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You deserve this
Tachs, thanks! Much appreciated! Solomon7968 16:18, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Erdos Numbers
You seem to be going around main articles removing low Erdos numbers as non-relevant trivia and then demanding that we source each occurrence as relevant. However, we already do by linking to the Erdos Number wikipedia page, just look under its impact section to see that it is important to the math community. I am not going to get into an edit war with you by reverting your changes again, but I think you should take some time to familiarize yourself with the math community before going on this particular clean up. Good luck --DFRussia (talk) 04:36, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * @DFRussia At least one active math editor (and admin) agrees with my edits. Since it involves many articles I propose you open a new discussion at WT:MATH. I am already familiar with the page(s) you mentioned. Solomon7968 12:25, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Solomon7968 has recently renewed his campaign to remove all mention of Erdős numbers from lots of articles. Many people consider the Erdos number to be significant.  I urge Solomon7968 to slow down, at least until there is more discussion of this sweeping change.  Taking him at his word, I have opened a discussion of the issue at WT:MATH.  I would like to see what other editors think about this.--Toploftical (talk) 19:47, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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The Guardian 100 best novels
I have removed the list from the article. Lists of this type that make value judgements are subject to copyright, and cannot be reproduced here. If creativity has gone into producing a list by selecting which facts are included or in which order they are listed, then reproducing the list may constitute a copyright violation. Sorry, — Diannaa (talk) 21:36, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * , The addition was in accordance with well established previous articles. See The Top 100 Crime Novels of All Time, Le Monde's 100 Books of the Century, The Top 100 Crime Novels of All Time each of which is basically a list of 100 books. What about them? Solomon7968 05:01, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think we should be hosting those lists either. See also Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time, and The Greatest Canadian (which like many other list articles shows only the top ten). I am going to restore it for now as I am going on holiday for a week and will investigate further when I get back. I'll let you know what I find out. — Diannaa (talk) 13:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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Please format as we do a list--one item per line. Paragraph format is good for most articles, but not for lists.  DGG ( talk ) 09:40, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * This list follows the example of a earlier similar ICM speakers list. If you mean putting those in a sortable table format then I disagree of its usefulness as it basically mounts to adding a lot of useless wikicode. The list is already one item per line in its wikicode format. I suggest if you have further concerns you post in the article talk page where others (such as ) can contribute. I apologize for editing your post but please use the preview button more often. Solomon7968 09:55, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The problem isn't wikicode, which can be as long as necessary to get the right appearance. The problem is the readability of the  display. If there is another list done in the same pattern I shall format it according to our normal standards also.  A run-on single paragraph is unreadable for more than 4 or 5 items, and we always use some sort of a list or table--my own preference is a plain list- unless there is some real reason it needs to be sortable. I did hope you'd see this yourself and fix it yourself.  DGG ( talk ) 02:49, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

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 * Jo-Jo Eumerus, This was discussed earlier (with ) in this talk page, see . Solomon7968 16:30, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, but it doesn't seem like the issue was resolved. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:35, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I have no objection with the article getting deleted but that means we should also get rid of similar articles. You added the template to the Crime Novels article but not to the Le Monde article. I propose you do it, it seems a waste of time to continue with this "investigation". Solomon7968 01:28, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I was thinking more of removing the list and perhaps leave the article. Also, which Le Monde article? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:53, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * See the discussion above, Le Monde's 100 Books of the Century. Solomon7968 12:09, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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On the page Satyendra Nath Bose you have reverted my change from "independent" to "sovereign." If you can please explain the nature of dependence the country had, I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

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@Shantnup It is pointless to complain about an edit which occurred 2 years ago, use the talk page instead so that other interested editors can join in. For starters we don't use "Bharat" (a non English term) in the English wiki as I mentioned then in the edit summary. "Independent" vs "sovereign" was only tangentially related to the reversion. Solomon7968 04:04, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

