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hi. definitely ganarajya and ganatantra menas the same, i.e., republic, but ganatantratmak refers to "Republican" as I have already mentioned. so lets put ganatantra in place of ganarajya or ganatantratmak. also, the foreign ministry has directed all its mission in and outside the country to refer Nepal as Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal in official level. it has also stated that Nepal can be refered to as "Republic of Nepal" as a official short form. though couldn't find the source for it.Razv (talk) 15:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Jewish Socialist Party
Same time and place. According to Henryk Grossman article, he joined the unlinked "Jewish Social Democratic Party of Galicia in 1905". Note that Polish Wiki gives the full name of Poale Zion as Żydowska Socjaldemokratyczna Partia Robotnicza "Poalej Syjon": Jewish Scialdemocratic Workers Party "PS". If it is not the same party, it is some small splinter - there seem to have been a few that split and merged all the time. I wish we had more info; I will see if I can stub Adolf Mosler as my small contribution to that story. I do think, however, that it was Anzelm Mosler, not Adolf (try googling for those two names...). At least Anzelm has a Polish Biographical Dictionary entry (Łopuszański, Bolesław (1977) 'Mosler Anzelm', in Polska Akademia Nauk Instytut Historii (ed.) Polski Sownik Biograficzny volume 22, Wrocław, Zakład Narodowy imienia Ossolińskich, pp. 55-56.). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 22:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Am reading Rick Kuhn's biog of Grossman. They are completely different parties - perhaps Polish wiki is wrong? JSPD/ZSDP was break from social democratic movement, and highly critical of PZ. Am trying to edit relevant pages with material from Kuhn's book. BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As I noted, I am not that familiar with that part of the history. If you have found refs that it was a different party, great.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 14:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

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Can you please remember to put living people in the Living people category, especially if you're including negative statements about the person in their biography? Thanks, Andjam (talk) 11:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

European Parliament groups
We are trying to find consensus on the "leftist issue". Do you prefer "Communists and Far-left Socialists" or "Communists and Far-left"? You can state your preference in talk page. --Checco (talk) 14:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

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Image
Hello Soman! How are you? I have a question: How can I download images from other Wikipedia? I haven't download a single image. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. And, you have created more than 2000 articles. Great job! Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 15:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, Soman, you create articles so fast! Yesterday it was 2500, now it is 2505! I also want to create over 1000 articles. Right now, I have created 137 articles. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Template:ICMLPO (U&S)
I created Template:ICMLPO (U&S). Any improvements are welcome. I think the titles of the organisations are long and awful. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Quality Vs. Quantity
Hello Soman. I know about Quality Vs. Quantity debate. However, without over 2 million articles, Wikipedia will not be that popular. I would like to create 1000 articles someday. I have seen your articles, and many of them are about left-wing parties. Many articles you created are from the Third World countries. Let me tell you something about me: I am not from the west. I really appreciate your contributions. Someday I would like to talk with you in private. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

News
Collaboration of the Month nominations are currently open for WikiProject Political Parties's Collaboration of the month. So far there is one nomination. You can nominate and vote at June's Collaboration page (link). --Megapen (talk) 15:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom of Martinican Communist Party
Hi Soman - there is an issue with this nomination which you may want to address. The hook is not properly cited and most of the references are in French and Russian.  Vishnava talk  15:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I can understand that, but the policy is quite clear on non-English sources and we can't expect readers not to get confused. Maybe another admin/reviewer should take a look, but its clear-cut to me that there is a major problem.  Vishnava talk  18:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I suggest that some of these sources in Google Books and Google Scholar be scouted for alternative citations.  Vishnava talk  23:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Nepal
Still no news on the nominated seats, who will become PM and president, and who will be in government? — Nightstallion 13:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of "Proletarian Union" Committee of the Portuguese Marxist-Leninist Communist Organization (in reorganization)
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Political groups in COR and PACE
I know that you are an expert about political groups in supranational institutions. I would like you to see my posts at Talk:Committee of the Regions and Talk:European Democrats respectively. --Checco (talk) 14:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The Hindu
Hi there, can you include this article in your watchlist. Undue weight is being inserted here by one editor, by using one Freinds of Tibet and Hoot.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 11:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have started a discussion about this in talk. Please participate.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 12:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Queen of Bollywood
Hi. I have revamped the article, and I think it's now a credible stub. Please take another look at the article, and see if your opinion has changed. Best,-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 21:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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Semaun
Hi there, Can you give a source for the Semaun addition? Thanks, Smilo Don (talk) 07:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like you're right. http://www.jstor.org/pss/162895 # Ruth McVey


