User talk:Sollewitt

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (January 25)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

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Robert McClenon (talk) 18:49, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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As the original reviewer who reported the sockpuppetry, I will comment on the unblock request. I am inclined to believe that these were multiple people sharing an IP address at a workplace, which is consistent with what I (and the blocking administrators) observed. In that case, the issue is not sockpuppetry as such, but undisclosed paid editing, failure to observe attribution rules, amounting to plagiarism and copyright violation, and meatpuppetry. I consider the rules against meatpuppetry to be incomprehensible, but the rules about paid editing and about attribution are very clear. The "red flag" that there was a rule violation was indeed that multiple accounts were trying to publish the David Annesley page at the same time. Any suggestion that they were all trying to do this at the same time without being paid is incredible, unworthy of belief. So the reason why the accounts should be blocked may not be sockpuppetry. It may be undisclosed paid editing.

The requester says that the rules are not very clear for "people who aren't in the community". The community consists of all editors, and four years of editing should be long enough that an editor or group of editors should be expected to know what the rules are, and that paid editing is discouraged but must be disclosed. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:45, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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Hello Robert,

I’m sorry this subject has turned into such an investigation, I was not aware of all the rules set by Wikipedia and never thought I was breaking them in away.

I’m an art student of 22 years old living in Paris, I really truly write these articles because I’m quite a big fan of these galleries and these artists. I wanted to get the David Annesley translation up as fast as I could and a friend of mine told me, I don’t know exactly why, that I should put it on different accounts. I thought that maybe my draft would be more visible to the community. At that time I didn’t know it was against the rules at all and I ended up in this trap that I don’t know how to get out of…

I ask you to please not penalize the galeries and artist pages that already existed, I really didn’t want to harm them in anyway and I’m afraid that it will have big consequences for them and would hate to be the one responsible for all of this.

If ever it is possible, I would really like to learn more about the rules of Wikipedia to not make the same mistakes again.

I remain at your disposal should you like for us to meet or talk. Sollewitt (talk) 14:28, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:12, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

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Hello Robert McClenon,

I have left you a message about a week ago and was wondering if you had received it ? I would really like to be able to fix this and for the artists and galeries not to be punished by my mistake. Thank you


 * This is not my call but that of an administrator. If it were my call I would block your talk page access.  I find your various explanations (not all consistent) to be incredible, that is, not worthy of rational belief by a reasoning H. sapiens.  However, wait for an administrator to make the call.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Sollewitt - The artists and galleries whom you don't want to penalize have not been penalized anyway. The articles about them were deleted, not because you were engaged in sockpuppetry and undisclosed paid editing, although you were, but because they were written purely as advertisements, and were grossly non-neutral.  They would have been deleted if anyone had written them in the language that they were written in.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Penalized? Really? Once again, Wikipedia is not LinkedIn or a promotional venue. Not being included in an encyclopedia should be an expectation for most people. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:51, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

DlohcierekimRobert McClenonAs I have said before I’m not getting paid and neither were the people who wrote the articles before that. I am asking you to please give me a way to be able to publish again for Wikipedia. If there were problems with the articles and you thought these were too promotional could you please show me how so I can understand ? It might be types of phrases that seem to look like advertisement and that I should look out for ? You can take out the phrases that seem incorrect to you, I would like to avoid anything that’s contradictory to the mind of the community.Sollewitt (talk) 16:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC) Dlohcierekim Robert McClenon As I have said before I’m not getting paid and neither were the people who wrote the articles before that. I am asking you to please give me a way to be able to publish again for Wikipedia. If there were problems with the articles and you thought these were too promotional could you please show me how so I can understand ? It might be types of phrases that seem to look like advertisement and that I should look out for ? You can take out the phrases that seem incorrect to you, I would like to avoid anything that’s contradictory to the mind of the community.Sollewitt (talk) 16:16, 14 February 2018 (UTC)