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RE: Andrew Bridgen edits
The BBC reference has no citations, they want to be the ones to bring the truth to everyone without even a link to the original article or original tweet! Substake article is the author's own article that Andrew tweeted about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:1467:2500:18E5:7547:388E:F721 (talk) 12:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, please could you clarify your reason for removing my edit regarding Mr Bridgen latest tweets about Covid conspiracies? You state "Need better sources than just his tweets to demonstrate" - just wondering, to demonstrate what? Randomfellow (talk) 09:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * You seem to have missed the final word of my edit summary which was to WP:WEIGHT. In essence, why are those particular tweets deemed worthy of including in the article? As a rule of thumb, unless reliable sources have discussed a tweet, it isn't suitable to include it in a biography. SmartSE (talk) 15:33, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Matthew Rabinowitz
Hi SmartSE, thanks for the feedback on the page I created. Please forgive this rookie if I'm not engaging correctly, however, if possible, I'd like assistance in addressing the issues you flagged on the page: Too resume like and that T&Cs were violated by taking payment. In terms of the latter, how do I "prove" that this isn't the case? The subject is a well-known South African medical engineer with a demonstrated history in his field. I appreciate your time and would like to do the right thing. Thanks again. Russjarv (talk) 14:17, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Scientific Reports
This is one of those situations where Wikipedia sucks. Is it worth filing an SPI for this do you think ? Bon courage (talk) 17:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I just opened an SPI. They are easy to do. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:19, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No need in this situation in my opinion - it's a clear WP:DUCK and so I'll block both. SmartSE (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I file in case CU comes back with a sleeper. Community has a draft article that they started. If they are a sock of an already blocked user, I can delete the draft as G5. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:26, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep I saw that and have commented there and closed it - no need for a CU atm in my opinion. If they come back, maybe then. SmartSE (talk) 17:30, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Draft for Daniel Vorcaro
Thanks for reviewing my article. However, I am not sure you left it in the correct form, so I can submit it for review as a draft. I am not sure if I am putting it correctly but as it is, I think it is neither an article nor a draft. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelmaa (talk • contribs) 17:54, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that - I've replaced the AFC template. Are there any references which actually discuss him? From what I looked at, they all seemed to be about a bank rather than a person. SmartSE (talk) 21:32, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Smartse yes. Thank you. It's better now. On whether there are references that discuss him, yes. Please see references 1, 2, 6, 7, 8(newspaper featured), 9, 11, 12 and 16. Also, for almost all the other references, he has been highlighted in a paragraph or two. Reference 14 is a Portuguese newspaper in which he is interviewed briefly regarding the bank. Also, some references may need subscription to open. Kelmaa (talk) 21:50, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Smartse I have also checked on Google news using the editors tool ("Daniel Vorcaro" -wikipedia) and there are a good number of articles about him Kelmaa (talk) 14:06, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Citation bot?
Hi, thanks for this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conjugated_oligoelectrolytes&diff=1140757917&oldid=1140545935

Is this a tool assisted edit? I often improperly cite things assuming bots will come along and fix them, but it looks like you did this manually. What's your process? Cheers Miserlou (talk) 23:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem. There might be a bot which does it, but that was with WP:REFTOOLBAR which you can switch on at Special:Preferences. From the "template" dropdown, choose "cite journal" and then there is a box which you can paste the doi into and then if you click on the magnifying glass it fetches all the data and formats it for you. I find it baffling that this doesn't come as standard! SmartSE (talk) 01:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Wow, had no idea. Thanks! Miserlou (talk) 19:34, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Sanity check / second opinion
Hi! These two articles I've tagged for problems smell of UPE. What do you think? Bon courage (talk) 05:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see what you mean. I think it's COI though rather than UPE. I'll drop you an email to explain. SmartSE (talk) 10:53, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I've cleaned up Rochkind. Its seems to be marketing speak, summary style you get in a profile.   scope_creep Talk  14:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Slavin is much the same. I think its been written by a doctor. I removed a wee block from Rochkind but Slavin is fine. They are both quite information dense and could do with copyedit, which I've tagged. I don't think they are UPE. Possibly coi.    scope_creep Talk  14:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Useme paid edition
I've managed to add the paid contribution disclosure to the Useme arcicle. Thanks for letting me know. I had some problems with the template so I decided to do it on another day and then forgot about it. That's why I included the info in the history section of the article. AnnaWarszawianka (talk) 23:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