 * 1) Reviewed work(s): Muslim National Communism in the Soviet Union: A Revolutionary Strategy for the Colonial World by Alexandre A. Bennigsen; S. Enders Wimbush
 * 2) International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 12, No. 2 (Sep., 1980), pp. 219-220  I can't open this article (here in INdonesia) but a Google search offers a tantalizing glimpse.  Smilo Don (talk) 08:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Hkelkar?
Hi Soman. Have you reported the suspected sock? I've had run-ins with HKelkar himself and his socks and if this is another occurrence would like to see it knocked on the head asap. Cheers. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Answer to the question you asked me about democratic socialism and social democracy
Hi, the reason i have been adding Democratic socialism and social democracy in many articles is because ideologically i believe that most parties that define themselves to be democratic Socialist are social democratic as well and vice versa because most socialist parties will try to remove the injustices of capitalism and reform it but not remove it and support a mixed economy, that is social democracy, but also most also support a welfare state and an evolutionary, electoral, democratic path towards Socialism and/or a fairer society which is democratic socialism, in contrast to a revolutionary path. most Centre-left parties wether they define themselves as social democrats or democratic socialists believe in these basic things and also if you look at the two ideologies in depth they are very closely intertwined with each other and it is my belief that both ideologies are so closely related that they should be used synonymously with each other. as for the parties i have added these two ideologies to i have read their policies over and over and have deemed them to adhere to these two idologies and as you know it is difficult to provide a reference that states explicitly that they adhere to these two ideologies so i have had to go by what their policies are and have added social democracy and democratic socialism based on my judgement of their policies.

Gr8opinionater (talk) Tuesday 1st July 2008 at 11:23AM (GMT)

A "new" article for Malik Obama
is sure to be nominated for deletion; so I've actually done so myself here even though I believe it now passes muster due to Maliks multiple press mentions (which had not yet been catalogued when contributors had so very recently weighed in on its "Obongo" iteration. Please be patient with this proposal while those interested weight in again. (I'm notifying those who commented.) — Justmeherenow  06:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Bolshevik Party (North Kurdistan-Turkey) - Terrorist Status
It occurs to me that user talk is a better tool than edit summaries for exchaning opinions. At least for the sake of the details. I note that the Bolshevik Party (North Kurdistan-Turkey) is not a terrorist organization because its historical roots has also given birth to terrorist organisations. Maybe jugding TİİKP (Revolutionary Workers and Peasants Party of Turkey) as terrorist is state POV (and checking my List of illegal political parties in Turkey would demonsrate my sensitivity to avoid that, but not only for Republic of Turkey), however at least one of its splinters, TKP/ML-TİKKO, is a terrorist organization. And Doğu Perinçek admits that (http://www.beepworld.de/members10/c-a-t-i-/ekler2.htm). Furthermore the name suggests to me and probably anyone not associated with communist circles in Turkey that the organisation might be terrorist; because we would expect the denomination North Kurdistan to be used by Kurdish separatists such as PKK. That's why the terrorist status section is relevant to the article. I'll put it there back with some additional explanation. If you still want to revert that go on and do it. You've worked a lot on these issues and therefore your final edit should be respected. Evren Güldoğan (talk) 23:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed that TKP/ML is where Bolshevik Party (North Kurdistan-Turkey) has split from and TİKKO is its armed front (And it's clearly a terrorist organisation.); so the terrorist status section is necessary to clarify that BP (NK-T) is not a terrorist one, at least according to the Turkish state POV. Evren Güldoğan (talk) 23:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Dalit Image
That image was transfered from another Wikipedia article...maybe Untouchables or India...don't quite remember which one. It was the "best" I could find with a limited search. Can you suggest where one might look for a replacement image.--Buster7 (talk) 11:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Adibhatla Kailasam
Hello,

I would like to know more about Adibhatla Kailasam. I see you created the page on Adibhatla Kailasam - please let me know whether I can contact you

thanks

/\ \/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Varun.adibhatla (talk • contribs) 12:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: ASMAA ABDOL-HAMID
The talk of metroexpress isnt gossip and is backed up by other news sources. The case regards a conviction in Denmark, and would - if merely gossip - be tried for injuries. So it is not fair to removed it because of your interpretation of "Gossip". People reading wikipedia is intelligent enough to draw their own conclusion when looking into a matter. Hvemerdetdersladrer (talk) 15:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

