User talk:Sock/Archive 4

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File permission problem with File:Austin Thornton.jpg
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Of Machines
Template:Of Machines has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.  Gongshow  Talk 21:23, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Trout
For making Template:Of Machines, a template with a whopping two articles in it. Oh my, that's just so many articles! Someone could get lost navigating them; let's put a big blue box down there so we don't get lost! WP:NENAN and all that. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * That was so long ago I actually forgot I ever made it. Thank you for that. Yikes, past-version-of-me. -- KЯĀŽΨÇÉV  13  02:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You could propose Template:At The Throne of Judgment for deletion to make up for it. (Before the hammer notices and blows a gasket.) I think it can be speedy deleted if the author proposes it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Jesse Lawson


A tag has been placed on Jesse Lawson requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Orphaned non-free media (File:Loiter Squad.jpg)
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Melissa and Scott on The Walking Dead
You really need to get with the program, no offense. There are links given next to their names on the casts list for a reason. They've both been part of the main cast since Season 3. According to both Melissa McBride and Gale Anne Hurd themselves, being in the opening credits or not means nothing. It's legalese. Thus....please refrain yourself from reverting anything else, as your edits/reverts now will technically count as spamming. Thanks. - User talk:Molcoo (talk) 19:46, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, first off, don't be a dick about this. It's ridiculous, and an unnecessarily aggressive first step. I just read the article about them being main cast, which I hadn't seen before I made the change, so I apologize. Also, how do you decide what's spamming? There's a policy here called the three-revert rule, which hasn't occurred yet. So even if I were to revert, I wouldn't be spamming. Don't say something you don't know about. Regardless, I'm not reverting, glad we got this settled.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  13:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I didn't intend to come off so rude (my first sentence probably sealed the deal in that regard), so you have my apologies for that. Regardless, I still suggest that, in the future, you make a habit out of looking for reference links on pages before reverting particular edits. Thanks. - User talk:Molcoo (talk) 11:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I definitely agree that I was in the wrong, and I'm glad you brought it to my attention. I usually do that, just hadn't thought to in that circumstance (you must admit it's a pretty weird policy on AMC's half). Also, you just pleasantly surprised me. Thank you for apologizing, wasn't expecting it at all. You're all good in my book. I'm happy this went down with (minimal) bloodshed (:  Corvoe  (speak to me)  00:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jesse Lawson


The article Jesse Lawson has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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 * Note: This does not refer to the article you created, which was replaced by a redirect years ago. It refers to a promotional article about a completely different person called Jesse Lawson. It is, in fact, nothing to do with you. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I was a pinch puzzled by that. Thank you.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  23:11, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free media (File:TIAHBMISITIAHLKIAS.jpg)
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You are invited to this admin talk right here. BattleshipMan (talk) 18:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Olympus Has Fallen
Look, I know your reason for doing what your doing. But the names on that poster of that movie are there and that's the reason we should keep them on the infobox. BattleshipMan (talk) 19:20, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * It's an admin's decision at this point. They might make an exception, or they'll stick to policy. As far as policy is concerned, you're wrong. Practically speaking, you're making sense. I'm just...well, not a sysop, so I can't really make that decision.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  19:22, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

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In-character narrators
Robert Downey Jr. should not be credited as a narrator on Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang.

From Template:Infobox film

Note: do not include actors with a role in the film; this is not a place for in-character voiceovers.