W. Ron Allen
Hi. I read your message on the user's talk page. Which source is it you're referring to. I'm not that good at spotting COI/UPE unless they are incredibly blatant. They've moved it back to mainspace again.  Onel 5969  TT me 21:36, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks yeah I noticed. It's WP:WIKIED rather than UPE. I spot checked another source earlier and couldn't find any of the info cited against it in it... Haven't got time or energy to deal with it now but maybe tomorrow. SmartSE (talk) 23:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yeah, there are several classes going on right now, this one, one about Indigenous Americans, and at least one other I've seen.  I'll leave it in your capable hands.  Onel 5969  TT me 23:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Did not realize that the editor has a conflict of interest. While there is some disagreement, there is an argument that the one carve-out to WP:DRAFTOBJECT should be UPE/COI editing.  Regardless, any use of their interview is WP:OR, and cannot be used.  Period.  Onel 5969  TT me 22:22, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm rather confused by your edits which restored content that failed verification with a COI justification... The COI tag is also a bit of a stretch to be honest unless - they have a COI in the sense that they want their article to be published to complete their class but they don't have a conflict of interest with the subject. Thanks for chipping in on the talk page though. I might struggle to reply politely at the moment. SmartSE (talk) 14:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. I didn't check for the verification angle.  And perhaps I misread all the dialogue, but it seems that the editor interviewed the article's subject, and then used that interview in the article.  Is that incorrect?  If so, my apologies (and I'll apologize to the editor as well).  Onel 5969  TT me 14:08, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes but that's due to a misunderstanding about how to create content rather than because they have a close connection with the subject. I see it as an OR and BLP issue rather than COI. SmartSE (talk) 14:11, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Got it. And I agree it's definitely OR, but as soon as someone establishes a connection with a subject (regardless of how that connection is made - a fan sitting down with their idol; a student interviewing a subject; a reporter interviewing a subject for that matter, and then writing a WP article on the subject), not only is it OR but also COI, imho.  I base that on "Any external relationship can trigger a conflict of interest" in the main def of COI, and "When an external role or relationship could reasonably be said to undermine that primary role, the editor has a conflict of interest similar to how a judge's primary role as an impartial adjudicator would be undermined if they were married to one of the parties." which can be found at WP:EXTERNALREL.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:16, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

