User talk:SkyWalker/Archive 9

Happy Thanksgiving!


I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, A NobodyMy talk 02:51, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Helplines re Mumbai
Hi there, just wanted to apologise if you feel I came across too strongly in response to this. I can see from the excellent stuff you're doing elsewhere that you're adding real value, and in no way wished to imply otherwise! Cheers, John Unknown Supremo (talk) 11:57, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


A NobodyMy talk is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to their talk page with a friendly message. --A NobodyMy talk 02:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Gothic improvement drive?
Hello, I'm trying to gather up people interested in articles about Gothic, and I noticed you've done some editing to the various articles. If you'd be interested in such an endeavor, please head over to the Talk:Gothic II page and leave your thoughts. Thanks! --VPeric (talk) 19:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hanyu Pinyin official in the ROC:
Hi there... Im pushing to change the "Jhonghua Minguo" title in the ROC box to "Zhonghua Minguo", Hanyu Pinyin is now Official, right? Looking for more supporters of such a move... Cya Gumuhua (talk) 21:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

vandalism?
Hi Skywalker you mentioned that I vandalised a page (Sins of a Solar Empire) by asking for a fact and adding this to the talk page: "So is there a geniune [sic!] source for this with supporting evidence? I'll mark it up as a questionable fact. It sounds to me like the distributor, Stardock, maybe paid the production company, Ironclad Games, 1 million USD for the exclusive rights for the game? This isn't really the same thing as saying it cost 1 million USD to make. Anyone got info to add? Pbhj (talk) 18:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)" - I don't understand, it's a reasonable question isn't it? I couldn't find a trustworthy source to corroborate the production costs. Pbhj (talk) 16:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

How to use this top Indian Wikipedian list for effective collaboration
Hi, I have added a section 'How to use this list for effective collaboration' on User:Tinucherian/Indians WP page to see if we can put this list to really good use, pl give your thoughts on the same and we can take it further from there. Thanks. Vjdchauhan (talk) 18:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

WoW version
If that update was released some other date than last November, you might want to update the date as well. - Denimadept (talk) 16:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No biggie. Being Tuesday, I didn't try to connect before leaving this morning, so I was unaware. - Denimadept (talk) 17:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

ARS for Resistance 2
I don't think this is an issue for the ARS to worry about. The nom seems to be a very POINTed one but I can't figure out what tripped him to go about that. The article needs cleanup but I know it's perfectly acceptable per WP:N. (I can't speedily close it since I'm an editor of the R2 page, though) --M ASEM 16:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Smile!


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Devon Aoki
This edit was a valid edit because it was reverting an earlier bad edit. They were simply making the birth dates (intro and infobox) match. Dismas |(talk) 08:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Regardling List of Robotech Characters and character articles.
You and User:Hyperionsteel are getting quite close to an edit war. Perhaps you should talk it out? Half Shadow  03:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I sent you both the same message. I have since sent him the link you sent me. Half  Shadow  03:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

hi there
Good to see you back .. Welcome back ! --  Tinu  Cherian  - 07:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Regarding this
Please note that sources do attest to its notability, i.e. "the story most familiar with US audiences" and that is verifiable in published books. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 22:57, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of SDF-1 Macross
SDF-1 Macross has been nominated for deletion and you were involved in a previous AfD about a different article involving the same cartoon series. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Articles for deletion/SDF-1 Macross. Thank you.--Sloane (talk) 00:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Dragonball Evolution
Stop edit warring and stop trying to bloat a film article with in appropriate content. The article does NOT need a soundtrack listing, certainly not a full blown infobox which screws up the article all kinds of ways. It adds no value to the article, the soundtrack is not notable. Nor are you even formatting it or positioning it correctly if it were to have a soundtrack section. The soundtrack does not get its own article either as it completely fails WP:MUSIC in that it is completely unnotable. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 02:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Skywalker, listen to me. I will agree I maybe jumped the gun for this article. But regardless of what Collectonian is saying. This soundtrack will more than likely become notible "after" it's release. Currently I have Billboard and various film soundtrack review websites favorited on my browser. So don't worry about it and leave everything to me ;). I saved copies of those albumcovers and rationales. So again, don't worry. Sarujo (talk) 15:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy tag
Hi SkyWalker! I have removed the speedy deletion tag from List of Hitman weapons that you placed on the grounds that there were no previous AfDs for this article (or any deletions, as far as I can tell). If there was an AfD for an article with a similar title, please let me know! Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 22:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Watch your careless reverts
re:

The first had nothing to do with my error... was added whitespace, so watch yourself! Hard enough to figure out how to rephrase things without all the packed text. I was just coming back around to fix that as I hadn't found a ref to cite... confused (understandably) with Peter Woodward. So too fast too. Must be a poor life to have so much time to watch a watchlist. // annoyed


 * You are the one who should be careful. It is quite unnecessary to space everything. If i did not revert the changes someone else would revert your edits. --SkyWalker (talk) 03:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of CryEngine 3
I have nominated CryEngine 3, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/CryEngine 3. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.  Chzz  ►  19:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for Neisner's
Thanx for your help, I couldn't fathom the instructions that they gave (proabably if someone showed me I'd be on top of it)Foofbun (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

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Coraline
the EDIT was not vandalism, read the discussion before saying its vandalism.

the way the cast was displayed was improper, therefore the best way to display a cast member is a table. Coraline showed the names of the cast but Also explained the characters, which should be called (characters) not (cast). so discuss before calling it vndalism.24.249.176.77 (talk) 17:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I have read somewhere in the policy or discussion that table must not be added to the cast. What is wrong in explaining the characters look at this movies for examples The Dark Knight, Transformers and Iron Man--SkyWalker (talk) 02:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Daedalus969
You too? I see you refuse to be cowed. Good. But I refer you to this just in case you need to understand that you aren't alone. Paul Beardsell (talk) 18:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Nuts
Hey SkyWalker. Please remember that it is up to every user to deescalate conflicts to keep them from blowing up into something much larger than necessary. Calling people nuts usually doesn't help (what is meant to be) a friendly atmosphere, so if you could try to refrain from doing it if you have reasonable grounds to think they'd object to it, I'd be much obliged :) Regards, henrik  • talk  20:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Heres a note, I added the CSD template once. You removed it, and since you were the creator of the article, I added it back, as since you created the article, you are not allowed to remove it.  Further, I saw a single source, I did not see the multiple sources you put in External Links, as sources are typically put in references section, not the external links section.  If the article had multiple sources, all you had to do was tell me that, not call me crazy, which is an insult, and is expressly forbidden.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  02:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Daedalus969 i have the right to remove the csd template once a notability is established and i have done so when i created the article and added all necessary source look at the diff. There is nothing i can do if you were unable to see the sources below the external links. You have the right to check all the links to the article establish notability. If the article does not any source to establish the notability be of a kind nature and help the author to establish the notability before adding any CSD templates. Iam sorry if i called you nuts but you need to acknowledge that your are crazy :P. Just kidding. Have fun. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As the article creator you are asked NOT to remove a speedy tag, but to use the hangon tag and explain on the talk page why the article shouldn't be deleted. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ChildofMidnight you failed to understand my whole point. The CSD template is totally inappropriate for article that has enough of source. The user has failed to survey the whole article and want the whole article deleted without any discussion. Ask yourself this question why is there any need of CSD template when the article has passed notability. Why would the template still remain?. --SkyWalker (talk) 03:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I apologize if I've missed your point. Anyone can put a speedy tag on any article. And if it's an article you created, you "can't" remove the speedy tag, but anyone else can. An article won't be deleted after it is speedy tagged unless a reviewing administrator agrees with the assesment that the subject is not notable. And even if it is deleted, there's a process for having that decision reviewed and/or recreating the article. I have speedy tagged things (by mistake) that it turns out were notable and I've had things that were notable tagged and even deleted speedily by mistake. People are expected to use their best judgement, but we're dealing with humans here, for better or for worse, and we don't all have the same opinions on what constitutes notability. Even with all the many pages of guidelines, people reach different conclusions about the same content. And there's a process to deal with situations where mistakes are made. Anyway, I was trying to help. I'm sorry if I haven't been able to. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance and best of luck with all your pursuits. Have fun. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey Sky. It's definitely stressful to get speedy deletion notices. The appropriate resopnse is to post a template and an explanation on the talk page. You might also try using the template for articles that are actively under construction. Still, it's up to individual discretion whether to tag an article and the reviewing Admin whether to delete it speedily. But even content that is deleted can be recreated and moved to your userspace after a request. So you can always work on articles to better establish notability even if they do get deleted.