All in day's work
Hello Soman. We probably talked after a long gap... I thank you for your message. Regards. --Bhadani (talk) 17:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Use of the word "terrorism"
Hello fellow Wikipedian! I agree that the word terrorism is a pejorative one. That's why I try to use the term "illegal political pary" instead of terrorist organisation as in the article I started titled List of illegal political parties in Turkey. I hope that's a neutral denomination (However let me add that I personally think that organisations such as PKK, TKP/ML and Turkish Hezbollah are terrorist and should be dealt away with force. That understanding of mine might surface in the discussion pages; but if it happens in the articles, by mistake, it should of course be removed.).

Now, WP:TERRORIST states that "In line with the Wikipedia Neutral Point of View policy, the words "Extremist", "Terrorist" and "Freedom fighter" should be avoided unless there is a verifiable citation indicating who is calling a person or group by one of those names in the standard Wikipedia format of "X says Y"." I have added sections titled Terrorist Status to various articles stating, for example, that "The organisation is listed among the 12 active terrorist organisation in Turkey according to Counter-Terrorism and Operations Department of Directorate General for Security...". I believe that "X says Y" format. However in order to be even more sensitive about the use of the term "terrorist" I propose changing the section names to Designation as a Terrorist Organisation as in the article List of designated terrorist organizations. What's your opinion? Evren Güldoğan (talk) 21:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No, thank you for your constructive criticism. I believe it helps improving the articles. I'll change the titles anyway.  And in the human resources sections I'll replace "terrorist files" with "files about people convicted of being a terrorist under Turkish laws" and "terrorists" with "militants", as you have suggested. Indeed I have already done that in PKK and Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front articles. I'll finish the work tomorrow, after getting some sleep.


 * And, yes, the mentioned study gives statistics en bloc. However I think the reason is probably that there are no statistically significant differences between the left-wing organisations covered by the study.  The human resources bases for MLKP should be similar with TKP/ML, MKP and DHKP/C since they all have the same historical roots.  So I thought the available statistics is better than none.  However it you still find it inappropriate please go on and remove that section. I have checked out the history of the article and clearly can see that it's your work which expanded it from a single line to a meaningful contribution.  Best regards.  Evren Güldoğan (talk) 22:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

National Congress Party of Afghanistan
The reason for this revert was because User:WikiPersianHistorian was a sockpuppet of a banned user. It is okay with me if you feel reverting my revert should stand. I just wanted you to know the reasoning behind my revert. Kingturtle (talk) 15:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: JSDS
Good article. I hope I'll be able to expand it when I get some time in the next month. I'm not really sure if the party participated in the 1923 elections, i have to check it out. After 1920, there was quite some confusion in the Socialist camp. Most of the Slovenian social democrats joined the Yugoslav Socialist Party, but later a fraction re-founded the JSDS, which was not particularly successful. Anyway, i'll check it out. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 00:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Harsha
I deleted the article on Harsha Chhina because - as I said - it was incoherent. I couldn't tell if it was an article about a town, about an individual from the town, about an ethnic group from the town, about events that happened in the town...

I'm willing to accept that a perfectly valid article can be written about Harsha Chhina (whoever or whatever that is). But what I deleted was not a valid article. DS (talk) 05:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * im too tired. You'll have it in twelve ohurs, as a subpage of your userpage/ I am typinmg this with my eyes closed. DS (talk) 06:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I took care of it; see User:Soman/Harse Chhina. Regards, El_C 06:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)hat origin of him.

Bikash Bhattacharya
Hi! Added a reference from Times of India for the Kalighat origin of Bikash Bhattacharya. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates
Thank you for the adjustment. I knew that there had to be a way to do this, but didn't know how. Can you point me to the relevant tool or guide for doing this? RolandR (talk) 16:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

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Palestinian Nazis
I understand your concern - however, I think it's usually best to try to edit rather than cutting info. There was indeed a silence/lack of critique of, and at times, expressed support for, Nazi policies under Husayni's rule. This deserves discussion. If you can 'combat' the way it is presented, I urge you to do so. I am not informed about this issue, not enough to balance the section that you rightly identified as one-sided, to say the least. Best,LamaLoLeshLa (talk) 19:01, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Nepal
Thanks, I didn't knew that. It looks the article is already updated. I have left a notice in ITN. Will check if I can contribute anything here. BTW, I appreciate your work on Indian politics related pages a lot. Keep up. -- gp pande  «talk»  13:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