W. Ron Allen article
You said that my article contained "multiple BLP problems". Could you maybe give some examples? Therealethanmayfield (talk) 18:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok I found where your feedback was. I just fixed all the issues you were concerned with in the edit history. I also removed a copyrighted source and all sentences that were unsourced. I tried to fix all of the issues you found but if they are still there, could you please give me an email as I am new to wikipedia format and do not understand the view history section at all. For a slightly more in depth summary of all that I changed since the latest upload, just look at the talk page. Therealethanmayfield (talk) 19:34, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Smartse, please do not move war over this article. Editors have a right to object to draftification and move their articles back to main space. It should not have been moved a second time to Draft space, much less a third time. This has resulted in move-warring. If you believe the article is unsuitable for the project, please pursue a form of deletion. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:20, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I regret all the drama this has caused but think that all my actions have been justified. From my first glance at the article it was apparent that there were major BLP problems and considering that it had only just been moved out of userspace, putting it back there until the problems could be addressed seemed sensible. I can't help that the user then ignored my note and moved it back. At that point given that my concern had not been addressed at all reverting the move again seemed justified. After they again moved it back, I looked into more of the article and again found numerous problems with the content - every source I checked did not support the information. It still undoubtedly contains BLP violations. At that point, deletion wasn't even a consideration as I hadn't got anywhere close to doing WP:BEFORE. The choices were either to blank everything (not ideal) or to return it to their userspace. I have since looked for sources and to be honest, meeting WP:BIO looks to be pretty shaky but given I've already been accused of harassment by both the student and their instructor/professor(?) just for doing what is completely normal in my role as an editor, I'm not very inclined to nominate it for AFD. It's no fun deleting someone else's work, but I am not going to lie, I find it absolutely batshit crazy that a student could come away from a course about how to edit here and think that interviewing a subject was the way to create content. If I explain how to edit to someone who never has before, it's literally sources, sources, sources and that seems like a pretty simple concept. It's regrettable that WIKIED introduces perverse incentives for writing articles and making them stick which do not apply to those editing voluntarily. SmartSE (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Editor for pay sockpuppet
Hello. Earlier today you had moved Everett Osborne to draft after User:Andyvyrha created it. They were blocked for paid editing and now they have started using another account (User:Underdog1000) and is moving drafts back into mainspace. I thought you should know.  Mike  Allen   06:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I thought Everett Osborne had enough media coverage references so I moved the article from draft to mainspace Underdog1000 (talk) 06:48, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also I had a question if an editor Disclosed that he's getting paid to edit or move. Either way whether he disclose or not article going to get deleted so how disclosing helps? Underdog1000 (talk) 06:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the headsup - looking at Underdog's contribs further strengthens my suspicions about them being paid editors. I shall block them too. SmartSE (talk) 13:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Reliance Global Corporate Security
TimothyBlue is trying to delete my article and accessing me to promoting a company or product Pervezmusk. (talk) 22:29, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * It is not acceptable to WP:CANVASS for !votes. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:35, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Ravensfire is trying to delete my article and Ravensfire is not consider my article as a stand-alone article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pervezmusk. (talk • contribs) 04:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, you added pp to Reliance Global Corporate Security but it expired and 103.109.95.23 continues to rv with AfD merge. Could check this? Thank you, greetings from Los Angeles.  // Timothy :: talk  11:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I had meant to protect it for longer than I did, but have now blocked the IP given that they were obviously evading a block on Pervezmusk. SmartSE (talk) 11:36, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Procedural notification
Hi, I and others have proposed additional options at Village_pump_(policy). You may wish to review your position in that RfC. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:28, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Golden Promise
BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Peter Bogner
Hi Smartse,

I'm an excludionist as well. It would be great it you could sharpen the glibberish corporate-speak allegations a little bit.

Kind regards Jackie Bensberg (talk) 14:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that the text I reverted to is a suitable summary either, but summarising it as only having suggested that the subject has an imaginary friend (a phrase not used at all in the source) is clearly not accurate. Corporate speak would be words like "solutions", "leading" etc. not SmartSE (talk) 14:21, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I think that GISAID has no oversight board and is organized as a private foundation of German laws which are exempted from corporate disclosure duties may be characterized as "running it as a personal fiefdom". Are you OK with that wording?--Jackie Bensberg (talk) 14:23, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Not unless that's supported by a reliable source. Anyway, if you want to discuss further, please do so at Talk:Peter Bogner instead of here. SmartSE (talk) 14:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Link is now Talk:Peter Bogner (businessman) AncientWalrus (talk) 17:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

That's just the quintessence of the Science article.--Jackie Bensberg (talk) 16:21, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Hanna Cavinder
The nominator has replied to your DYK review, but didn't ping you. I thought you might want to know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:41, 5 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reminder - I've replied there now. SmartSE (talk) 16:57, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Justin Maddox New Page
Hello, SmartSE. I replied directly on my own talk page--twice, actually--to your message about my creation of a page for Justin Maddox and my editing win general. I suppose I should have messaged you here. Please take a look (if you haven't already). I would appreciate hearing from you. I am anxious to get this resolved. I have agreed tentatively to create a page for a nonprofit of 50 years' standing on a purely voluntary basis, but I don't want to begin until we clear up the matter of my editing. Thank you. Regards, amost42n81 (talk — Preceding undated comment added 22:26, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

An apology and a thank you
Hi Smartse, after re-reading my message on you on Chris Griswold's talk page, I realized that I came across as demanding and, quite frankly, rude to you. Even though I didn't mean it that way, it's how it reads to me and, for that, I am sorry.

