User talk:Slambo/Archive 0804

Template help?
Also asked at TSW - ignore if you see there first!

Hi Slambo,

Could I possibly ask for your help in debugging some templates at my Wikia Wiki?

I need help in fixing Template:Infobox, Template:Infobox Public transit, Template:Infobox Bus transit and Template:Ambox. Luckily i remembered that TSW have a "nice" version of Infobox Rail for the articles that call that!

Thanks in anticipation of your help, but only pop over if you have time! (I can also give you sysop rights if you want them...)

 BG  7   15:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll try to check in over there sometime soon. I'm in school on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday evenings and I still work during the day, so it may be a little longer than I would like. Slambo (Speak)  15:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok Slambo,
 * Just pop over whenever you can - it's much appreciated!
 *  BG  7   15:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Woops - meant Template:Navbox] instead of Ambox! That also goes for Template:Historic UK Trams aswell... hope you don't mind?
 *  BG  7   16:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Slambo,
 * Quick update if you don't mind?:
 * The infobox templates should really look like wikia:c:trams:Template:Infobox rail if you can do that!
 * The navbox issue is also on wikia:c:trams:Template:UK light rail and extends to all related templates. We have change Historic UK trams for now, but would like to revert in the future as we would like it to collapse!
 * Finally, wiki:c:trams:Template:Stub has some random code in it that I can't get rid of!
 * I hope you don't mind helping me out Slambo, but please do it whenever your able - it's low priority!
 * Rewards (probably in the form of barnstars with you being in America and be being in the UK!) will be given!
 * Thanks,
 *  BG  7   15:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

FA Review
TGV has been nominated for FA review. As I see you're one of the main editors, I think you should be notified. Noble Story (talk) 02:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

April GA Newsletter
The April issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is now available. Dr. Cash (talk) 04:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Edinburgh April 08
Atention all trainwikiproject images taskforce members. I am off to Edinburgh tomorrow (8th April) and I am taking my digital camera if there are any pictures needed only from Edinburgh Waverley railway station then please contact me before 9pm tonight because after that time I am getting ready for the trip. Thanks: en:user:Britishrailclass43 My talk page can be accessed through the images taskforce list.- Thanks Britishrailclass43 (talk) 13:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

San Joaquins - thanks!
...--NapoliRoma (talk) 18:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Acela menu moved
I agree the menu didn't belong on Amtrak, but found that there's an Acela page, so I put it there. Whether it belongs there or not, I'll leave to someone else. - Denimadept (talk) 20:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Uw-trivia
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Speedy deletion of Image:110-1063 IMG.JPG
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De Dion Bouton
I was just sorting out the refs when you beat me to it! Great mind think alike, eh? Mjroots (talk) 15:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've just sorted out that issue of a ref for every sentence. If there are four sentences with the same reference, then it only needs the reference at the end of the fourth sentence, not every one! Mjroots (talk) 15:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Wilsonville Station
Thanks for your work on the article with the conversions and finding a more descriptive future template. Now you do realize the the citation templates are simply crutches for people who do not know how to properly format a citation, right? So you really didn't need to add those. Further, when you do, you should not leave the article worse off, as the publication names are no longer italicized, and every style guide I've ever used calls for italics for newspaper names. So, when you have a chance, could you go back and rectify this? Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The use of citation templates is preferred by many editors in WikiProject Trains and subprojects for uniform and consistent presentation of references. Their use also simplifies coding for bots when changes need to be made on a wide scale as the information is saved in a standard format within the article text.  We defer to the discussions on the individual templates for the proper rendering and display of reference information using these templates.  I'll check my copy of the MLA guide when I get home; this is something that should be brought up on the template talk pages if it hasn't already been.  Slambo (Speak)  20:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Trains does not own the article. This article was not created by a trains person, and after this experience I don't think I would want to assist a project like that, where they think their style should override written Wikipedia wide style guidelines. They do not get to impose standards that are in contravention of WP:CITE:
 * "The use of citation templates is neither encouraged nor discouraged. Templates may be used or removed at the discretion of individual editors, subject to agreement with other editors on the article. Because templates can be contentious, editors should not change an article with a distinctive citation format to another without gaining consensus." (emphasis in the original)
 * The citation template is working fine, because not all style guides would add italics to the publisher part, as the publisher is normally not the newspaper name, but the name of the company. For instance the Oregonian Publishing Company is the publisher of The Oregonian so the newspaper is italicized, not the publisher. Again, that's why I don't use the templates, I just format them in the proper format. If you compare the original version to the version there now you should notice that the order of the information is exactly the same. I think that would be the "uniform and consistent presentation of references" you seek. But again, this is not a trains article anymore than it is an Oregon article, which is why one project does not impose its standards on articles, since most articles have multiple projects they fall under. Which is where WP:CITE comes in as a uniform standard, which talks of this very issue as I quoted above. Citation templates are simply crutches for those who need help properly formatting a citation. If you don't want to wait till you get home here is the MLA style on line. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I never tried to claim ownership of the article, I was just explaining why I made the change; WP Trains doesn't own the article, neither does WP Oregon. Looking at the template again, it appears that using the work= parameter instead of publisher= does what you want it to. Slambo (Speak)  10:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK
-Susanlesch (talk) 06:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Camden Yards station
Hello Slambo, I've just finished expanding this article in the area of B&O construction and operations 1856-1980s (ie. pre-MARC). It is better than a stub now.

One question, though, pertains to the article title. It seems to me that Camden Station would be better than the current title. From 1856 to the present, under B&O and now MARC, it is only called Camden Station in their timetables and all other company references. Only the light rail operator chooses to call their stop "Camden Yards", after the nearby Orioles baseball stadium. I'd like to rename it accordingly over the redirect. Your thoughts?  JGHowes talk  -  22:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Slambo, for your reply. I still think that, as a railroad station, the article should be titled according to the historically accurate station's name and as presently listed in the serving railroad (MARC) schedule, not the MTA's light rail stop. But I can understand that the nearby Camden Yards ballpark is certainly more familiar nowadays as a prominent landmark. Anyway, I've proposed renaming the article at Talk:Camden Yards station to see if maybe there's consensus in support of this change.  JGHowes talk  -  15:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Template help?
Hi Slambo,

Did you have chance to look at those temps?

It's appreciated!

 BG  7   16:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok Slambo,
 * Thanks a lot!
 * As for TSW, as far as I know, there have'nt been any updates - but then again, theres been tiny levels of activity. We've had one FanFic issue, and that's about it!
 * Thanks,
 *  BG  7   18:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Map for High-speed railway to Jerusalem article
Hi, it appears that you requested a map for the High-speed railway to Jerusalem. I have created a map, hopefully this fulfills your request. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 17:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Permission
Hi Slambo, I'm writing a paper for a course that deals with credibility of online users and how credibility is established in the context of online communities. I've come across your user page and would really appreciate permission from you to be able to use your "profile page" as the document I'm analyzing in my paper. I'd love to tell you more about it if you're interested. Is there a better way we could communicate, possibly by email? Shan3186 (talk) 00:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)