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The "|"
It is shift+the back slash (should be directly above your "enter" key). It looks like two small vertical bars, but when typed appears as a solid line. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

"unauthorized"
This error should be fixed now.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 06:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Special:NewPages. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Bob Lanier
According to WP:V, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—meaning, in this context, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed." Please provide a reliable source that states that Lanier recorded a quintuple double, and we can include it in the article. Bash Kash (talk) 19:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read my comment at the bottom of the talk page. Bash Kash (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * BTW, see WP:3RR. Bash Kash (talk) 21:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied at the talk page. Bash Kash (talk) 18:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL, I'm not mad, I'm just saying that we need reliable sources. I looked for a very long time on the internet, and I have concluded that quintuple double thing is nothing more than an internet rumor. However, if you want to prove me wrong, you're going to have to come up with something better than a fourm or Yahoo! Ansers. Bash Kash (talk) 19:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I wasn't using capital letters, I was quoting "Hiki Inu" comment from . Bash Kash (talk) 22:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

June 2008
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 * Hearing something on the radio does not make it verifiable. Please read the policy, which states that "[the] threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—meaning, in this context, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true." This source and this one are both verifiable sources. KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  11:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Recent edits to Tiger Woods
I still believe your recent addition should not be included because the event is not notable. Additionally, the section contains original research: were the remarks really "controversial?" What "criticism" was offered? Please see Wikipedia:NOT#NEWS and Wikipedia:OR. Farside6 (talk) 01:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * Please stop removing this tag fromImage:Rushfrank.jpg. The image is orphaned. -- Zim Zala Bim talk  20:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * Note I have tagged your images as possibly unfree and listed them here for others to review. -- Zim Zala</b> Bim <sup style="color:black;">talk  16:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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Tiger Woods
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AfD nomination of Huggy Wuggy
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Speedy deletion of Huggy Wuggy
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Phillies
No idea... I hope so! KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  15:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your edits
It is unnecessary to include this information in the article Brett Myers at this time. It is easier to classify and categorize baseball statistics month by month. Please be civil. Do not use the existence of other pages to justify the existence of information which you consider to be notable. Thank you. KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  14:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make it right. Please read WP:NOT. Thanks. KV5  •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  14:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a baseball statistic. Save (baseball) is the article for it. Closers earn them at the end of games. KV5  •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  14:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Flagging Charles Torjo for further review
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No Yolks
Looks like someone else (an admin) thought it was spam too. Regards, WWGB (talk) 13:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Please don't cut/paste from websites
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Fact correction
You changed Sidney Moncrief's height from 6-4 to 6-8 on List of college men's basketball players with 2000 points and 1000 rebounds, but according to his official NBA.com profile he's listed as 6-4. I reverted your edit. Just a heads up on your unintentional mistake. -Jrcla2 (talk)

Brett Myers
The edit you made to Brett Myers is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Please do not place speculative information on article pages. Thank you. KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  21:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for "smiling" at me on my talk page. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

2008 seeds for World Sports Competition
Will you be adding more context to this article. At the moment the casual reader has no idea what it's about - it's just a list of red links. Thank you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Hidal Tinav
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 * Thanks for the message. As stated in the above notice, the article does not indicate why he is important or significant. If you can deal with that issue, the article will survive speedy deletion, but you will also need to show why this person is notable per WP:BIO and support that with some sources. – ukexpat (talk) 20:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

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2008 NBA Draft
How do you know Derrick Rose has been selected as No 1? I think we should wait for the draft picks to be completed then we fill it. Sergiogr (talk) 23:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I still think we should wait for the draft to be complete but anyway doesn't matter.