And thank you for unblocking Chris. He was sort of a mentor to me during my very early days on Wikipedia and I was stunned when I learned a few months ago that he had been blocked. I am happy that his name has been cleared. Acalamari 01:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note and no problem at all. I should have followed up with NahidSultan when they pinged me, but it slipped my mind. SmartSE (talk) 16:00, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Dance with the Devil (Immortal Technique song)
Hi. Yeah, I didn't pay enough attention to the first AfD, thinking the second was more recent and the more relevant, so I missed the DRV notice.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

cancellazione Bozza Gaetano Minale
Mr Smartse has deleted my draft on English Wikipedia with reference to Transpilot and my complaint to Wikiprofessionalsinc, I have the block on Italian Wikipedia, as an artist I have been demolished I am truly demoralized, humiliated at 85 years old. I ask you please review my position. 79.37.219.48 (talk) 08:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Since I am finally able to communicate with someone Mr. Smartse after seven years of blockade, who should I contact to ask for grace for my mishap on the Italian Wikipedia? for insulting Gag I am paying a severe penalty if I have made a mistake I apologize to everyone at 85 I have little to live to live I would like to leave in peace with everyone. Trust me again. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.37.219.48 (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello and thank you for your message – I don’t speak Italian, but hopefully this makes sense. I am sorry that you have been having a hard time. Firstly, the English and Italian Wikipedias are seperate organisations, so I do not know what has happened there. If you need help there, then you can ask at it:WP:Bar. All I know, is that Gaetano Minale was created by a group of editors that have been banned from editing since 2020. Consequently, any articles that they create are eligible for deletion. It is very frustrating for everyone involved that this company continues to promote itself to write Wikipedia articles and offers a poor service to its customers. Unfortunately there is little that we can do to stop them.


