User talk:Sluzzelin/Archive 13

Note
This edit summary is a lie. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:32, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It would be a lie, if I had written it with the intention of deceiving whoever reads it, but that wasn't my intention. Calling you a supernanny was perhaps unnecessary and gratuitous, but not a lie. It accurately describes my perception of (some of) your behaviour at the reference desks. ---Sluzzelin talk  13:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And my better choice of words would have been "falsehood". Perhaps you've not been stalked by IP's as I have. If that's the case, consider yourself lucky. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I do consider myself lucky, and don't envy you for that kind of abuse at all. (Anyway, I like nannies) ---Sluzzelin talk  14:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That nanny, we can agree on. :) :) :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:17, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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 * sur-Seine]], Burgundy) buried with an 1100 litre (290 gallon) bronze [krater], the largest ever found.

Stop
Why did you delete my language question? --Askinghall (talk) 18:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * March 2014, September 2013, probably more, too lazy to search. I'll stop. Will you? ---Sluzzelin talk  18:51, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Readers
Just to say it was a pleasure to discover your collection of paintings of readers. One of my eternal favorites is this one by Eastman Johnson. I used to visit her from time to time. I miss her now that I live too far away. Writegeist (talk) 19:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've been meaning to expand/refresh/rotate the gallery, just too lazy as usual, but I found Woman Reading on Commons and added her to the top row. I love perambulating readers! (That was me at a certain age walking home from school, and when I had to take our dog for a walk, I'd be reading all the way to the first bench on the top of the hill, sit down and read while letting her run around, and read all the way back home again! (hope my mother isn't reading). I guess nowadays it's people walking and staring at their phones when they're not stuck to their ears. ---Sluzzelin talk  20:08, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Writegeist, I had a chance to see her (and another reader :-). Thanks again. ---Sluzzelin talk  21:56, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

What's AR?
A recent edit summary of yours: "actually, nm, I think I mis-got the joke, there will be plenty of more occasions to wind up m with AR". What's AR? Contact Basemetal here 17:16, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ayn Rand. ---Sluzzelin talk  17:27, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Breeches not trousers I think
Greetings Sluzzelin. Thanks for your help at the RD. In the painting I would say Catherine the Great is wearing breeches not trousers. Contact Basemetal   here  19:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Goodness, are you saying I picked The Wrong Trousers??? ---Sluzzelin talk  20:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Most European languages make the same distinction I believe e.g. French pantalons vs. culottes. Contact Basemetal   here  20:13, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Happy now? ---Sluzzelin talk  22:20, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Made my day Btw if you want to watch Wallace and Gromit again it's on YouTube (for a short time only I'm sure). Contact  Basemetal   here  22:42, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I wonder what's in the box?


Merry Christmas from Santa's little helpers! What can it be? A royal pie? A toy car? A stuffed camel? A guitar? Fireworks? A stink bomb? darwin fish,   darwin bish  BITE   ☠  12:45, 21 December 2014 (UTC).

(What would you like it to be?)


 * Ha ha ha, you're a vile one, Cindy Lou Who, but I'll take the last two, put them together, light a match, watch it spread, my soul being full of gunk, crying out the magic words "Stink! Stank! Stunk!". ---Sluzzelin talk  13:40, 21 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Apologies for addressing you as Cindy Lou, dear Darwinishes. I was under the faulty impression that your edit was a reaction to another edit of mine to another editor, whom I thought to be identical to you and you. But now I've seen her refer to one of you in the third person and disrespectfully ...
 * I love that selection. The royal pie really fascinates me, up close there's so much life in it - the fireworks are beautiful, you picked one of the few car models for whom I have a soft spot, stuffed camels ... hmmm, ... Thank you dearest of all Darwinishes, and have yourselves a happy season! ---Sluzzelin talk  23:38, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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regarding the AGF hat
you have to remember that this is explicit wikipedia policy. The OP actually asked about the level of racism in French culture, which is high. I found nothing trollish about the OP's questions. I share the perspective of everyone else on the thread, but I am following WP policy, assuming good faith, and not letting people start attacking a genuine poster's character. The questions stand on their own and have been answered. let's not let the thread derail into trolls. (as you can see happening several times.) 212.96.61.236 (talk) 01:17, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with you in principle (though I admit to not being a fan of hatting in general, but your hatting was clearly not disruptive and that it was made not only in good faith but admirably was obvious to me). I don't speak Indonesian or Malay, but I checked with several dictionaries and, combined with what little I do understand, Nil Einne's translation looks spot on (moreover, I don't view him as someone who is quick to assume bad faith either).
 * Isn't it okay to inform editors what a querent's user name means in English, particularly when it's derogatory? I won't comment on France's racism in comparison with other countries, but don't I get to be informed that I might be spending my time researching and answering a question posted by someone with a name that is insulting by faulty generalization? ---Sluzzelin talk  01:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Of course it's not okay, because it has nothing to do with the question and is literally a witch hunt (2nd, extended sense). Same as if you took the time to pore through four years of posting history for the OP and found an edit that was questionable from 2010, when they were only 10 years old and not 14. Just stop. the question stands fine, AGF and answer with references, don't break policy by doing the opposite. also we both have much better things to do than this, and have wasted an hour of time now. 212.96.61.236 (talk) 02:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

