User talk:Snapdginger

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 * Thank you Paleo Neonate !  It's a lot to learn (including figuring out the ways to quickly edit, cite, link and reference), and I'm working to take it in as fast as I can.  Those links will be very helpful!Snapdginger (talk) 21:26, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Welcome, and nothing is urgent on Wikipedia, as it's always a work in progress, of course. — Paleo  Neonate  – 22:37, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Paleo. I joined Wiki because I thought I could have a lot to offer in my area of expertise, but also because of my training in evaluating medical evidence and studies.

My first foray was into my own area: optometry. Coming up against another editor who staunchly refused to have any type of educated discourse, and made repeated punitive edits to the topic that violated the neutral point of view has soured my view of the process. I don’t know why I thought wiki wouldn’t have issues with ego and bullying, but I did.

Could you give the [vision therapy] page a read and let me know if I’m really way off base here?

If the circular logic and other tactics used in that talk page are really representative of the wiki approach, it would be helpful to know. Snapdginger (talk) 05:22, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

. I realized it doesn’t tag you when I’m on my phone. Snapdginger (talk) 05:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Important message
— Paleo Neonate  – 20:09, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


 * reply:PaleoNeonate I really appreciate this and would like to take you up on the offer of appropriate edits and neutrality.  I'm also struggling with a user who will use a source as reliable when convenient, but refutes them when the same source has a point counter to their narrative.  This is evident on the Vision Therapy Page.  I'm super conscious of not being a SPA (I'd like to be able to contribute more after this), but the inn-accuracy and lack of neutrality is what spurred me on to take the time to learn wiki.

Any chance you could read some of the back and forth? I realize I made a few mistakes initially with editing (I have since learned). Also, I'd like to find a way to ensure users I am not biased just because of my education and profession. Eg: A lot of vision therapy claims are quackery, but many are evidence based and it needs to be a more neutral explanation.Snapdginger (talk) 03:03, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was not aware of this question until just now. I think that so far you've done right to post at article talk pages and suggest sources.  It's unnecessary to personalize or to accuse sources that recall of the mainstream view however (WP:FOC).  For more input about a specific source in a specific context, WP:RSN (where I first noticed you) was also the right place.  As for the message above it's a notice to all editors editing in the area of course (including myself, and the notice is usually renewed every 12 months, unless ds/aware is found at the top of this page acknowledging the previous reception).  — Paleo  Neonate  – 23:39, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you. — Paleo Neonate  – 20:09, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

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-- 21:31, Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi Snapdginger! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Lounge
 * The Teahouse new editor help space
 * Wikipedia Help pages

-- 02:26, Thursday, October 21, 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi Snapdginger! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Lounge
 * The Teahouse new editor help space
 * Wikipedia Help pages

-- 02:43, Thursday, October 21, 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi Snapdginger! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Lounge
 * The Teahouse new editor help space
 * Wikipedia Help pages

-- 02:55, Thursday, October 21, 2021 (UTC)