User talk:Sobremeser

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I need help with my first article - 'Kagen Sound'. It's online now, and I believe I've done most things right, but I just need a hand understanding the 'new unreviewed article'/'cleanup' stuff.
 * Those are maintenance tags that point out issues with the article. "New unreviewed article" means just that - the article is new, and we like to have experienced editors take a look at new pages to make sure they're not blatantly inappropriate (say, copyright violations, advertisements, attack pages or just plain nonsense). That review, also known as "new page patrol", hasn't happened yet. The "cleanup" tag was added by yourself; I cannot tell why you added it. If you meant to point out that it's a new page needing to be reviewed, that tag is redundant to the other and could be removed. Huon (talk) 18:38, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I was of the (obviously incorrect) belief that the "cleanup" tag needed adding. I'll remove it now. Thanks for the help! Sobremeser (talk) 22:41, 1 June 2017 (UTC) (I think that's how I'm meant to sign.)

Deletion discussion about Kagen Sound
Hello, Sobremeser,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Kagen Sound should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Kagen Sound.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks,

Domdeparis (talk) 17:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Goldfield & Banks


A tag has been placed on Goldfield & Banks, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for the message. I not only read the text, but I also checked some of the references. Do you have any conflict of interest regarding this topic? If so, you must declare it.

You said but what I don't appreciate is blatant disregard for the hard work of honest Wikipedians, and unwillingness to even discuss one's actions before doing permanent damage.. Both the speedy deletion nominator and I took the view that it met the criteria, and the point of a speedy is that discussion isn't required. However, deletion isn't necessarily permanent, I can restore the text.

Also read the following regarding writing an article:
 * you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation or company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company or organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls


 * I couldn't read all your refs because some required a subscription, but they included the company website, and numerous interviews, press releases and reviews basically quoting Weber. We need independent sources, not the company talking about itself. And how is Gros coup de cœur pour Goldfield & Banks, la toute première ligne de parfums australiens créés, produits et fabriqués à Melbourne. Et on la doit à Dimitri Weber, un franco-belge et australien d'adoption. neutral and factual?


 * The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
 * significant coverage in
 * independent,
 * multiple,
 * reliable,
 * secondary sources.
 * Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.


 * It's difficult to see why even the company that makes it is notable let alone its brands. For all we are told, it could be three people working in a garage. Nothing about number of employees, turnover or profits. We are given no facts to show why the brand itself is notable either, nothing about awards, sales or anything else except for a vague claim that it sells world-wide. Basically, what you have written is a bit of interesting background.


 * You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews. Giving a list of their fragrances contributes nothing to notability but looks a lot like "This is what we sell"
 * There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

The fact that other articles have not been deleted doesn't help you, either they met the criteria or should be deleted as well. See What about article x?. Also note that many articles would have been accepted before the notability guidelines were made stricter. Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. It's not the worse I've seen, and if you want to try again, and can find real facts and better sources, I'll post the deleted text to a draft page for you to improve, just let me know Jimfbleak - talk to me?  15:17, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Goldfield & Banks has been accepted
 Goldfield & Banks, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:38, 24 July 2021 (UTC)