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 * That damn template getting me confused with what is policy and just common practice. Thanks for the heads up. I didn't see the previous revert and I honestly forgot I'd done it before.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  23:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Fuck contribution
Thanks very much for your helpful contribution to Fuck (film), much appreciated, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Happy to help. I love that movie.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  19:25, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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actors in plot summary
Hi, can you point me to the guidelines or standards that say the actor names should be removed from the plot summary? -AngusWOOF (talk) 19:46, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You brought up a good point and caused me to dig and look for any policy stating that either is true. As it turns out, the policy IS to use actor names in plot summaries, so feel free to revert any of those edits I've made. However, I've opened a discussion at the WikiProject Film talk page asking for opinions to remove this particular part of the policy. A comment, be it in favour or in opposition, would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  14:55, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm okay with keeping it to headliners (names on posters) and notable cameos announced ahead of time where appropriate. It also depends if the lead paragraph already does a lot of linking; but most usually don't and only list the main star and his/her role in the film. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:48, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Olympus Has Fallen
Hey, there. I do know the plot summary of Olympus Has Fallen needs to be trimmed down and there is clutter to deal with. But there is some things that should left out how the main villain gets killed and such, not to mention the names of the actors who portray the characters, which at times would help some readers avoid confusion on which ones they are. I did leave out some things you deleted, which is why I didn't revert your edit, just set up a new one to bring some things back to it. BattleshipMan (talk) 20:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Info you added to Steve Anderson (director)
Hi there, it looks like you may have added unsourced info to page Steve Anderson (director).
 * Steve Anderson (director)

Do you have reliable secondary sources for the info you added, to back it up so we can make sure it's verifiable and then cite it properly using inline citations? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:52, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Could you please respond to this? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Apologies, didn't see the first message until you posted the second one. I added the Santa Monica thing and his birth year after reading it on IMDb, which I realize in hindsight that I really shouldn't have done. I saw that you removed the age and I've removed the residence. My mistake.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  11:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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Revived interest in the film Infernal Affairs
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The Godfather
Thank you for the "thanks"! — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard &#124; —  18:15, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the edit! If I had read that part, I probably would've tried to change it myself, so I'm glad you were on the ball.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  23:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones  &#124; The Welsh Buzzard:  Cardiff born and bred &#124; — 08:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Pleased to have *met* you!

3:10 to Yuma
I edited a correction to the plot of 3:10 to Yuma which you reverted for having "far too much detail". I added three lines, relating to the pivotal moment of the film, to a 35 line plot summary. I'll defer to your view on what is too much detail because you've been doing this longer than me (although if the plot section was too long before, it definitely remains too long now). The point of this message is that the same error I was trying to fix is still there. Evans wasn't a deserter, and it doesn't say he was anywhere in the film. I explained what the problem was in the talk page and transcribed the relevant piece of dialogue. The plot summary is now incorrect. Instead of getting into a running battle over edits, can you suggest a form of words that isn't too long? Simply "he was shot by his own side" won't do it; but any longer and I am concerned we'll be back where we started. Thanks very much Even better than that (talk) 17:53, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Let me lead by saying you've earned about 20,000 points for handling my revert like this rather than starting an edit war. Veterans of this site seldom do that anymore, so thank you very much. To the point, "far too much" was probably overkill, however, your edit made the plot summary over 700 words, which is against WP:FILMPLOT. I've rewatched the film since reverting your edit, and you're definitely right that calling Dan a deserter was largely due to an incorrect assumption. I'm going to comb the plot for other details I can remove, because at present, the plot is only about 50 words over the limit.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  23:19, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad we're on the same page, and thank you for listening to me! I leave it in your hands. Even better than that (talk) 01:46, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much
Thank you for your research noted at Featured article candidates/Fuck (film)/archive1, much appreciated, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:49, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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November 2013
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 * Apologies for that; my iPhone tends to be inconsistent as to whether or not it puts my edit descriptions through or not, and it obviously didn't in this case. I did have an edit summary, I promise. I removed co-executive producers for a fairly simple reason: I've never seen them listed on any other TV articles. Ever. Granted, I tend to look more at film articles, but even still, it seemed out of place enough for me to think it was warranted to remove them. Also, my reasoning for removing the ubl template around the editor should be pretty self explanatory. Hopefully I've adequately explained and can revert back to the edit I made, if you think it's reasonable.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  04:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I have reverted my own edit since you provided a reason here, so happy editing!   Blurred   Lines   04:17, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for being willing to hear me out. Happy editing to you as well!  Corvoe  (speak to me)  04:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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H. Jon Benjamin

 * The article is called "H. Jon Benjamin", the title of the infobox is "H. Jon Benjamin", it's not necessary to repeat his name in the image caption, we know it's H. Jon Benjamin


 * There is no reliable source for "Henry"


 * A YouTube video of HJB himself denying "Henry" is a reliable source for HJB's own opinion


 * Anyone interested in finding out more about where he was born is going to hit the "Worcestor, Massachusetts" link. It's extremely unlikely that a reader is going to want to know more about Massachusetts itself.