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Something seems to have gone wrong there, this is just word salad... --Randykitty (talk) 13:55, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It was intentional as I lack an (semi-)automatic tool to complete the wiki linking of the article. I did notified (he completed my wiki linking in List of Fellows of the Association for Computing Machinery) minutes after creating the article as I believe at least one of the series would interest him. You do a lot of Journal editing here, don't you; why don't you also try improving this article. FWIW I just started another CUP article which may interest you. Solomon7968 16:15, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sre such a tool exists, I don't have one either in any case. And wikilinks is the least of the problems of this unformatted salad. Did you look at it after you hit "save"? --Randykitty (talk) 17:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That CUP "list" is the same mess of unformatted word salad. In either cases, I'm not even sure that we should have such (somewhat promotional) lists. These articles almost qualify for speedy deletion (as a test page. --Randykitty (talk) 17:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I now also see what you mean about adding wikilinks. What makes you think that even a single one of these book series is notable? --Randykitty (talk) 18:04, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I want all public domain CUP books on Wikisource; All CUP series (let alone books) are probably not notable but when you say even a single one for the World's 2nd largest university press then I think there is something seriously wrong with WP criteria which we need to amend. And for Wiley there are only 47 series and they are comparable to say Springer's Graduate Texts in Mathematics which every math grad student knows about if they want to be taken seriously. If you don't believe me ask someone say DGG or DE. Solomon7968 18:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not enough that "every math grad" knows something, we go by reliable sources. And creating a forest of redlinks, without any idea whether any of those redlinks could conceivably become an article, is not really very helpful. And what happens on Wikisource is irrelevant here (does CU really have "public domain" books?) --Randykitty (talk) 18:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Springer's GTM would be easy to source if someone has MathSciNet access (DE?). I don't know how we can source other disciplines. However deletion is certainly not the way forward. WE have many editors creating articles on Pulitzer winning History books. If they can be notable why can't be the related History series? And yes CUP has public domain books, search Cambridge County Geographies on Wikisource (my creation). Solomon7968 18:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * If a book wins the Pulitzer, then it means that there are sources about the book. And I'm baffled by your Wikisource link. That's a list of links to WP articles. If I click the EL to the CUP website, I see a lists of books that can be bought. I don't see anything PD here. What am I missing? --Randykitty (talk) 19:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Even if a book wins the Pulitzer sources about the book aren't easily available. It might be the case with Fiction, Poetry, Drama, Music I don't know however for the rest three mainly Biography, History and Non-Fiction our Wikipedia articles cover much more information than the Pulitzer prize winning book. Example 1960 United States presidential election is much more informative than The Making of the President, 1960, written by Theodore H. White because it balances White's account with new updated scholarship. And see s:Portal:Cambridge County Geographies (I told you to search Wikisource not just to click the WP link I gave). Solomon7968 19:57, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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Page "Ubiratan D'Ambrosio
Dear Solomon, As I noticed in 'view history' on Ubiratan D'Ambrosio's Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiratan_D%27Ambrosio), you were the first person to create the page. Am I correct? If so, I am here to kindly ask for your help. I have been trying to create a page since last year, for an also very important mathematics Educator, Ole SKovsmose, who was also a friend of D'Ambrosio. But I am having a lot of trouble with this, as you can see in this draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ole_Skovsmose). I made all changes that were suggested, but so far I have not been able to publish de article, as a new comment always arises. So, I ask if you would kindly share with me how you published Ubiratan D'Ambrosio article, so perhaps I can follow in your footsteps. I look forward to have you feedback. Best regards Daniela Bemdani (talk) 19:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * None of the editors who commented in the draft page is an expert on math education. Perhaps you can ask for an expert look on references as I believe SKovsmose to be notable as is the other Kenneth O. May Prize laureates (like Ubiratan D'Ambrosio). Solomon7968 04:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have written short biographies of some mathematics educators, but that doesn't make me an expert on mathematics education. All of my education expertise, such as it is, is in computer science.
 * My suggestion: trim back the parts that don't do anything to convince people of notability: the art, the flowery wording in the biography, the name-dropping, the long list of publications, the edited volumes, and the claims about the significance of his work supported only by citations to his own work. Cut them back hard. He does have highly-cited publications, probably enough for WP:PROF, but it is going to be difficult to persuade a draft reviewer of that because they're not familiar with academics and there is no third-party publication saying that his work is very influential.
 * If you get advice to add more sources and more material, ignore it. It is usually bad advice. What drafts need is usually fewer sources and tighter wording, in order to concentrate only on the sources of the best quality and only on the claims found in those high quality sources.
 * Focus instead on: the 2010 festschrift and what is said by others abovut Skovsmose in it. Publications by others that are blatantly about Skovsmose's work. And published reviews of his authored books. (Both of these second two points of focus can be found through .) If you focus the publication list only on authored books with long bulleted lists of reviews, WP:AUTHOR notability should be clear. If you mention the festschrift somewhere in a section towards the end of the article about recognition for his work, it should tell the story about how he is recognized by his peers. And if you trim all the editorialization from the remaining factual parts about his life and career, keeping them both concise and completely supported by third-party references, with no low-quality references (works by him instead of about him, web pages rather than publications, etc), there will be less motivation for reviewers to say "maybe he's notable but this draft is not ready" and decline it for that reason, and the dryness of those parts will make it harder for reviewers to get distracted by them and easier for them to find the other parts of the article, the festschrift and the publications by others that name-drop him in the title and the book reviews, that contribute more obviously to notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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