Many editors start article in their userspace, for example User:SkyWalker/newarticle (which you can click on and create and then use if you like) so that they aren't pestered (so to speak) by dealing with the stress of trying to establish notability while under fire :). Please let me know if you have any questions or I can be of assistance.  Take care and good luck. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Nangparbat the Vandal
This appears to be banned User Nangparbat. Also see. Thanx for keeping him undercheck

User:Hersfold/Vandal_watch

User:Thegreyanomaly/Nangparbat the evader

Wikireader41 the Vandal pov pusher
This is wikireader41 at his best i will add more diffs and reveal his agenda  86.158.237.159 (talk) 16:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

National Treasure (soundtrack)
Hi, I've restored the article National Treasure (soundtrack), per your request. You should try to address the concerns raised by the nominator, though, otherwise it's likely to be deleted by AfD. Best, – Toon (talk)  09:59, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

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Mallika Sarabhai
Upon seeing your edits to this article, I felt that it would have been better had you read the entire article. The "drum" which you removed is the election voting symbol for her. She is contesting the 2009 Indian elections from the Gandhinagar constituency. Do contact me in case of any further queries. Thank you. - Altruism T a l k - Contribs. 04:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree Mr. Advani wouldn't need a lotus on his site. What is noteworthy here is that Mr. Advani is associated with a party (also quite a mojor one) in India. So is not the case with Ms. Sarabhai who's an Independent in the first place. A lotus would fit better on BJP's homepage than Mr. Advani's. - Altruism T a l k - Contribs. 05:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Soundtracks
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How rude
Keep your petty judgment calls out of edit summaries, such as the one made here. I removed the IGN link because a news article was clearly inappropriate for that section, I did not have the confidence to remove the other sites without first checking them out - which I did not do. - hahnch e n 18:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha. How is that IGN article inappropriate to the article?. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * News articles do not feature in external links. Where used, they should be cited in references, which is why I could tell it was inappropriate without having to check it out.  The purpose of my edit, as can be clearly seen from my edit summary was not a link clearance exercise. "Ha." - hahnch e n 18:34, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I was wondering if you have checked the article before deleting. It is a interview and an important piece of information. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't check the article. Singular articles never feature in external links, because if it is important or noteworthy, they feature in the references section.  It was the only one I removed, because it was the only link I could do so without checking. If you feel that that standalone article is important, you should work it into the text. - hahnch e n 18:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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assassin's creed
There are no rules on WP - policy and guidelines are meant to guide article creation, but they're not hard-set rules (there's a reason why WP:IAR exists); policies are a little less flexible, but here's we're talking about guidelines.

As for Assassin's Creed and the normal pattern: In most video games, the story is weakly, if at all, tied to the gameplay; most FPS/TPS, platformers, and the like can be described without delving into the depths of the story, and thus because gameplay is the generallly core aspect of a video game, that should be first.

However, in the case of Asassin's Creed, there's a lot of gameplay elements that are based around the Animus (the synch ratio, how "death" works, the glitches, and the like.) It is necessary to establish this part of the work's plot in order to simplify the discussion of the entire article. (Another case would be The World Ends with You - outlining what the Reaper's Game is before going into the actual game helps to simplify the entire thing.) I agree in most cases this isn't normal, but that's why WP:VG/G is a guideline - there are allowable exceptions. --M ASEM (t) 06:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Afghan (name)

 * Need your help with persistent deletion of verifiable content on article Afghan (name)