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Speedy deletion of Nicole Fawcett
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 * This page seems does not assert why the person is notable and also doesn't say why the person in question is notable. It just mentions someone's high school and college sporting achievements. If Nicole Fawcett deserves a page, then the many other people who are in a college sports team would deserve a page.UKWikiGuy (talk) 20:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't really care. I'm just cleaning up Wikipedia and making sure that pages that shouldn't be here don't make it. A page is created every few seconds and most of them should be deleted. If an admin said it was ok, cool. UKWikiGuy (talk) 20:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, thanks for that snide remark that you left on my talk page UKWikiGuy (talk) 20:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

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"With a name like Smucker's, it has to be good®"
I've seen your useful edits on my watchlist before, but I finally had to throw that on here --especially considering no one has done so yet. --Bobak (talk) 15:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * lol...Awesome!! Smuckers (talk) 15:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:STALK
Who are you accusing of stalking, given the opaque note you left at Talk:Barack Obama? (I strongly advise you to provide more context & detail when making such serious accusations). -- Zim <b style="color:darkgreen;">Zala</b> Bim <sup style="color:black;">talk  20:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Userpage vandalism
Constructive contributions are appreciated and strongly encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. If you are the user, please log in under that account and proceed to make the changes. Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. -- Scjessey (talk) 09:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It was my userpage, and you vandalized it. The userboxes sprayed all over it should've been a dead giveaway. -- Scjessey (talk) 10:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Why should I assume good faith when you vandalized my user page? -- Scjessey (talk) 11:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't vandalize anything intentionally...it was a mistake that I apologized for. See WP:MISTAKES and WP:Harass. Thanks. Smuckers It has to be good 21:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

On blanking talk pages
Per WP:TPG, please don't remove comments (even your own) from article talk pages, as you've been doing (apparently also while not logged in) at Talk:Nicole Fawcett. I've left instructions there regarding creating an archive if you want to move them from the main talk page. Thanks. -- Zim <b style="color:darkgreen;">Zala</b> Bim <sup style="color:black;">talk  00:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Brett Myers
I saw it when you removed it; I'd already replaced the picture by then. It's a Commons file and I'm a member there, so I'm taking the information to them that shows it's a copyvio. KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  00:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Blatter/Bladder
Regarding this edit, we have disambiguation templates suitable for such situations (see distinguish, for example), however I don't feel that it is necessary in this case as these two terms are not "deceptively similar". -- Zim <b style="color:darkgreen;">Zala</b> Bim <sup style="color:black;">talk  04:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok...just put it there just in case someone had really bad spelling. Your corrections are always appreciated, ZimZalaBim, to further my Wikipedia learning. Regards, Smuckers It has to be good 04:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edit to my talk page
I have not made any "joke edits," and I have no idea what you're talking about. Please double-check before you place erroneous templates on users' talk pages. And there's no need to "welcome" me; I've been here a good deal longer than you have. Coemgenus 13:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Same here. What's the deal?  Stevie is the man!  Talk &bull; Work 17:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Smuckers: I reverted your edit to the comment Coemgenus left above; I don't the s/he was being rude. Rather than leaving more comments on others' talk pages about being rude, perhaps you should reply to the two queries above regarding why you left joke on their talk pages? -- Zim <b style="color:darkgreen;">Zala</b> Bim <sup style="color:black;">talk  22:38, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sigh. Ok. Please don't give users warning for edits they performed 2 years ago, as you've accused Coemgenus (without evidence, I might add). Also, in the future, when such a warning is appropriate, please follow the instructions on the template's page (i.e., Template:Joke) regarding template substitution ("subst:"), and using the parser function to add more detail to the warning, thus helping those being warned understand what the devil you're talking about. (Honestly, I don't feel you're at a level of technical or policy proficiency to go around warning people, but that's not for me to decide). -- Zim <b style="color:darkgreen;">Zala</b> Bim <sup style="color:black;">talk  22:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So just because I'm not an admin, I can't try to help Wikipedia? Without the "non-admins", Wikipedia wouldn't have any edits and would have 1,000,000 less pages. I'm not mad, but I feel like you're saying I'm inferior to everyone else =( Smuckers It has to be good 23:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't mention anything about being an admin. But going around and simply leaving WP:STALK (diff) or joke (diff and diff) on various pages without any context or explanation shows a lack of understanding of how to do these things. That's all I'm saying.-- Zim <b style="color:darkgreen;">Zala</b> Bim <sup style="color:black;">talk  23:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please cite the edit in question and explain why you felt it was necessary to correct it two years after the fact. Coemgenus 11:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * IMO, I felt that (This) "To hell with IE" was a joke edit. I realize it's older. Also, I didn't write "Welcome", the template autmatically writes that. Smuckers It has to be good 13:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a user box to my own user page and included a whimsical edit summary. Neither of these is vandalism.  I hope this experience has taught you to use caution with templates generally, and especially when questioning established editors about edits to their own user pages.  I will assume good faith and chalk this up to an honest mistake, but I advise you to be more prudent in the future.  Coemgenus 15:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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2008 Olympics attack on American nationals (2nd nomination)
I have re-nominated this article for deletion. Please provide your input to the discussion. --Elliskev 17:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