please stop working hard to make wikipedia worse
there is no such thing as being a 'fierce warrior' of wasting time working hard to break policy (AGF) and make wikipedia worse. Stop reverting, keep the discussion clean and away from an against-AGF witchhunt, and do feel free to add references to it or add to it. thank you. you can also see Nil Einne's talk page for a similar response. thanks. 212.96.61.236 (talk) 02:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * witch hunt? really? please stop posting here. i'm done. ---Sluzzelin talk  02:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks, Sluzzelin. I'm sorry I had to call it out as such, but literally 3-4 editors who could have been contributing and keeping this place normal and civil have instead decided they prefer to gang up on someone.  I'd have given $5 to have them instead focus on more references and fact-checking, it's a subject that was really interesting to me, and this means that the failure of the reference desk to have a civility and assume good faith policy has resulted in a loss of this amount to me.  it makes these editors almost literally thieves when they do this.  (against wikipedia policy).  Thanks for your help keeping Wikipedia useful and civil,  Sluzzelin.  212.96.61.236 (talk) 04:15, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

How is the in Gastarbeiterroute pronounced in German?
Hi Sluzzelin, I guess it could be How is it actually pronounced? --Shirt58 (talk) 10:14, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * like a loan-word from French as /rut/
 * like a loan-word from British English as /ruːt/
 * like a loan-word from American English as /raʊt/
 * like any of the above but with a schwa (/rutə/, /ruːtə/, /raʊtə/)


 * There is a schwa. It's [ˈruːtə]. See Duden, for example. Thanks for creating the article, Shirt - excellent, refdesk at its best! ---Sluzzelin  talk  12:25, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the AGF hat, part 2
Happening to notice the mention of an AGF hat above, I assumed at first that you had been awarded one. None more deserving! But it wasn't so, so here it is at last.


 * That is one stylish hat! (and how santa-ish when viewed from a different angle and with a non-white background ;-) Thank you, dear Bishonen, I'm flattered and embarrassed. As for the suicide pact (can't believe you're quoting Jimmy), yes I view WP:AGF as a default editing mode (and no reason to shut off one's brain); I try to be an "untranslatable" ilunga, and this lovely hatt will help me in my efforts! (No worries, Darwinfish, I still wear the pretty teacosy when skiing and sledding with my nephew who has his own fashion sense regarding headgear). ---Sluzzelin talk  08:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Main talkpage & Wikipedia:Error page confusion.
I need your help. I can't figure out how to delet my post from the Errors featured lists section. GoodDay (talk) 00:42, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, the Main Page/Errors was throwing me off :) GoodDay (talk) 00:44, 29 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I think our edits intersected in spacetime. I removed your post now, and I think everything's hunky-dory. ---Sluzzelin talk  00:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Walter de Coutances
We are having a little discussion here and on Different dates. Maybe you have some ideas?--Christie the puppy lover (talk) 18:00, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, Christie the puppy lover, and thanks for the notice. I feel a little guilty now for having given you that "exact" date from fr.wp at the reference desks. I see three editors have given you feedback regarding how to best deal with the discrepancy. All three of these editors have a lot of experience in editing articles, including articles on medieval history, and if I'm not mistaken, all three have an academic background in history, medieval history even. I, on the other hand, suck at writing articles and do not have that background. I just like looking for things requested at the reference desk. I hope I haven't done you a disservice in this case. I guess my only recommendation is to listen what these three editors are saying. ---Sluzzelin talk  21:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds like good advice.--Christie the puppy lover (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring my post at WP:RD/M
I explained what happened at User talk:Mandruss/Archive 2. &mdash; Sebastian 18:17, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, has happened to me often enough. Quite welcome. By the way, after our reminiscing, I found this at times jerky clip, the first time I've ever seen the real them on film. Had no idea any footage existed. ---Sluzzelin talk  18:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, cool! Funny, how the colorful jerks got in there. But I'm glad there's so much to see from them. That reminds me: There are so many great spring songs in German, but guess what our choir director picked for our May concert? Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen! I wonder what the Comedian Harmonists would have done with that song. Well, last year it it was Brahms' German Requiem, so I can't complain. &mdash; Sebastian 18:43, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Heh heh, imagine your choir doing Veronika! "Du, du, ..." is one of those German songs I actually only got to know via America (i.e. Hollywood), along with lots of polkas! But, wow, that was quite a March concert! How did it go? ---Sluzzelin talk  20:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for thoughts on the article talk
  Thank you for reflecting the Gerechtigkeitsspirale!