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Re:No confidence vote.
I agree. But lets wait for the news to move to main page. I am sure it will be heavily edited (even vandalized). Once the matter cools down a separate article can be done with, in my view. -- gp pande  «talk»  20:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Outbreak of WW II
The point is that World War II began when the Nazis attacked Poland. The Japanese attack on China is not considered WWII, not the Italian campaign in Ethiopia. Bytwerk (talk) 23:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hard-line Italian communist parties
Do what you want with Italian communist parties but your imposing way of dealing with articles is really inappropriate for Wikipedia. It is our opinion against mine (you consider misleading something which is not in my view), so why is it your that should prevail? Moreover, why do you hammer away at Italian communist parties and not to the other hundreds of articles using "right-wing", "left-wing", "far-right", "far-left", "centre-left" and "centre-right"? --Checco (talk) 16:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I noticed that in Austrian legislative election, 2008 FPÖ is labeled as "far-right". I hope that you'll apply the same rule you applied to Italian communist parties and you will remove "far-right" from the article (I did it once, but Nightstallion, did not agree). --Checco (talk) 16:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on the Austrian case, but I don't understand your views about PRC and PdCI (parties you probably don't know as I do) and I don't like your way of imposing your personal view on that two articles. I won't follow you in any edit war, but I defenitely wont' ask to you before editing those articles. Have you a great summer! --Checco (talk) 10:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * They are, they are and especially PRC will be even more to the far-left since today as Ferrero, the leader of the hard-liners, is poised to win the party congress and to be elected secretary. --Checco (talk) 11:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Chaudhry Akbar Ebrahim
Hi Thanks for clarifying that mixup with Chaudhry Akbar Ebrahim. I had looked on the government page for both Chaudhry and for the minister of forest, but since both the name *and* the ministry were wrong I didn't find it. Any particular reason though why you turned his name around, from "Chaudhary Mohammad Akbar Ibrahim" to "Mohammad Akbar Ibrahim Chaudhary". Cheers, Amalthea (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

somnath article

 * 'summary expulsion' means'sudden', 'without spending time on any discussions using views from both sides' and 'without being given a chance to air one's view before expulsion'..it needs to be mentioned.. i guess you might agree that its far better than the word "ejected"
 * "along with" BJP is the reason why he opposed...who joined who is not the question..cpm and bjp - both had "independent" uncoordinated motives to achieve a "common goal".


 * not incorporated this point so far ..but requesting you to consider this: cpi m included an 'above party considerations' 'constitutional authority (speaker s name)' in a 'Party' list (questioning the non partisan nature of speaker's post) triggering his rigid constitutional stand..so speaker's post being 'non partisan' as obligated by constitution needs mention too..........i shall insert the importance of this point in future edits..Cityvalyu (talk) 00:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

re personal sandbox page: 'Re-write of Buddhism & Christianity
Hi, Soman. I'm most grateful to you for drawing this to my attention. Not sure what's happened here. If you look at my user page you'll maybe see how I thought I had in fact created it as just a personal sandbox page. But sounds like it isn't as simple as that. I suspect the key word the significance of which I'm missing is namespace. It has some important technical significance of which I'm ignorant? Have looked at the fork page you've linked to, but am still none the wiser.

Could you tell me how you came across the page? I certainly didn't create it as part of the article itself, and when I go to the article it doesn't connect to this page. Have now put the User page template on each of my personal pages, but don't know if this"ll suffice to resolve the issue. Would be grateful for your help; because if I've goofed I certainly don't want to repeat the error. Regards Wingspeed (talk) 14:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, right. Thanks again for that. Wingspeed (talk) 14:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

EKP in 1990
While I personally think Termer is being somewhat dogmatic that the EKP splitting from the CSPU is impossible, because it implies the party splitting with itself, I currently don't have any definitive source to back up either side of the argument. Sadly, I'm not really so well versed in the Esotnian case as I am in the Latvian one, which is more my area of specialisation. However, a key person in this context appears to be Enn-Arno Sillari, as in this Time Magazine article from 1990: ; and this one from NYT:. Sillari is also mentioned in Anatol Lieven's Baltic Revolution, p. 278, as the head of the "Estonian rump" EKP. Hope this helps. By the way, there's an interesting article that brings up the issues of the continuity of Estonian Social Democracy in exile in the current issue (39:2 June 2008) of the Journal of Baltic Studies. —Zalktis (talk) 14:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Communist Party of Estonia (1990)
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BIMARU term
The word BIMARU has turned into a derogatory term and is often used in insulting sense. It's better to study these states through their individual pages.

