User talk:Sllamky01

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I notice in both your edits on Shi and William Tucci that you removed all the links and formatting (as well as categories and some external links on Shi). While we appreciate people adding material you should avoid doing this as it only has to be added back in. I have done this by hand on Shi and by reverting your edits and adding the paragraph you added back in. Please read through the links in the welcome message and especially the Manual of Style. Thanks. (Emperor 22:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC))


 * Could you stop removing the (perfectly valid) links (internal and external), categories and formatting from Shi. Doing it after I've pointed it out to you is bordering on vandalism. Doing it again after my underlining the issue now would cross the line. If you don't understand page formatting and the like then it is outlined in the the Manual of Style and I'd be happy to help you with any questions you have on the finer points and/or point you to good example pages. If you require a second opinion please take it up on the Comics Project talk page. (Emperor 01:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC))


 * I see you have reverted my edits. This brings us up to WP:3RR which is now a more serious issue. In your last revert you commented "the links will be added back as I finish the compleat edit of the page." This isn't the way you edit a page - you can't just remove valid links, categories and formatting like that. I got your email (I'll reply here so the discussion is available to all editors) but I'm afraid it doesn't matter that the author has given you the infromation (other than it might bring in neutral points of view issues) you still have to try and work within the system. If you want to mock up a new version of a page as a work in progress then you can use your sandbox. You can't go doing this in the wild. As edits on the page are now bordering on breaking the rules I have raised this issue on the Comics Project page. Please don't re-edit the page until this is sorted out. (Emperor 01:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC))


 * Thanks for the email. Again I'll reply here so everyone is on the same page. I am happy to help with whatever you need to do, although you seem to be doing OK on the main Tucci entry - the key is to work with what you have rather than wiping the slate clean and building up from there (unless there are severe problems with things - which is not the case here). A couple of things from the email:
 * "The information that I would like to share is all comeing from Billy Tucci. witch I think it would be harder to find a better sorce for the info." People do edit their own entries or pass on information for people to add. The issue that can arise is one of maintaining a Neutral point of view. Not difficult to do but there can be casue for concern.
 * "there are a few things that are incorrect in the opening statements of the Shi page. how is it best to go about making the changes so they do not have to get edited back." Given where we are at perhaps the best idea might be if you told me what the incorrect information is and we can work form there. The key thing is not to just wipe out what was there before - your previous edits were removing external links and categories for no good reaosn - such things are important for Wikipedia (external links help fulfill verfibilkity guidelines) and shouldn't be removed for no good reason. Equally internal links and formatting were removed - these help make the page more usable for the reader and while they can be removed if used wrongly these weren't. Previously when I've encountered "clean slate" editting the editor was doing something unusual (like copying the text to a word processing document and then updating the entry from that even when the entry had moved on inbetween). You are best advised to edit the entry as it is, live.
 * As I say best for now if you tell me what you think is wrong and we can start from there. If you have any specific concerns or questions then feel free to ask them (might as well as them here as I have the page on my watchlist)> (Emperor 18:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC))


 * Thanks for the email again I'll reply here (you can reply here if you want. On the points you raised:
 * If it is no longer being published by Avatar then I'll just take out that bit from the start. However, the Avatar link and category needed to stay - a lot of these creator-owned titles go through various publishers and the links and cats aren't just for the current one.
 * Given the various publishers I agree it is a good idea to mentioned what was published when in the bibliography/publications section.
 * I doubt there will be a need to forward me the original email unless there is some kind of disagreement of the interpretation of some wording or some such (seems unlikely).
 * The Bad girl link should stay. Tucci might not like/want the association but it is included in that general field by other people (see the main entry on this) and so I suspect this is a point where NPOV comes into play. Feel free to raise this on the talk page but for now it stays.
 * Hope that helps. I'll go and tweak the entry based on some of the things that came up. (Emperor 00:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC))

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