User talk:Slademaurer

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Speedy deletion nomination of HDL Complexity Tool
A tag has been placed on HDL Complexity Tool requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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Stop recreating this article; it has already been deleted twice, and apparently you haven't read the reasons above that explain why. If you continue violating copyrights by copying and pasting external website text into Wikipedia articles, your account will be blocked from editing. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 18:43, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009
This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you create an inappropriate page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ttonyb1 (talk) 18:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.

Can I assume that you are the same person as Sourceforge? If so, you are - I am certain accidentally - in breach of wikipedia policy by creating another account while blocked. Please do two things. Firstly, go back to your original account name ans apply for a username change. Secondly, and after that is approved, and assumimg that you wish to re-create this article, read and follow guidance in WP:COPYVIO.--Anthony.bradbury"talk" 19:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all, Slademaurer, you had ample opportunity to post a message here explaining that you own the site, but you refused to respond to messages until after you were blocked. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and ignoring other users in that way is unacceptable.
 * Secondly, copying and pasting external text to write an article is still generally unacceptable, even if you own the copyright. There are several reasons for this&mdash;it's lazy writing, it reflects poorly on the encyclopedia, and text written on your website is not likely to adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines (specifically the neutrality guideline and the manual of style). r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 19:22, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I did not create another user account (Sourceforge) and I believe the account that you are pointing me to was created by one of our users or maybe even a developer. This HCT wiki article is of interest to our little community at the moment and hotly debated. As I said before, I only created it to help others have a "typical" research flow.

I am not sure about the ample opportunity claim being made. What I recall is that for some reason my page was removed and then it asked me to put some text in the page to tell you guys about it. I kept looking for help on how to certify the content is in fact mine.

I was trying to figure it out, update the page with the tag and before I knew it I had been permanently blocked! Now that I review the history, I see that I had a few strikes, but the experience seemed like confusion truncated with getting evicted permanently. In fact, I was completely confused by the wiki user page concept for collaborating on problems and I only figured it out after I was blocked. It stings when I am told I was intentionally ignoring users and find that a bit concerning since that is something I take seriously on my projects!

I am not a lazy writer and wanted to simply reformat some of the information in a different way. Then allow the sections on the references and research to grow on their own. I did not really need to drive traffic to the HCT site to look up basic things. My belief is to keep it simple for users and they should be able to get accurate data from the wiki page on its own. Maybe I misunderstand the Wikipedia, but from articles that I read I think we have the same vision.

I request that you remove my block because this was an obvious misunderstanding. I took from the comments made above that I should not create a page about my own project and it sounds like only users are supposed to do it (not even developers?). If I do get access again, I will carefully edit articles with original content and will not create any pages that are for any project that I contribute to or create. I would like to contribute to a HCT page when someone does get around to creating one.

If you do allow me to edit again and you do permit me to create the article then I would like to do so. I can simply point to the HCT web site for the summarized information and so forth. The original content can be kept generic enough that it does not require the specifics from the HCT web site. I don't think this is quite as useful to the end user that reads the article, but does avoid the problems that I just encountered.

I am not sure if there is a way for me to get you to review my page prior to publishing it? I see the user sandboxes are there, but it does not appear that a page is reviewed by you until it is published. Is that right? If so, I am loath to get jammed up in this situation again and would like to know how others go about it. I am sure you'll point me to a doc and tell me RTFM, but I don't see that anywhere -- sorry.

Also, if I understand correctly this blocking is for the rest of time? I am forbidden to ever engage or work on any Wikipedia material for as long as I live? Can you please clarify that. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slademaurer (talk • contribs) 17:16, 20 July 2009


 * Responses to several of your points... first of all, "indefinite block" does not mean you're blocked forever. It means you're blocked until someone feels you can be unblocked; in this case, that generally means once you demonstrate sufficient understanding of Wikipedia policies and once administrators trust that you won't violate policies, someone may be willing to unblock you.
 * As for your proposal for the article you'd like to create... first of all, you should familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's general notability policy. Wikipedia does not allow articles about just anything; there can only be articles about concepts or things that can be demonstrated to be significant and, more importantly, that have been the focus of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources.
 * If you intend to create an article that does nothing but link to your HCT site (as you suggested with "I can simply point to the HCT web site for the summarized information and so forth"), it will surely be deleted, because it will look like advertising or web hosting, which Wikipedia is not meant for (see What Wikipedia is not, one of the most useful summaries of Wikipedia policy). Because of your position with HCT, it is very unlikely that you would be allowed to write a full, unvetted article about it; Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines say more about this.
 * As for creating a page for review prior to publishing, this is possible. You would just create a user subpage (something like User:Slademaurer/HCT, for example), and create the article there; then just agree not to move it into article space until you've requested a review from an experienced user. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 18:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I see that I misused Wikipedia based on the link you gave me. I did not intend to and it was in the vein of "gee, someone should just go and create that page then" during HCT community discussion.


 * Furthermore, if a HCT Wikipedia entry is to be created then let it be done -- but I won't do it. My doing it, no matter how well intentioned, violates the rules of the Wikipedia. I'm better off working on a forthcoming paper on the tool and hopefully a conference topic as a venue for discussion. This is not the right place for that and I apologize for my misuse of the Wikipedia.


 * I humbly request that you unblock me and I'll use the Wikipedia as it is intended. I understand how to request an expert review prior to publication of an article and will be sure to do so before submitting any articles in the future. This will prevent a scenario such as this from reoccurring. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slademaurer (talk • contribs)


 * I have unblocked you because it seems you've taken time to familiarize yourself with the policy (it's a lot to read, I know). Just for clarification, you don't need to request a review every time you want to create a new article (I have created probably 100 articles, and never asked anyone to review them beforehand); this is just something special for if you're creating an article with which you might have a conflict of interest, a non-neutral point of view, etc. If you were to write a new article on, say, some person from Bulgarian history, you wouldn't need to have it reviewed beforehand.
 * Also, by the way, whenever you leave a message on a talkpage (like this one), please remember to sign your post by typing ~ at the end. (This will leave your username and a link to your talk page, so people can reach you more easily.) Thanks, r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 19:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Slademaurer (talk) 17:55, 24 July 2009 (UTC)