 * Ciao e grazie per il tuo messaggio – non parlo italiano, ma spero che abbia senso. Mi dispiace che tu abbia passato un periodo difficile. In primo luogo, le Wikipedia in inglese e in italiano sono organizzazioni separate, quindi non so cosa sia successo lì. Se hai bisogno di aiuto lì, puoi chiedere a it:WP:Bar. Tutto quello che so è che Gaetano Minale è stato creato da un gruppo di redattori a cui è stato vietato l'editing dal 2020. Di conseguenza, tutti gli articoli che creano possono essere cancellati. È molto frustrante per tutti i soggetti coinvolti che questa azienda continui a promuoversi per scrivere articoli su Wikipedia e offra un servizio scadente ai propri clienti. Sfortunatamente c'è poco che possiamo fare per fermarli. SmartSE (talk) 15:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Grazie per la risposta, ho consultato it:WP:Bar. ma non trattano utenti bloccati, lo statuto di Wikipedia sancisce che lo sblocco può essere fatto da un amministratore che valuta la situazione , ma io personalmente non ho nessun accesso , non posso parlare con nessun amministratore in quanto bloccato . Poi dici che Gaetano Minale è stato creato da un gruppo di redattori a cui è stato vietato l'editing ,ma ti assicuro che nessuno ha mai usato il mio nome , sono stato sempre io ad utilizzarlo. Questa mia bozza che mi hai cancellato è stata compilata da un esperto di pagine in quanto io son sono in grado di elaborarle con tutte notizie attinte dalla mia attività artistica di 50 anni , vorrei almeno rimanere su Wikipedia in inglese se è possibile ti prego riattivala . Grazie 82.55.176.240 (talk) 06:45, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * please, please tell me how I can do to request to be unblocked from Wikipedia in Italian, it's been seven years, I humbly apologize for my unpolite behavior towards an administrator. Thank you. 79.47.177.231 (talk) 08:24, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I have emailed it:User:Gac who is an administrator who stopped it:Gaetano Minale from being recreated. Hopefully they can help. SmartSE (talk) 23:03, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Vedi un cluster di utenze (di Minale o su commissione, poco importa) per promuovere la pagina di Minale stesso. Wikipedia non è il posto giusto dove farsi pubblicità. Grazie della comprensione. -- Gac  04:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Mr. Smartse, I see that the Gac administrator replied, I have to apologize to him for everything if I'm wrong, but I'm not a beginner who wants to advertise on Wikipedia, I have 50 years of artistic experience with 120 exhibitions in Italy and all over the world. abroad... I have publications in all the national catalogues.... such as Bolaffi, Comed and il Quadrato... I have reviews from well-known Italian and foreign critics, I have participated in international competitions and participated in the Milan biennale and the quadriennale of Naples etc. ... and I don't go on... On Facebook I have a virtual gallery visited by HUNDREDS OF people every day, I have a picture gallery in my name in my municipality of Atessa with 105 works on permanent display in the municipal auditorium... If I ask to be part of Wikipedia it is not for a biography or for propaganda .... Mr. Gag please review your thoughts, I have little time left to live and I would like to leave in peace with everyone , take a look at my personal website , www.gaetanominale.com does it as if it had to give an opinion to a person it does not know. ..... Thanks and excuse me again, I really do it with such humility and sincerity of mind. --GAETANO MINALE 79.25.249.119 (talk) 14:01, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * www.gaetanominale.com  - Sig Gac le chiedo solo qualche minuto per leggere il mio sito web e si renderà conto che io non ho bisogno di usare Wikipedia per farmi pubblicità, come lei asserisce, ma solo perchè, credo che dopo oltre 50 anni di attività artistica e non solo in Italia e con i miei 85 anni, rientro tra quelle persone che per merito possono far parte della enciclopedia di Wikipedia . Ho sbagliato nel 2017 , sono stato punito con blocco infinito e in modo globale, ora le chiedo nuovamente scusa ma anche di potermi dare una possibilità di avere un mio profilo su Wikipedia, anzi, le chiedo se lei può aiutarmi anche per la compilazione in quanto io non sono in grado farlo. . Cordialmente la saluto ed ancora scuse infinite. Gaetano Minale 80.180.135.200 (talk) 12:26, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Mr Smartse, I replied to the administrator Gag (see below) trying to apologize to him and anyone I contacted in a bad way, I explained that I am not a profiteer to advertise myself but an artist who has been on stage for over 50 years with 120 exhibitions worldwide. But he hasn't answered, I can't contact him because he's blocked, I ask you too to check my website www.gaetanominale.com see exhibitions, paintings, reviews, articles, newspapers and anything else that demonstrates that I'm not looking for publicity, I'm 85 ill and not much to to live, I only ask you to give me back my serenity. Thank you especially if listened. Gaetano Minale 79.49.110.185 (talk) 11:56, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

administrators, please help me to unload the pages on Wikipedia and restore my deleted draft, please give me a response ... thank you. Gaetano Minale — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.47.236.134 (talk) 16:04, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Jamie Waller - entrepreneur
Hi, could you help me understand why you have edited the above page to remove personal reference and include details about business that I was a Director of? All businesses are Limited and as such have a board of Directors and if you have chosen to include only negative information like commercial disputes the page should also include positive like contract wins etc which would fill the page with irrelivent text e.g. about a business and not the person. Can were work on this together to get content that we both agree is accurate and about Jamie Waller? I hope we can work on this together as relevant content seems to have been removed and replaced with content that Directors are protected from by UK law. 109.170.216.76 (talk) 07:13, 7 June 2023 (UTC)