Did you know ... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"?

The poem ends with "Praise the right thing". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Gerda, for bringing the article to our attention! (What had prompted my post, no idea now useful it turned out to be, was a query of yours on NYB's talk page). Though I have visited (and really liked) the Rhein-Main area I never made it to Kiedrich, and knew nothing about the spiral and church, including the fact that Andreas Scholl had been one of its Chorbuben. It's marked for my next travels in the area! Take care, and keep up the great work on the unfathomable Thomaskantor! ---Sluzzelin talk  22:06, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Andreas Scholl sang He was despised for us ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution on Reference desk/Entertainment!
''In the music video a skinny boy, who looks hispanic and is very skinny, rides his skateboard trough industrial areas... Of course i know the song also, but except for the heavy bass line i just remember the awesomness of it. Every hint is very much appreciated! --217.83.186.8 (talk) 00:25, 6 August 2015 (UTC) Alright, to get the ball bearings rolling: "Open Eye Signal" by Jon Hopkins? ---Sluzzelin talk 07:05, 6 August 2015 (UTC) DUDE!!!! U'RE THE BEST!!! Really! Thank you!!! I thought i never listen to this tune ever again... Once again, thank you! Greetings from germany! --217.83.186.8 (talk) 02:15, 7 August 2015 (UTC)'' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.83.186.8 (talk)
 * You're quite welcome, and thank you for returning to the thread and resolving the resolution (by the way, I doubt very much that Jon Hopkins is of Hispanic heritage, though what do I know?). Greetings right back to Germany! ---Sluzzelin talk  08:48, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No No, i said the skateboarding boy looked hispanic... But not sure about that... Anyway, thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.83.186.8 (talk) 14:24, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

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Why did you delete my question
Why did you delete my question — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.7.159.55 (talk) 20:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Because it's a combination of false premise and scurrilous statement which meet a trolling pattern the desks are all too familiar with. ---Sluzzelin talk  20:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

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RfAs are all too often very tension-fraught. Thank you for your time and effort in evaluating the candidate and writing a reasoned statement; and I am very sorry you felt you had to withdraw your vote. I hope you do not stay away in future; both candidates and the encyclopedia benefit from having a wide variety of editors participate, and especially those who can make specific points either in support or in opposition. I thought someone should say this. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for those very kind words, Yngvadottir. I rarely participate at all in RFAs, and this is only the second time I've opposed, I think. One oppose vote weighs more than one support vote (because of the percentage range generally required to pass), and I just didn't feel that my vote was competent enough or my vetting was thorough enough, and I'll admit: To a certain point, I did allow myself being guilted into withdrawing my vote. I know that's not how RFA is supposed to work, but apparently that is the way I work. Thanks again, I really appreciate it. ---Sluzzelin talk  20:38, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and apologies
Thanks for the characteristically useful answer to my query; apologies for not thanking you on the Research Desk - got swamped by RL. I hope this finds you fulfilled and in rude health.

Adambrowne666 (talk) 23:26, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Adam! No apologies or expressions of gratitude ever necessary. I actually thought it was an interesting question, and was a bit disappointed that no one had anything to add. Perhaps typing "just to get things started" is the best way to prevent things from getting started---Sluzzelin talk  05:29, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Another approach...
...would have been to say, "Are you bragging or complaining?" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:15, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Heh, I should leave the one-liners to a wise-cwackin' wabbit. I wasn't really familiar with the rhyme, and I guess there's no obvious connection to Ned Flanders, but he is who came to my mind. It appears as though I spelled it wrong: . ---Sluzzelin talk  17:55, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Katyusha_(song)
Hello, I've added the lyrics of that song in English + Russian.. May I know why you've reverted my contribution :) elbarck (talk) 15:08, 1 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the note, elbarck. After looking at the article's edit history as well as several sections on its talk page, I erred on the side of caution because there are several editors maintaining that posting the lyrics constitutes a violation of copyright law. I admit, however, that I have no expertise in this field, and certainly won't revert if you choose to add it again. Perhaps it would be best to re-raise the issue on the talk page and ask for more comments? ---Sluzzelin talk  15:22, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

First of all thank you for your very respectable reply....