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Redirect of Ali ettehad
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Einat Haran AfD
Yeah, typical. He already removed the tag again. De728631 (talk) 21:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

CCP page
I made an inaccurate description of another's editors unexplained removal of relevant material. I understand that you may wish to protest the use of inaccurate edit summaries, a venture which I would support you in, but I do not understand why you deleted the content.--Asdfg12345 09:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Here is a passage from a book chapter on the subject by Yuezhi Zhao:

''"The massive spread of Falun Gong and its sustained global media activism is no doubt the most dramatic episode in the contestation over media power in the Chinese language symbolic universe. The fastest and most spectacular program of modernization involving the world’s largest population over the past two decades has produced an unprecedented, if contradictory, backlash against modernity. In short, one of the most tightly controlled modern media systems in the world has bred one of the most powerful counter-ideological and communication networks. Compared with the 1989 prodemocracy discourse, Falun Gong’s challenge against the Chinese media system and state power is more profound in its substance, more widespread in its societal reach, more globalized in its structure, and more sustained and militant in its efforts.

"Whereas the challenge against the dominant media system from intellectuals and students in 1989 was predominantly an ideological contestation from within a modernist paradigm (between authoritarian and liberal democratic versions of capitalistic modernity and between capitalistic and socialistic modernity), Falun Gong challenges the dominant meaning system both from without and within."

In terms of critics of the CCP, Falun Gong is one of, if not the most prominent. The CCP also cops enourmous criticism from the majority of western media outlets, and Falun Gong's anti-CCP discourse usually centres on the same liberal democratic themes. I don't know why it would be considered a fringe theory--perhaps there are some high-quality sources that I'm unaware of, which you could cite to support this view?--Asdfg12345 10:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Falun Gong is "critical" of the CCP as a knee-jerk reaction to the ban of the group in 1999. The article "Nine Commentaries on the CCP" is not written by Falun Gong and is neither a part of FLG teachings. It is not taken as a serious criticism of the CCP by any academic source, and the article provides no referencing and sources whatsoever. It's claims are highly exaggerated, and claims that the CCP is "a evil spirit from the west", and "God will destroy the CCP on Judgement Day". Read it for yourself .--PCPP (talk) 15:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Asdfg this isn't a forum to push your personal views on FLG as facts. Considering that you practice FLG, you have a serious conflict of interest. I find it hypocritical for you to label the Nine Commentaries as a reliable source yet sourced statement from Phoenix TV has to be removed because it's boardcasted in mainland China.--PCPP (talk) 15:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * There is a scholar just there explaining the importance of Falun Gong's criticism of the CCP, how is it not relevant? Falun Gong sources are only good for expressing the Falun Gong point of view, of course, whatever we may think of that. But your response doesn't address the issues, and Soman simply hasn't responded, though he has reverted again with a note not to use inaccurate descriptions of vandalism. The disputed content and using an inaccurate description of another user's edit are obviously separate issues. I don't understand that behaviour. It seems like a way to not address the fact that the content has been removed again and the discussion about it is being ignored. This thing is all about sources, and right there I have an excellent source attesting to the value of this material in this context. This may all be shunted to the CCP page, come to think of it. --Asdfg12345 16:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all, this is not the talk page of the article, and not the place to enter into content dispute. Personally, I cannot see how the wordings in the passage PCPP and myself have removed would stand in an encyclopedia. The fact that Falun Gong criticized CPC is mentioned earlier in the passage, and the posting of commentary like "evil cult and "anti-universe force"" doesn't really contribute much. In general, 'criticism' section are a bad idea for articles on political organizations. --Soman (talk) 16:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that the phrasing should be made encyclpaedic - but the sbject is indeed very relevant to the article .. please do see http://ninecommentaries.com . The commentaries are swiftly growing in popularity in china and tens of thouands manage to announce their statements denouncing CCP online each day, despite the internet censorship there. In my opinion something that has had such a huge impact is indeed worthy of inclusion in the article. Particularly when academics such as ownby and zhao have brought attention to the issue.
 * Dilip rajeev (talk) 16:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)