User talk:Slambo/Archive 0610

Seattle, Lake Shore, & Eastern Maps
Slambo, I have maps for the Seattle, Lake Shore, & Eastern. The Washington Territory map, showing all built and proposed lines, I have as scans from the map included in the Ruffner 1889 book published by the SLS&E. The book has smaller maps of downtown Seattle and Spokane, showing the lines in question. How should I go about getting them added? I believe the copyright of the maps is no longer applicable, since the book is 117 years old.

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Rapid Transit bot
Do you know who used a bot to update New York City Subway talk pages? The form of the template inserted by the bot was TrainsWikiProject. Rather than "Subway=yes", it should have been "NYCS=yes". Further complicating matters, some of the hand-edited pages (the minority) have both "NYCS=yes" and "Subway=yes". The reality is that the NYC Subway pages should say just "NYCS=yes". If you are the maintainer of the bot, can you fix this? If you are not the maintainer of the bot, can you direct me to the right person? Marc Shepherd 13:18, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Subway station ratings
This is somewhat of a peripheral topic for me, but I thought I would make an observation. The New York City Subway project made a decision to create a separate article for every station. For some of those stations, there simply isn't a whole lot to say. By their nature, some of these articles are never going to be very long. In my view, virtually all of them are beyond stub status, (including many that still have residual stub tags that have not been removed, but should be). The correct rating in nearly every case is either "start" or "B". I think that if you re-read the definitions of the ratings, you'll see that this is the case. Many of the WikiProjects assign both quality and "importance" to each article. This might be a useful way to indicate that some articles, by their nature, are never going to have much meat to them.

By the way, the substantive content in nearly all of these articles has come from other people, so I am not taking your ratings personally. I just think it hampers the utility of what you are trying to achieve when you call too many things stubs that are not stubs. Marc Shepherd 20:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the detailed response, all of which seems quite sensible. I'm happy to contribute to a discussion about "Importance" once you decide that you're ready to tackle it.


 * I've just one additional observation. Before I started working on the New York City Subway articles, people involved with the project adopted a convention of listing their references under "External links" if their source was a website – which for the subway they usually are. I have seen this elsewhere in Wikipedia, although I am aware it's not the dominant usage. I do realize that this convention makes it impossible to tell whether a linked site was the actual source of the information, or if it's just an "FYI" to the reader, but this is what they did. So most of the articles that appear to have no reference sources, in reality do have them. Marc Shepherd 21:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Template:LabourProject (again!)
Hi Slambo. I've just reworked the LabourProject to include the importance class for the assessment project. As you cleaned up my last gaffs; if you have a moment would you take a peek at it to see if it looks OK? I replaced a lot of the code with a copy from the WP Australia - it seemed like the cleanest writing to me. Thanks. Chris --Bookandcoffee 19:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It appears to be working fine, but my (cough) programming abilities definitely need the extra scrutiny. :) --Bookandcoffee 20:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Shortcuts
I just want to check with you. Is it okay that i have been creating shortcuts to the various Trains Projects? I can't think of one currently for streetcars. Also i chose WP:TWP to mean Trains WikiProject. Simply south 17:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I've done WP:TRAM for WP:Streetcars, just to let you know. Simply south 10:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Transcontinental railroad
Hi Sean,

I'd appreciate it if you could weigh-in on this discussion. Thanks!--Lord Kinbote 06:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

re: Tom Thumb (locomotive)
I dropped a message on the "offender's" talk page. I'm afraid that what we have here is his own paper that he intends to publish. Mangoe 12:33, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


 * If you look at his addition it specifically refers to a paper as yet unpublished. Personally I found the added material very slightly interesting for some of the peripheral material, but unlikely to resolve itself into an actual encyclopedia article. Mangoe 13:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

CFD notice on News by month categories
This is a courtesy notice that some categories that you have created have been placed up for deletion here. If you still have an interest in these categories, please come and give input, pro or con, to the discussion. - TexasAndroid 21:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the derail image
Thank you for adding the image in the derail article. Mangoe 13:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

West Side and Mendocino Railroad - Fruto California
I have a map of this line on my website www.genealogysf.com - the Fruto project.

Fruto Willows area railroad lines – “Railroad Atlas of North America, California and Nevada”, Mike Walker, Steam Powered Publishing, Dawes Road, Dunkirk, Faversham, Kent, UK, 1994. Used with permission.

I'm sure if you asked them they would grant permission to include it in Wikipedia. They were very pleasant about it when I asked them for permission for my site. brian at at brianbonner dot dot net

WikiProject Philately
You must have noticed my update message on the WikiProject Philately page of the philately portal that I have decided to get moving with the previous owner seems to have dropped out of the scene. You were of course correct I should have used an internal link. Have you considered joining the project as you indicate on your user page some interest in philately? Cheers ww2censor 15:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well go ahead and join up if you think you can contribute. There are not too many of us and some seem to have dropped out. If there were some more philatelic related images then maybe we could use the Railway post office article as a selected article in a month or so. BTW I had seen the Pioneer Zephyr covers before on the cover] page. Do you have any British TPOs as that article needs some work. Cheers ww2censor 20:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

207.216.84.37 - last warning
Hi Slambo, 207.216.84.37 has vandalised another page, HMS Prince of Wales (1939) which I've fixed, but I noticed that on their talk page you'd already given them a final warning. They've stepped over your line. Is it time to kick them out?

Kind regards, Andy Wade 17:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

OK thanks for that, I'm a bit new here myself, and I just thought you should know what it's up to. Looking at it's contributions, I'd say it was a good case for blacklisting, but I guess I'm thinking more of what I'd do on my websites/email server etc. Andy Wade 19:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)