re:edits to infobox at Maine South High School
Greetings Smuckers!

I wanted to stop by with an explanation as to why I reversed some of your edits to the infobox in this article

The infobox, because it is a template, works very oddly at times. This big one has a lot of space for information, but also has some peculiarities that are different as to how you and I would interpret things.

The "mascot" entry is typically used for a named mascot like "Howard the Hawk" or "Donnie the Demon" or something like that. "Nickname" is for the actual "name". This is not something I came up with, rather what I have observed after observing and editing a lot of school articles.

If there is no mascot named, anything in "mascot image" will not show up. Virtually every school article I have seen uses some image of the school crest or some other symbol at the top of the infobox, and an actual photograph at the bottom. When I set up Maine South's I was shooting for a level of uniformity.

I just wanted to given an explanation instead of simply reverting anonymously. LonelyBeacon (talk) 22:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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Doris Willette and James Williams
In case you were wondering why I removed these athletes from the tables, Willette and Williams are actually alternates on their fencing teams, and should not compete or medal unless there is an unexpected injury. Best, --Jh12 (talk) 11:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Calm down, it was a mistake. --Smuckers It has to be good 03:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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List of terrorist incidents, 2008 --> Tripoli
do you have a citation for you toll increase? the current source says 5 but when you moved it to 7 the new source wasn't added? Lihaas (talk) 17:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * But how is this edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2008&diff=243310152&oldid=243265432) terrorist? Does it qualify as, by definition terrorist. Has an extralegal group claimed it? Lihaas (talk) 01:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The spokesman hints in the bbc article that the bomber is related to Al-Qaeda .. Smuckers It has to be good 04:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. otherlleft (talk) 18:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * An Olympic athlete isn't notable? Smuckers It has to be good 18:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

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2008 Philadelphia Phillies season
Please refrain from tagging the statistics section with an update tag. My time is very limited right now, and no one other than me is going to take the time to update it. I am aware that it needs to be updated, and I am planning on taking this article to GA, and perhaps FA eventually, so it will get done. The tag is completely unnecessary and has been removed. KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  12:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's not "completely unnecessary". If you have a section on something like stats that is on a popular page, it should be updated. I removed your "hidden message". I felt as though it was rude and an attack. Please be Civil. We're all trying to make the article improve, but to call someone "insensitive to me working", is out of line and really didn't need to be done. It's not like I said "Killervogel5 should be the one updating the stats!". An established editor like you should know that attacks on someone is uncalled for. Smuckers It has to be good 12:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If you think it should be updated, the best course of action is to update it yourself, not to leave a template demanding that someone else do it. This is, after all, "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."  Coemgenus 13:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * In addition, communicate using my talk page, not edit summaries. If you want to single someone out, there's the best way to do it, and you did. KV5  •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  13:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I did leave a message on your talk page? Also, this is not the first time I think you've attacked me, KV5. On the talk page when I asked "why is no one updating the game log" you were kind of rude. Do you not like me? Smuckers It has to be good 13:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not attacking you, but I do get frustrated with some of your edits. You do a lot of tagging and templating in articles that I work on and it's extremely frustrating to see things that are on my list to do or to finish get marked up by someone else. If you see something that needs to be fixed, fix it. It feels like you'd rather demand for others to do things that work on them yourself. Things like statistical tables take a long time to update, and I know they are a lot of work, but think how much more work it is for one person to do it all the time. It's not a matter of like or dislike. This is Wikipedia, not real life. KV5  •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  14:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

