User talk:Snowspinner~enwiki/Mess of Xena articles

There are 43 42 37 30 articles on this list in all. The list is at User:Snowspinner/Mess of Xena articles. The articles were all created by User:24.19.6.250, who is a persistant vandal, defacing several mythology articles and replacing their content with stuff about Xena. Some research into these articles has shown that none of the articles are actually about characters on the television show Xena: Warrior Princess. They appear to be characters from an online RPG or from fanfiction. In any case, articles are all stubs, will never become more than stubs, and cause our information about the television show to be heavily corrupted and inaccurate. The whole lot should go. Snowspinner 01:36, 6 May 2004 (UTC) Update: I have just gone through each of these systematically. 13 of the characters were actual Xena characters. The remaining 30 on the list show no signs of being real - some are definitely fanfic characters, some appear entirely figments of the author's imagination. I invite anyone with any doubts on this matter to Google the characters and see what you find - results are either fanfic, non-English, irrelevent, or non-existant in all cases. Snowspinner 03:13, 6 May 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep all, for now. Go through them, correct the facts, then list the ones that *really* need to go on VfD invidually. You've nominated articles on Xena characters that are indeed significant characters in the show itself and should almost certainly stay -- Livia/Eve and Hope (fictional character), at least -- and there are probably others, as well. There's too great a variety here to consider them all at once. - Seth Ilys 01:44, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to remove any that are on legitimate characters if you point me towards them. I'm happy to list these all separately if you like for individual discussion, but I think that if you look at the user's edit history, as well as try doing some research on some of these articles, you'll find very little to keep. I'll look into Hope and Livia/Eve though, and pull them if needed. Snowspinner 01:50, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * I just checked those two out. Although they are Xena characters, the descriptions given are totally inaccurate. Livia/Eve is not the daughter of Ares, as stated in the article, and Hope's daughter is not an unknown Amazon. There may be content in these articles, and if someone wants to go through and pick out all of the accurate content, that would be one thing. But I'd rather not have this junk lying around when someone who's actually interested in productively editing articles on Xena comes along. Snowspinner 01:57, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, and tag them for Pages_needing_attention. Alcarillo 02:45, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * They've been needing attention for some time now. The ideal solution would involve a knowledgeable, dedicated Xena fan, who hasn't shown up yet.  Until then, we're better off with nothing than with all this rubbish.  Delete.   JamesMLane 04:32, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * OK, I've gone through the list and deleted some characters that were real. Happy to continue doing work on this as people point out real ones, but the majority of ones I'm checking do appear false. Snowspinner 02:45, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * A lot of these pages aren't even significant enough to link from the main Xena: Warrior Princess page. I'd keep the ones linking from there and delete the rest. Alternatively, transfer all the pages into a 'Mythos of Xena' page as subsections. -- EuroTom 02:48, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * The problem with merging the content is that you then have to set up the articles as redirects. It would be better to write a completely new page, and delete all those useless stubs. Delete. --Ben Brockert 03:01, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete the unverifiable fanfic articles; keep the rest. -Sean 04:18, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:35, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Is there any sort of rule or threshold for inclusion regarding fanfic characters if they develop enough of an independent following? Not that I'm in any way voting to keep these, just wondering if there is a precedent? Rhymeless 07:01, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * If there's that much nonsense in this set of articles, just delete any that aren't easilly verifiable. Not worth spending lots of time on.  Even if accurate, this stuff is really fansite material anyway, so no big loss if we accidentally delete something factual.  Wikipedia is under no obligation to spend time verifying any load of rubbish that an anon submits. Isomorphic 04:53, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete the fanfic; merge all the sub-minor characters into one article and make the others redirects. I was intending to do this, but was dissuaded by the sheer volume of work. DJ Clayworth 17:12, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete all the fanfic articles, and merge the real ones into a single page. There seems to be a monotonous tone to the fanfic articles especially; they're all Amazon queens who become destructive goddesses.  Some of them, like Valeria, occupy namespace and stand in the way of writing (relatively) important articles about, in this case, the Robert E. Howard character, important in the Conan the Barbarian mythos.  Having these out there might mislead someone into thinking they've already been covered.  Smerdis of Tlön 00:46, 8 May 2004 (UTC)


 * This got de-listed from VfD as per time running out, but doesn't seem to have been deleted itself, nor does any action seem to have been taken on the articles. Is this because it's judged that there was no consensus to delete, or just because none of the admins were up to the admittedly daunting task of going and deleting 30 pages?
 * It's been moved to Votes for deletion/Old as part of the usual VfD cleanup. It's essentially in purgatory. An admin will get to it and do something with it sometime soon. --Ben Brockert 13:59, May 15, 2004 (UTC)