 * It should be noted that neither I, and I assume User:Smartse, do not know who "you" are.
 * If you are claiming to be Jamie Waller, then please refrain from editing Jamie Waller (entrepreneur), unless you're addressing serious, possibly libelous, and verifiably false errors. see WP:AB.
 * If you are someone else, I ask that you please review the WP:MOS and WP:NPOV for some guidelines about maintaining a neutral point-of-view.
 * If the article does contain protected content, as you claim, please remove it and provide adequate justification, i.e some proof to demonstrate protection under U.K. copyright law, and why Wikipedia's inclusion does not meet the standard for Fair Dealing. Agentdoge (talk) 19:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

This original SPI?
Sockpuppet investigations/Pathofkarma looks enormous. Genie is not among the list 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes but it was unclear whether or not that was all one group or several different ones. Consequently, I've started a new one rather than trying to link it to older ones: Sockpuppet investigations/SoftHusky. SmartSE (talk) 21:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Good call 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you feel there might be a point "wondering" whether they are related to a bigger UPE ring, without naming it? 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

SoftHusky
Thanks for your work on SoftHusky. I found another. Based on behavior such as writing style and the one-line user page, it is likely SoftHusky. Would you like to take a look? If you're convinced, please take action. Thanks. 2605:4C40:33:6CFA:0:E462:6E10:1 (talk) 14:43, 4 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I do see some similarities, but nothing which is specific to SoftHusky as far as I can tell. I will move it to draft though and keep an eye on it. Thanks for the note (and please create an account so we can discuss things more easily). SmartSE (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

AE discussion
Just in case pings weren't working, I wanted to give you a heads up that the AE discussion has been opened dealing with some of the comments about you. KoA (talk) 16:52, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for starting that. I guess I shall finally have to break my arbitration virginity! SmartSE (talk) 17:02, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I hear you, I wish that ship hadn't sailed for me years ago, but it's a downside of editing in this topic. I do worry about editor retention in the topic if that sort of stuff goes unchecked and people are hesitant about getting help at AE, but at least it's an improvement compared to the years before the GMO ArbCom. KoA (talk) 17:09, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:QOR360
Thanks for all of your feedback on the draft. Having thought about the comments left by you and the other editor involved in the discussion, I’d like to take this back to Sandbox and work on it a bit more.

When I do resubmit it, given that the comments here are now longer than the draft itself, would you have any objection to my removing them? I worry that with so many comments, it would be difficult for the future AfC reviewer to get into the article itself. Most of the comments concern the resolved question of potential sock puppeting which we now all agree is not an issue with this draft.

Thanks for considering the request, and for all of your help so far. W12SW77 (talk) 22:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikiconsultants?
Hi, Smartse, how are you? Could I ask you to review this block of mine (in an area I'm not at all familiar with)?. Is there an SPI for the company, btw? Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:47, 29 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me - doesn't get too much more ducky than that. The SPI is here: Sockpuppet_investigations/BrookeCook/Archive I'll file a case shortly., has a distinct smell of chatgpt... SmartSE (talk) 11:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

What's the best way to handle Kevin Finkenaur
Hey, good catch at Talk:Kevin Finkenaur. I want to know what you think the best way to proceed with the article would be. You mention in the block log suspected sock puppetry but as far as I understand CSD doesn't apply because the article creator wasn't banned at the time of creation, at least without knowing the puppet master (if I'm wrong with this understanding, please let me know).

I agree with what I believe you were hinting at on the talk page, this seems to be a case of using Wikipedia for public image whitewashing.

In this case, do we have to let the 7 days of run its course? From a green reviewer to an admin, what's the best course of action here?

