User talk:Snowball us

Hello Snowball

There is an ongoing discussion on the topic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Europe. Engage in it before you change the article's content. Sir Tanx (talk) 21:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Visa requirements for Turkish citizens, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:55, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Twofortnights. I gave a valid reason to edit the article. It is unreadable as is. There are more "citation required" messages than actual content if it remains in its current form. And, in my opinion, (requests for) citations should be placed in References column to correct this cosmetic issue. By the way, you have undone my correction to IATA database link as well. The current link does not work. I'm only trying to improve the article. Snowball_us 22:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The problem is in many cases the reference only concerns the ordinary passports so the tagging is necessary throughout and not just in the reference column. However this has nothing to do with removing the main maintenance template which you mustn't do. As for the IATA link, I will fix that, however keep in mind that your new reference also didn't link to the right page. As for improving the article, I've went through every single country and updated the article by providing the latest 2014 data for every country in the world and a few dozen territories for ordinary passports - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Visa_requirements_for_Turkish_citizens&oldid=616523786 - it took a lot of time and effort but other editors thought this version with outdated data from 2010 should remain. I respect their decision even though I completely disagree with them. That way you should also respect the request for references or the notice of a factual accuracy issue even if you disagree.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:44, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, the web site of Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Consular Affairs Section lists visa requirements of all countries for Turkish citizens. It even individually lists the visa requirements (visa exempt "vizeden muaf" and visa required "vizeye tabi") and conditions for the four different types of passports Turkey issues: Regular (Umuma Mahsus), Special (Hususi), Service (Hizmet), and Diplomatic (Diplomatik). This web site is already included in the references section of Visa requirements for Turkish citizens. Unfortunately, they do not have an English version of the page. Snowball_us 23:10, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It needs to be verifiable for each country.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:52, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * How much more of a verifiable proof do you need? It is an official government web site. I would say it is more reliable than most other references. This is not a controversial subject where different governments have different views. I do not understand your reasoning. And as far as I can see, the information on the web site is up-to-date. Snowball_us 15:44, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * What I'm saying is that you need to provide inline references. You can't just post a link to some website in the lead and say all the references are there.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)