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1982 NCAA Division I Women's Volleyball Tournament
Hi, I was just reviewing your article, and noticed that every time you wrote Hawaii, you wrote Hawai'i. I was just wondering, why? That's not the accepted english name for the state. Please send me a talkback when you answer. -Zeus-u<sub style='position: relative; left: -.55em;'>c 21:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, it was written throughout the University of Hawaii and University of Hawaii at Manoa articles as Hawaii so I thought that was how you should write it when talking about the university...should I take the out? From, Smuckers
 * Ah, you are right. I didn't get that the article was talking about the university.  Apologies. -Zeus-u<sub style='position: relative; left: -.55em;'>c 21:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Its fine [[Image:Smiley.svg|20px]] --Smuckers It has to be good 21:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * Hi, I added it because I read I must have seen it somewhere online, not knowing it (was probably) false. I put it up because I thought it was worth noting. I am sorry I did not put a source. Hope you aren't mad at me. From, --Smuckers It has to be good 16:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No, not mad at all; I did not doubt your good faith and was (and remain) just perplexed (I am sure that I, as you, have seen Phelps and chess associated before&mdash;and not only on a mirror or the ESPN.com bio [the researcher for which got a bit lazy, one supposes]). Thanks, in any case, for your reply. Cheers, Joe 19:28, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * Thank you [[Image:Smiley.svg|130px]] Smuckers It has to be good 03:36, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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Okay, I will work on this. Thanks. Smuckers It has to be good 17:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you!! Fixed. Smuckers It has to be good 00:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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2021 NCAA Womens Volleyball
Hi. I noticed that you made many edits on this year's 2021 NCAA women's volleyball tournament page and I was wondering if I could assist with filling out the bracket section tomorrow night when the field is announced. Thanks. GoWarriors151718 (talk) 10:28, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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Planes
Going to make More edits 2600:1008:B051:65FA:9988:A65C:3499:E793 (talk) 21:52, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of 2022 Longmont mid-air collision for deletion
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Notability of aircraft accidents
Hi Smuckers. I read with interest your request on User:Ahunt’s Talk page. Wikipedia has a Task Force working on all aspects of aircraft accidents and incidents. You may be interested in joining that Task Force - See WikiProject Aviation/Aviation accident task force.

The Task Force has published some guidance information about notability of aircraft accidents and incidents - see Aircraft articles. More generally, the Task Force has published WikiProject Aviation/Aircraft accidents and incidents.

A draft essay on the matter of notability is available at Factors. <i style="color: green;">Dolphin</i> ( t ) 03:20, 8 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Looks good I will look into this. This will help me too. Thanks, Smuckers It has to be good 16:15, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Removal of my category I put
Hey, I saw you undid my edit of the additinal category "Aviation accidents" Could you explain why this was removed? I don't want to undo without knowing if theres a real reason. Enter Demoman (talk) 22:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, it is redundant/repetitive to Aviation accidents and incidents in 2023. If you click on the category you added, there are multiple sub-categories that are sorted by year, country, etc. The category you added has no specific airline crashes under it and is reserved for general articles like hull loss, forced landing, and air rage. Smuckers It has to be good 22:56, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Can I request you make more volleyball bios
I noticed you make a lot of volleyball related articles. Can I request you make some more bios? 38.100.54.99 (talk) 12:35, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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