I asked because I didn't know too since it's not my expertise either, so wanted to avoid the same mistake in the future.... Surely I won't add it again till we clarify the issue of copyright.... But I did some digging about the copyrights of old songs and here is what I've found: http://www.djcounsel.com/?p=210 http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/copyright-trademark-patent/34257-when-do-copyrights-very-old-songs-expire.html

Thanks, have a nice day :) elbarck (talk) 08:31, 2 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I have found Wikipedia's own rules to be complex, convoluted, and controversial among its own community (exemplified, again, in the editing history and on the talk page of the Katyusha article. I'm not very good with that kind of stuff, sorry :-) ---Sluzzelin talk  23:44, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Deletion
Just wondering why you deleted the whole section. I would just have deleted the shouty bits at the end. I didn't know about that "requests for permission" page, and I think it's a useful link. Thanks, --Viennese Waltz 14:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It just appeared to be someone spoiling for an excuse to give that reply. Unfortunately this whole semi-protection saga also has resulted in "trolls" abusing the situation on the talk page now. But go ahead, and restore the upper part. No problems here. ---Sluzzelin talk  14:31, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually I did so myself now :-) Cheers! ---Sluzzelin talk  14:34, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Good stuff, thanks very much. --Viennese Waltz 14:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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La belle Hélène
Thanks for the link to a French/English translation of the libretto! Unfortunately I am not a partner institution of HathiTrust/Google so I cannot download the whole book .pdf, much as I would like to have it. But regardless, I am happy to send you my video of the opera if you wish. The file is 1.5 GB, 3 acts in 2 hours, Zurich Opera 1997. AllBestFaith (talk) 23:32, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry about that, AllBestFaith, and thank you for your very kind offer. Though an eclectic lover of music (and living in Zurich to boot), I think the video would be wasted on me :-), but thanks again! Take care. ---Sluzzelin talk  08:48, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

What tune?
Greetings: Several times at the RD you seemed to be singing "WHA - A - O - E". Have a particular tune in mind or come up with one? If there is such a tune I'd like to add it to my personal collection of WP trivia. Basemetal 11:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey, inexpensive shiny one! I dug around a bit. I think this only happened here, where I suggested singing it to the tune of "Three Blind Mice" because it seemed to fit the context (well, the greater context of the question, the immediate lateral subcontext was sexuality in Star Trek). Usually, however, I hear those letters more like they're being screamed at you by a cartoon character. [[File:Smiley green alien whaaa.svg]] WHAAOE!!!. Green impatient know-it-alls. ---Sluzzelin talk  12:05, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Cheap, ok. But, shiny? Which base metal exactly did you have in mind? Your chemistry must indeed be getting rusty! I could have sworn you did it more than once. It is true that a search yielded nothing, but then you could have thrown me off the scent (prophetically as it were) by spelling it W H A A O E (for example) a few times. But never mind. Once's enough. And that can easily be combined with a green alien scream. I take it you recommend it be sung "WHAA - O - E" (three syllables)? PS: Since we're talking "music" do you have any idea what this double time signature (2/2 3/2) means in this German tune? Never mind. I've found out it is called a multiple time signature but I still don't see how it applies to that tune since 2/2 and 3/2 do not alternate throughout.  Basemetal  15:42, 22 September 2[016 (UTC)


 * Nickels can be shiny! Yes "Whaa, Oh, Eee". As for the mixed time signature (edit-conflicted), I don't think they always need to alternate, see for example this excerpt, but I really don't like this notation. Put the signature at the beginning of the new bar when the meter changes, I say. Imagine Stravinsky compositions written with all the time signatures at the beginning; it would take up an entire line before you'd see the first note. ---Sluzzelin talk  16:21, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm completely with you there. Someone did exactly that, though their idea of what the bars are is a bit different. And they come top in Google searches! Well done! Basemetal  17:04, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I have a soft spot for tunes with one single inserted odd bar (and one could see the hymn with an inserted 2/4 (or 1/2) bar too). Another collection that could sneakily be turned into a list at Wikipedia. ---Sluzzelin talk  21:58, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Ref desks
I took it to his talk page instead of responding to his attacks in front of the OP. Based on his own philosophy, the next time he does it, it would be better to just challenge him right there... in front of the OP. Though I don't believe in that approach. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:19, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * As far as posting on his talk page, he's allowed several attacks by an IP-hopper to stand. I'm expecting you won't do the same thing here, if it comes to that, as you are a frequent defender. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:22, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not getting involved beyond what I wrote. Do as you see fit, but I think you're over-reacting. ---Sluzzelin talk  23:25, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, it's your page. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:36, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Please define personal attacks? A review of my comments at SM talk doesn't find anything that meets my definition.  I have commented on the content of edits, not on any users. 2600:8806:4800:5100:1010:4ADA:F1A3:D744 (talk) 23:28, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You've been after me since at least 2009. You have no ethical ground to stand on. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:36, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you have any diff's? without them, the above appears to meet the criteria for PA. I ask you kindly to provide some evidence of your accusations or strike your comments as an act of decency.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8806:4800:5100:1010:4ADA:F1A3:D744 (talk) 23:40, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You're funny. Though I could apologize to your registered user ID, if I knew what it was. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:43, 12 October 2016 (UTC)