute review of the history of the article would plainly show. (2) I have had a long dialogue with The Rambling Man, now temporarily known as The Rambling Man on tour (RMOT), only to be met with blatant hostility, incivility, threats, and intentional mischaracterizations of my intentions, not only in those dialogues, but in many other Wikipedia locations. I now have no intention of accepting his invitations (or those from others like him) to join discussions where the question is equivalent to "when are you going to stop beating your spouse" when, as he knows, I have never beat my spouse. I am not going to participate in his attempts to continue harrassing myself because no self-respecting person would. (3) I am one of many people who continue to argue, very reasonably in my opinion, that there is no consensus to delete existing date links in any Wikipedia article and that there certainly is no consensus to delete existing date links in tennis articles. See WP:TENNIS where I have discussed this thoroughly already. RMOT's assertion that I have been unwilling to discuss these issues is patently false. (4) It is ridiculous and absurd to argue that any one person can prevent an article from becoming a GA or FA. In fact, I would put my record of tennis-biography-improvement against anyone else's in English-language Wikipedia. (5) I have not engaged in a "crusade", continuous or not, against any policy change that is supported by consensus. And the incivility is entirely yours, HJensen. Rest assured that I've seen the contentious comments you've posted in various places about myself, and I'm asking you to stop. Tennis expert (talk) 10:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * One only has to read item (1) to see the arrogant incivility. Why don't you stop yourself?--HJensen, talk 11:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And yes, Tennis expert is single-handedly preventing every single tennis article becoming an FA because he refuses to allow any article to comply with the WP:MOS. Tennis expert's abject refusal to discuss whether he will allow an FA-drive to take place by not continually reverting MOS-compliant edits is a sure-fire sign of arrogance and ownership.  The tennis project is in disarray, not a single FA (besides those video game ones) for a project like that really shows that something is amiss there.  A number of editors have attempted to improve these articles to attempt to comply with MOS just to get a terse edit summary which says something like "apparently editors like it the other way".  My all-time favourite edit was the reintroduction of spaces between citations.  That was truly unbelievable.  Until Tennis expert (and, it would seem, Yohan euan o4) understand that the whole idea of wikiprojects is to improve articles (hence why Wikipedia has a number of style guidelines), then the current FA/GA total will never improve.  Tennis expert says he doesn't edit against "any policy change that is supported by consensus" - the linking of dates has been deprecated per WP:CONTEXT - that's been supported by consensus or else how would it be in the MOS?  I hope others don't give up on this project but I wouldn't be surprised.  There's nothing about the tennis project to be proud of right now.  Try looking at the way the WP:FOOTBALL or WP:CRICKET community dedicate themselves to a collaborative drive to improve articles.  They have a couple of hundred featured articles/lists.  Why is the tennis project in the doldrums?  The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 06:46, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Your nightclub is getting deleted.
See Articles for deletion/Skywalkers nightclub :) MuZemike  ( talk ) 17:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

re:Empire: Total War
Even if that wasn't copy-pasted from the official site, it would still be unacceptable. These things need to be described concisely if put in prose, not dumped in with several paragraphs worth of fan material. This is where the other Total War articles fall down, often only telling players and fans how to play it through the faction details. Wikipedia is not an instruction manual, so this sort of stuff simply doesn't belong in the article. -- Sabre (talk) 12:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Gothic 4 release
If you show me the release date confirmed on Spellbound or JoWood site (or some bigger game portals like Gamespot, IGN etc.) I'll put it back. Otherwise there should be note "TBA". Greetings :), Sir Lothar (talk) 17:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD
Why did you assume "Very Very bad faith" on my nomination of Colin McRae: Dirt 2? I think this is a perfectly reasonable nomination. The article is empty. This is why I redirected the page - I didn't think it would be controversial. Once it was reverted, I thought it would be best to hold an AfD discussion. If you look at my edit history you will see that this is not something that I'm in the habbit of doing. Please don't assume bad faith simply because someone disagrees with you.  ChimpanzeeUK  - User | Talk | Contribs 17:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It was not made in bad faith. Whether you choose to see it that way is obviously up to you but I'm telling you for a fact that I made it in good faith. As you said, the game has only just been announced so no, I wouldn't expect there to be lots of information, this is the exact reason why I suggested that the 'Sequel' section on the original game's article would be sufficient. When I did a search, it did not return what I would consider "a lot" of information. The links you posted on the AfD page suggest otherwise and I admitted that I was wrong. Why you feel the need to get so defensive about it, I have no idea. If you feel that I mis-used AfD then I would prefer it if you just told me and suggest and alternative rather than jumping to conclusions. Anyway, doen't matter. It's over now.  ChimpanzeeUK  - User | Talk | Contribs 18:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the wishes! I guess my page is watchlisted by you? :) =Nichalp   «Talk»=  15:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Retired?
What happened, buddy ?