User talk:Smchase

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I just noticed you've been adding a huge number of external links to http://www.wibeaches.us. Is there any good reason for adding these links? To me it just looks like good old spamming.

Regards

/ Mats Halldin (talk) 17:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I am adding a link to a site that contains information on beach health for only those places where is applicable. Like, beaches in douglas county are monitored and there is good historical data on the beaches. The site also provides info on the program. This program has an affect on the health of the beaches and also tourism I imagine. Its as applicable as the county pages. The program is run by the DNR and the local county governments. Check out the website and you'll see its actually an informative site. Its managed by the USGS.

Not trying to add "spam" but trying to add helpful info. I think its more helpful than say in the US Hwy 12 page where they list WisconsinDells Attractions... basically a cheep form of advertising for companies. At least the Beach Health Website gives people info they can use to make informed decisions or use in school reports/research.

Cheers. ~Smchase


 * Fine Smchase, sorry if I caused any trouble.
 * I'm writing on parks and lakes myself -- I live in Stockholm and recently wrote about Lake Gömmaren and Gömmaren Nature Reserve. Nothing like Wisconsin I guess, but I must admit I know very little about your part of the US.
 * However, you did add dozens of link to a single site, which typically is referred to as spamming no matter if you are directly affiliated with the site. Wikipedia guidelines on external links are detailed on External links.  The section "Links normally to be avoided" clearly includes "Sites that are only indirectly related to the article's subject".  Links to local weather forecasts and such should typically not be included as they are not directly related to any specific location.  I did a quick test on a few pages were you added the external links to see if this guideline applies:
 * Brule River State Forest - administered by DNR, the only available in the list on the site (as far as I could tell).
 * Yellowstone Lake State Park - neither beaches or DNR mentioned. Already a link to DNR Forestry.
 * Mirror Lake State Park - already two links to DNR, no beaches mentioned.
 * Governor Nelson State Park - neither beaches or DNR mentioned.
 * Chippewa County, Wisconsin - neither beaches or DNR mentioned.
 * Door County, Wisconsin - mentions swimming, way to many external links already, not directly related to DNR (apparently).
 * When I saw you adding dozens of external links to a single site I was still hesitant about it being spam. So instead of just reverting you, I dropped a question here on your talk page.  Instead of replying you kept on adding links, so I turned to an administrator for advice which resulted in the warning below.
 * Hope my poor English isn't causing any confusion.
 * BTW, nice work on Badger Army Ammunition Plant (external links should always go on the bottom of the page and be limited to a minimum).
 * / Mats Halldin (talk) 17:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I didn't respond until I did because I didn't see the comment by you until just the other day. Just not familiar enough about how messages are recieved I guess. Sorry for confusion. If you select the county on the beach site you get the info on beach quality. ~Smchase

February 2008
This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Spammers may have their websites blacklisted as well, preventing their websites from appearing on Wikipedia.   CWii ( Talk  20:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Not trying to spam. Trying to add helpful info. ~Smchase

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