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Making an article on Art Brut
Hi there! I read the Teahouse regularly to expand my broad knowledge of policies etc in action, and saw your recent post. I was surprised, because I've definitely heard of Art Brut before, and with the broad coverage en.wiki has at this point, I would have assumed it would be covered!

If you're planning to whip up a draft, I'd love to offer collaborative help. So far I have not worked on drafts, other than offering copyediting to other users on drafts they sought feedback for. However, I'd love to take the next step towards creating original and useful article content here. It would be a lot less intimidating to do so in collab with someone who has created articles and knows what they're doing! 😅

I have many years' experience as an English editor for hire, and went to library school so most of the policies and guidelines (notability, RSes, consensus processes) make tons of sense to me. I guess it's just the actual steps that aren't clear, so I'm curious what you've done in your past article creation.

Do you sit down and search for a handful of Reliable Source information items that cover the subject sufficiently to establish notability, then start drafting in your user sandbox? Is Google Scholar a good jumping off point, or somewhere else?

I am happy to help make Art Brut as a draft and see it through to publication, helping in any way that I can! And if you are too busy or not interested, that's cool too- just let me know. Figured I would propose the awesome team-up as I'm fond of en.wiki's sustained community focus ☺️

Best wishes, have a great day! Chiselinccc (talk) 04:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hey, Absolutely! Let's collaborate. Do you want to start? I usually populate draft versions with content from another page so that the layout is the same. Then i delete and replace with relevant content. It's been my work around. I can start the draft page if you'd like. Slacker13 (talk) 23:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Chiselinccc here is a link to the Draft Article page: Draft:Art Brut Slacker13 (talk) 23:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Slacker13 awesome, thanks so much for getting this started! I am getting my desktop environment set up today and later on, I'll review the original content section from Outsider Art as well as your draft, then do a little literature review and share my findings (and any questions that arise) in the draft Talk page tonight.
 * Thanks again for welcoming collaboration, it feels so much easier to "break through" the mental barrier of developing new content alongside a teammate who's already walked this path 😅 Cheers! Chiselinccc (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I've populated the page with content from the "Outsider Art" page for formatting purposes. Now we need to add and replace content and sources. Slacker13 (talk) 23:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Ooh, way ahead of me then on the Outsider Art content- I'll catch myself up and then go looking for additional, notability-worthy RS options as well as coverage that identifies what else we might want to include in this initial draft. Hurrah! Chiselinccc (talk) 23:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Also -- just briefly looking through it, maybe it's a separation job -- meaning much of the content is Art Brut -- maybe we separate into two different articles, like move Art Brut content to Art Brut page and make the "Outsider Art" page smaller and more well defined. Just a thought. Slacker13 (talk) 23:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * that's fine. I forget that I made this placeholder page. Will remake when i have time to flesh out the article.. Slacker13 (talk) 22:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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that's fine. I forget that I made this placeholder page. Will remake when i have time to flesh out the article.

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 * Thanks for reaching out regarding the images I've uploaded. May I ask why you think there are free alternatives for each image? I was unable to find free alternatives which is why they are uploaded as non-free use with the copyright holder named (some of which are no longer living). Legally, in the US, images of public persons can be used for educational use as long as they are NOT published with the intent of commercial applications. Slacker13 (talk) 21:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for reaching out regarding the images I've uploaded. May I ask why you think there are free alternatives for each image? I was unable to find free alternatives which is why they are uploaded as non-free use with the copyright holder named (some of which are no longer living). Legally, in the US, images of public persons can be used for educational use as long as they are NOT published with the intent of commercial applications. Slacker13 (talk) 21:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for reaching out regarding the images I've uploaded. May I ask why you think there are free alternatives for each image? I was unable to find free alternatives which is why they are uploaded as non-free use with the copyright holder named (some of which are no longer living). Legally, in the US, images of public persons can be used for educational use as long as they are NOT published with the intent of commercial applications. Slacker13 (talk) 21:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Pictures of people
I don't know if this will interest you at all, but I like to add a lead image if possible, and have in some cases managed to do so... when the person is not L: Marian Ewurama Addy, Mercedes Richards, Santo Trafficante Sr., Sylvia Lefkovitz etc.

Rarely but it happens, I've encountered the article subject on WP, asked them to provide an image, and they did. Some will probably balk when they read the "not just for WP" terms. I think some Wikipedians have successfully reached out to article subjects off-WP, asking for an image, but I've never tried that. In some cases, like Nicôle Lecky, it was possible to get a pic from a YT-video that was uploaded with a free license. Maybe this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:09, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Brilliant idea, and very helpful. Thank you. Will reach out to the subjects. If the subject provides you with an image, it still has copyright though, yes? How is it then uploaded / added to the system? Slacker13 (talk) 14:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This should help: A picture of you. Basically, you can upload a selfie of yourself on Commons, so can anybody else. You can also upload pictures you have taken yourself with your own camera, so can anybody else. You can also upload such pictures on your private website, marking them with a Commons-acceptable license then anyone can upload them on Commons. It's possible for copyright holders (usually the photographer) to license pics to Commons via mail contact, more on that here:. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Sometimes, you just get lucky: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gråbergs Gråa Sång-- so incredibly helpful. Thank you! I mean it!! Slacker13 (talk) 13:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * thanks! I appreciate the time looking at it! Slacker13 (talk) 17:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Slacker13. You proposed deletion for a lot of articles in a short amount of time with a generic rationale (does not meet notability requirements) and no evidence that you have looked for sources as required by WP:BEFORE, or even considered sources that were already in the article. For example Jack Brogan cites a New York Times obituary, which is unambiguous evidence of notability. The majority of these nominations have been contested by me or other editors. Please slow down and make a good faith effort to look for potential sources before nominating articles for deletion. Thanks! Jfire (talk) 04:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the prod. Just going through the visual artists stub category one by one so this is what it looks like I'm doing significant tags in a short period of time. As I go through the stubs list there are so so many, well stubs or orphans and many lack "significant coverage" and this last part I guess I'm taking rather literally. For historical or deceased persons it's more difficult to find coverage, but for living persons -- please note that I actually am doing searches to check for viability and coverage in articles and books and most fall far far shorter than WP notability requirements of "significant coverage" which I understand to mean more than one or two articles. I agree, I might have missed the mark on Jack Brogan, but I think that was a personal opinion issue. Is the fabricator of other people's works notable? That's a rhetorical question for myself. Thank you for your time and your comments are heard. Slacker13 (talk) 13:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey, I took a look at a few of your noms. I agree with Jfire here, WP:PROD (especially without a thorough WP:BEFORE is usually not the best way to deal with articles that the level of sourcing here. After doing a search, if you're still unable to find any coverage I'd suggest you open AfDs for these instead. One thing to keep in mind is to look in places you would expect sources to be (for example, a 1920's era police chief is not gonna get any online news hits, but they might have a ton of newspaper entries in their city paper, a researcher might not have news hits but may have many, well cited, papers), if you can't find them after looking there, mention it in the deletion rationale (which will strengthen your case). Source: I've learned this the hard way. Hope I can help a fellow AfDer out. Allan Nonymous (talk) 04:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I appreciate it. Truly. Your comments are heard. Slacker13 (talk) 01:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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