Thanks, microbiology Marcus (petri dish&bullet;growths) 17:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Also wanted to flag for you Liberty Bell Moving & Storage if you haven't seen it already. If I may borrow tone from an admin on a talk page I recently saw, isn't it odd that this was created back to back with Mr. Finkenaur's article?
 * Cheers, microbiology Marcus (petri dish&bullet;growths) 17:53, 30 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes aware of them both thanks. I know that the user's a sockpuppet but just can't remember who and need to get back to my desk to look it up. I shouldn't get round to deleting them both tomorrow. If it wasn't for that though your actions so far as just what I'd have done. SmartSE (talk) 18:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Nice pick up. According to my notes, it looks like User:Kolapoimam. - Bilby (talk) 13:49, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've looked through my history quickly but can't find the job again which is annoying. Do you know who the upwork user is (email me if you like)? SmartSE (talk) 13:59, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll send you it via email. - Bilby (talk) 20:17, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

GA comments
Thanks for the GA review comments. Just wanted to let you know I got to your comments before it closed. RNAi is one of those trickier ones for categories because it is very much genetics based, but can be applied like a chemical. Usually that gets handled within the genetics topic more than chemical control, but I split out sections to help clarify which organism's genetics were being focused on. KoA (talk) 17:20, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Help with the Lenovo IdeaPad page
Hi. I work for Lenovo, the manufacturer of IdeaPad. The current IdeaPad page has about 30+ sections and sub-sections about individual products. A lot of the information is out-dated, incomplete, etc. I disclosed a COI and requested replacing the unwieldly content with a single product table, as is done on on the ThinkPad page, so the page can focus more on history and encyclopedic content. Editors approved and added the table, but I'm unclear on what the consensus is for cleaning up the 30+ sections on each product.

I was hoping you might take a look and provide some guidance? If the 30+ sections are to remain, I'd like to update them. Best regards. StuartGill (talk) 18:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It's best to continue as you have done by proposing changes on the talk page. You can add edit COI to ask for someone to review the edit if nobody seems to be responding. My personal thought is that the sections on all of the models is completely unreferenced so it would be completely legitimate to remove it altogether. If it can be referenced, I agree with you that a table would be better rather than numerous infoboxes and huge chunks of white space between them. I also think that sections like this violate WP:NOTCATALOG, especially when they are, as at present, completely unreferenced. I'll pop the article on my watchlist and chime in if I can. SmartSE (talk) 09:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Good catch!
That subtle link spam as reference stuff you were taking out of the plant pages was a very good catch. I had missed it completely. Well done. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 18:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I was just searching to check we don't have an article on biostimulant and found a mention in snake oil which read rather oddly . After seeing the IP who added that also updating a dead link to the same site, I thought it was definitely worth checking . SmartSE (talk) 10:01, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Strange ref errors
Hi Smartse, I noticed that you fixed two strange ref errors. Unfortunately, there are a few hundreds of articles with the same issues: Do you think that could and should be fixed by a bot? Leyo 22:50, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:CS1_errors:_generic_name is the complete list of similar errors. I'm not familiar with bot requests, but I suspect that someone will get round to fixing them in an automated or semi-automated way eventually! SmartSE (talk) 11:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I suggested the more straight-forward fix to be resolved by a bot: Bot requests --Leyo 13:30, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

I would like to inquire about the removal for Robert T. Sakowitz.
Robert is a well known fashion figure in Houston Texas and is related to Lynn Wyatt who also has a wikipedia page. I am curious as to why his page was deleted. I am his IT guy and assisted in getting the page up.. As I am new to Wikipedia I see that there is a reference to a sock puppet. Can you help me with this?