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User interface section on Games for Windows - Live
In Games for Windows - Live, you've added an update template to the User interface section, but have not clarified what needs to be updated in the talk page. Can you please do so? That way we know what work needs to be done. Brian Reading (talk) 17:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * On my talk page you said: "Thanks for notifying. I had frequent power cuts and i lost track on what to do. :).". You also replied to a separate issue on the talk page but you didn't add any section there detailing what should be changed.  Basically, I'm still confused as to what needs to be updated. Brian Reading (talk) 20:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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Hello, thanks for visiting my talk page. Yes, I'm a somewhat regular member over at the GFW forums. My username there is the same as this one. --CoolingGibbon (talk) 10:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hi SkyWalker
... Now that you are active again, you want to consider removing the retired tag? :) -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 10:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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Uncivilized behaviour in List of Games for Windows titles
I'd like to bring into your attention that the kind of behaviour you've been having in the article —probably out of regarding yourself as a vested contributor or even its owner— is considered uncivilized and thus not acceptable by Wikipedia's policies. I thus urge you to step down and actually discuss your edits instead of imposing them, stop calling other people's edits "pointless", "unnecessary" and "silly", and refrain yourself from responding to people in this tone. --uKER (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Look mister. Don't tell me what to do. If you are going to update everytime then fine. I want the article to be updated. I don't want things to keep changing constantly such has changing dates. It is a big nuisance. I want to stop adding rubbish in talk page. Also btw iam not all trying to be owner of the article. Iam not sure what to call such edits like this this and this. They are certainly pointless. What exactly are you trying to achieve?. Do you plan updating whenever the game is going to get released?. When the article get larger this will sort of work will cease to exist. Instead of wasting time try to improve articles and get a job in the real life. This is all i can say. If you plan of keeping the changes you done. Then you or anyone can take care of the article. Iam plan of leaving wikipedia has i lot of duties to perform in real life. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC) (Copied here by UKER for the sake of conversation traceability)

I see you're just thoughtlessly rebutting every attempt I'm making to bring you into your senses, here and in the talk page. It's not me telling you what to do. It's the way Wikipedia works. There's guidelines. You're imposing a layout in the article that doesn't make sense and everybody is saying it in the article's discussion. The rules say you can't assume ownership of an article, which means if most other people agree on making a change, you'll have to abide by it, or at least PROPOSE otherwise. I'd suggest you reconsider your attitude. BTW, please reply here and not in my talk page. --uKER (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Update after you edited your message: you're complaining about us disrupting YOUR TASK OF UPDATING THE ARTICLE. That is the whole point of assuming ownership of it. Rest assure the article will stay updated no matter what. About you saying you'll leave Wikipedia, any of this ring a bell? --uKER (talk) 19:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Fine then. Thank you. I removing the article from the watchlist. Regarding Divas. You got it confused. Iam staying in wikipedia just to update List of Games for Windows titles nothing else to be honest. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC) (Copied here by UKER for the sake of conversation traceability)

I see you won't even agree to answer to me here. Very mature of you. Well, if it's you decision to leave the article, so be it. Nobody is requiring that you do, but if it's either owning it or leaving it, you'll have to understand that owning it is not an option here. Regards. --uKER (talk) 19:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Iam not sure what answer should i give you. Look at the history of the article tell me how frequently the article is getting updated. Iam not sure how policy such has OWN has any effect what i was doing. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC) (Copied here by UKER for the sake of conversation traceability as user refuses to reply in the same talk page)

WP:OWN states assumption of ownership is constituted when: About the article not getting updated, it may be true that you have updated it more often than it would otherwise, but that doesn't give you the right to overrun the opinions of all the other people participating in it. Again, see WP:NVC. Now, for the third time, should you decide to reply again, will you please do it HERE, in YOUR talk page, and not mine? --uKER (talk) 19:42, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) An editor disputes minor edits concerning layout, image use, and wording in a particular article daily. The editor might claim the right, whether openly or implicitly, to review any changes before they can be added to the article. (This does not include egregious formatting errors.)
 * 2) Article changes by different editors are reverted by the same editor repeatedly over an extended period to protect a certain version, stable or not.