User talk:Snowbunni

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Steve Irwin
Abandoned? No, I didn't know it had happened. Hmm. Watchlist must be getting too big. At any rate, this clearly needs to be talked through (*again* sigh. . .) Slac speak up! 21:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to Disappearance of Madeleine McCann
I am concerned about your edits to Disappearance of Madeleine McCann. You added material that was not supported by the supplied sources. Then you added a NPOV tag without any talk page discussion. I have reverted these edits as unconstructive. Please ensure that material that you add is in line with sources and if you have NPOV concerns then please raise them on the talk page to see if you can attain consensus. TerriersFan 21:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I am also concerned. You seem to be pushing a POV that seeks to criticise the parents, using very tenuous sources. Everyone, including the McCanns, recognise that they should not have left the children alone. There has been mention of this in the media, and that is reflected in the two articles. The article meets NPOV as it is, and should be left as it is in this respect. Harry was a white dog with black spots 18:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If you don't believe that "the parents of Madeleine McCann have actually acknowledged their 'mistake'" then you have no business editing these articles, as nothing could make it clearer that you have an agenda. Read the articles and the accompanying references. You will find several instances of the parents acknowledging their mistake. "The parents of Madeleine McCann say they feel guilt about not being with her when she was abducted. Kate and Gerry McCann told the BBC 'no-one will ever feel as guilty as we do' after she disappeared from their apartment as they ate dinner nearby." Is that enough of an acknowledgement of guilt for you? How much more do you want these poor people to suffer even as their daughter is missing?


 * As for Thomson, he was not criticising the parents. He was criticising the media for not making more of the fact that the parents contributed to the situation by leaving their children on their own. That of course is a POV, and for you to twist that to say he was criticising the parents is simply wrong. Harry was a white dog with black spots 20:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I'm not the one with the POV, as I have clearly demonstrated by my many edits on these articles which have covered all aspects of the story. Your edits consistently seem to try to paint the parents in the worst possible light. Why? The balance is already there. There is a large, considered section on the criticism of the parents, and the quote by Thomson doesn't add to that. As I said, he is criticising the media for not being more critical, not the parents themselves, as you tried to twist his words. I left the quote on the "reaction" article because it does fit there, even if I think Thomson may take a lot of flack for it. What more proof do you want that I am not pushing a POV?


 * As for the quotes from the McCanns, it is absolutely true that children can be abducted from houses while the parents are in the backyard, or have popped next door. But they have acknowledged their guilt. Of course they try to rationalise it. Who wouldn't. They have to cope somehow. Who are you to judge? Harry was a white dog with black spots 21:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Your further edits to Disappearance of Madeleine McCann
Please stop editing this article based on tenuous sources. The article you quoted on the talk page about your change to the timeline is a) a very old story and b) does not tally with any other source, including the source that remained quoted in the article.

You are clearly looking for anything that can paint the McCanns in a bad light. Why (I ask again)? Please stop editing with a POV. Harry was a white dog with black spots 11:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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re:Disappearance of Madeleine McCann
I have replied on my own page to keep the discussion whole. - Mysekurity 21:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)