GCSServiceaccount (talk) 02:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The person that you hired to post the article had been blocked previously. Consequently all of their edits were eligible be to deleted per WP:CSD. SmartSE (talk) 16:45, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, I have renamed ny account and would like to follow up with the Robert  Sakowitz page deletion.  Can I get it undeleted to my sandbox so we can review it and make sure it meets the wikipedia page standards?  I understand the original author is blocked and want to keep the data but separate from the original author. GCS-Sam (talk) 14:20, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Can I request that the page be restored into my sandbox so i can try to separate it from the profile of the person who created it for Robert? GCS-Sam (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. Sorry I haven't been around much the last few days. Unfortunately articles that have created by a blocked user are not able to be restored and I would warn you against trying to obtain a copy because you would be eligible to be blocked if you were to repost it. I have looked at what you wrote at User:GCSServiceaccount in September but that looks unsuitable to restore as well. If you wish to recreate the article then the first step is to find good sources because from my searches, it does not look as if our notability requirements for biographies are satisfied. We need three independent, reliable sources (see WP:IRS) which provide in-depth coverage of him to merit an article. I'm happy to take a look and advise if any that you have are suitable. SmartSE (talk) 09:03, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks we will recreate it GCS-Sam (talk) 15:03, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I am an IT guy here in houston and this is my older client. He isnt that savvy about wikipedia.
 * We provided a CV and bio to the creator.   We will reuse that info since it is his bio.  since the data is common to him because it is his biography.  Will reusing the bio data cause a blockage?
 * he ran a multi state High end department store chain for many years that his family ran until he assumed running the corporation. His family is mentioned in several different pages.  His sister has her own page as a Houston Socialite.  he was the winner of several citations cited in multiple publications that are available on the internet.
 * By reusing this info will we be blocked? We are being approached by other writers offering to help us.  Im not sure how they know to contact us but are looking for guidance. GCS-Sam (talk) 15:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * No as long as you don't copy and paste what was written then that will be fine. It doesn't make any difference what he has done, all that matters is whether people who are independent of him have written about him. I'd strongly advise you to decline any offers from writers - mosy of them do not follow our terms of use and are blocked from editing. If you can find some good sources, then create a draft at Draft:Robert Sakowitz and once you are ready to submit it for a review, add AFC submission at the top. Please also add a disclosure to your user page, explaining your relationship with the subject, as explained at WP:DISCLOSECOI. SmartSE (talk) 17:34, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * sorry to wax on about this  but we paid quite a bit of money for the first page.
 * He has been written about many times in external publications. He is about 80 years old.  SO I am sure he couldnt pull the proper creation himself.   I know there are specific things that have to be done in specific ways and its a bit tricky to get it right.  If we find assistance,  Is it possible to provide a name or 2 of page creators  to see if they are banned? GCS-Sam (talk) 09:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what it is you're asking for? The normal way that articles are created is that someone completely unrelated to the subject volunteers to write an article. The vast majority of paid editors do not comply with our policies and if you gave me a name it would be impossible for me to guarantee they are not already blocked. There is a very small list of users at List_of_paid_editing_companies who do follow the rules, but that is by no means an endorsement. If you recruited the previous paid editor through Upwork, I'd suggest contacting them and asking for a refund as their users must comply with other sites Terms of Use, which they did not. SmartSE (talk) 11:13, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Bioeffector
Based on, I would think this should also redirect to biostimulant. Shyamal (talk) 14:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the delay and thanks for stealing biostimulant from my to do list! Bioeffector isn't a term I'm familiar with to be honest and looking at that article, my main concern is that the article creator was heavily involved in an EU-funded project called biofector: Manfred G. Raupp. One difference I see between how that article defines bioeffector and how biostimulants are defined, is that that biological control agents as bioeffectors, whereas biostimulants are improving growth/yield outside of any effect on pests. This paper uses bioeffector as the term for applying bacteria to citrus fruit to change the chemical composition of the peel, which again is not something that would come under the biostimulant definition. So I think that they are distinct topics and potentially biostimulants are a subclassification of bioeffector, but we would need a source to back that up. The bioeffector article definitely needs work to remove the bias from that research project which essentially considered them synonymous with biostimulants:  bio-effectors (microorganisms and natural compounds with the ability to improve growth, nutrient acquisition and stress tolerance of crops). SmartSE (talk) 12:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. To be honest, that article was not picked by me. I was doing some outreach at a university and asked the participants to pick an entry that they found to be missing for a basic demonstration of article creation (and I have warned them that they would need to go through the AFC process if and when they get on board)... Thanks, I will wait for someone to close that merge discussion at some point. Shyamal (talk) 13:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)