 * Etc, etc, etc

Please stop edit-warring, your edits are not improving the article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:16, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * See virtually any article about living people. Robert Redford, Dwayne Johnson, Jeff Daniels, Kristen Schaal, Chris Hardwick. I pulled all of those names out of my ass, and all of them contain a repetition of their last name.


 * How is the Los Angeles Times not a reliable source? And if it isn't, why is it used to source H. Jon Benjamin as his name when it clearly says "(his first name is Henry)", and LA Times definitely meets WP:RS.


 * Even still, he explicitly said he wouldn't say what the H stands for, so while he may have said it isn't Henry, there's a reliable source that at least thinks it's Henry, so it's worth noting somewhere.


 * This one doesn't make sense. I pipe Worcester, Massachusetts so the link is only one Worcester, then leave Massachusetts and U.S. unlinked. Not seeing this issue here.


 * This was not helpful.


 * I wasn't attempting to edit war, and neither of us violated WP:3RR, so lets not go throwing nasty words now. I don't have an issue with you at all, but we need some kind of resolution to this. You make good points, but I have fair counterpoints as well. What do you suggest we do? We need to compromise somehow.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  10:40, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have said there is no reliable source for "Henry Jon Benjamin" being his birthname. The LAT is indeed reliable for "Henry is his first name", which is not the same thing. There no reason for any pipe whatsoever.  The place is "Worcester, Massachusetts", the link is Worcester, Massachusetts.  Why muddy things up with piping? Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:49, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * It's a force of habit. As a tendency, articles only have the city linked, regardless of the link's inclusion of the state/county/province/whatever the hell. I can leave that alone. However, United States is almost never written out, so I'm going to shorten that back to U.S., and I'm going to re-add "Benjamin" to the front of the photo caption. Also, since it says it's his first name, should we put it in the lede? Like my revision, but without Henry Jon Benjamin in the infobox. I'll wait for you to answer before I make any of these edits, and I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  11:05, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I've made some of those changes. Please do not re-add "Benjamin" to the caption, it's completely redundant, since it's absolutely obvious who the photograph is of - do you have any doubt?   Then why would a reader?  Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:08, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Dujardin, Wolf of Wall Street
Hi Corvoe, you reverted my edit on The Wolf of Wall Street movie. I have seen the film and the Dujardin character is called Saurel throughout and in the end credits. I am also eligible to vote in BAFTA awards (British version of Oscars) and I received my electronic ballot today. When I look in the Acting category, Dujardin is nominated as playing the role of Jean Jaques Saurel. Best wishes Mick gold (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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List of accolades received by Nebraska (film)
Hi. Are you sure the lists "should reflect the titles of their source articles"? I only ask because during the FLC for List of accolades received by Atonement, I was told to remove the disambiguator in the title since there was no reason to disambiguate per WP:PRECISION. Since there is no other article on Wikipedia with a similar title, I don't think the list needs to be disambiguated, despite the source article being so. - JuneGloom    Talk  02:00, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm basis that on a tendency I've seen in article titling. I can't say there's a set policy, so I could definitely be wrong. I was just operating under assumption based on other articles titles. Maybe bring it to WikiProject Film to ask for further advise.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  02:18, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:SDCC13 - Gravity panel (9345233475) cropped.png
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Re: Moving accolade pages
I just left a comment at WT:FILM. Did not see your revert, otherwise I wouldn't have moved American Hustle accolades page yet. But I still think it should be moved. -- Wikipedical (talk) 04:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)